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  • Applebite Media
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2018
    • 406

    #16
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    So you're all for saving the planet so long as it doesn't inconvenience you.
    That is not at all what I was saying.... I was saying with all the packaging that our food comes in, the bag is the least of the problems. And to put that extra expense on the people and not the company isn't right.

    But that is how we work in America... if someone is getting paid, it's ok. Just look at tobacco... a product that kills millions, still being made and sold and they have government protection from lawsuits. So instead of taxing the manufacturer, they tax the person using it. I have been smoking for 40 years.... a pack of cigarettes can cost 100.00 per pack and I would still be smoking. They know this... they make money off this... and they keep making their deadly product.

    Back on track... they can eliminate the plastic bags and just go back to paper like the past before plastic bags. Biodegradable. But they would rather just tax the people into submission.

    And... as mentioned above... fine charge a deposit, not a tax... allow people to return them for their deposit back, like they did with soda bottles. But that will put too much burden on the company so again, they put it on the people.
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    • candyflip
      Carpe Visio
      • Jul 2002
      • 43069

      #17
      No. They banned the plastic bags all together, as of two weeks ago. Stores can run through their supply, but that's it. They can't buy more.

      Meanwhile, everything I bought at the store comes in plastic packaging or plastic wrapping of some sort.

      Lot of fucking good a plastic bag ban does. We're back to paper, which were so bad we moved to plastic in the first place.

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      • ErectMedia
        Confirmed Chicago Pimp
        • Aug 2004
        • 7100

        #18
        Chicago has had a bag tax for a while now.

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #19
          Originally posted by Applebite Media
          That is not at all what I was saying.... I was saying with all the packaging that our food comes in, the bag is the least of the problems. And to put that extra expense on the people and not the company isn't right.

          But that is how we work in America... if someone is getting paid, it's ok. Just look at tobacco... a product that kills millions, still being made and sold and they have government protection from lawsuits. So instead of taxing the manufacturer, they tax the person using it. I have been smoking for 40 years.... a pack of cigarettes can cost 100.00 per pack and I would still be smoking. They know this... they make money off this... and they keep making their deadly product.

          Back on track... they can eliminate the plastic bags and just go back to paper like the past before plastic bags. Biodegradable. But they would rather just tax the people into submission.

          And... as mentioned above... fine charge a deposit, not a tax... allow people to return them for their deposit back, like they did with soda bottles. But that will put too much burden on the company so again, they put it on the people.
          Any charge to the company is going to get passed onto the consumer.

          The tax on cigarettes is to pay the cost of looking after the people who get ill from smoking. Which you admit does happen but won't stop smoking. No one forces them to smoke they just don't have the will power to quit. Like the tax on fizzy sugar-laden drinks and foods that are causing an epidemic in obesity, no one forces them to get fat they just have to pay the cost of looking after them.

          I agree they can go back to paper bags and the extra cost will be passed onto the consumer or did you imagine they use plastic because it's more expensive?

          Companies went from glass bottles to plastic to keep the costs down, which was passed onto the customers. So you will pay more for glass and bear the extra cost and deposit.



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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #20
            We carry bags in the back of the car for when we go shopping. I carry a bag to keep my water, wallet, sunglasses, keys, tissues in. And a small collapsable bag. It's not much if you want to cut down on polluting the Earth.



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            • Vendzilla
              Biker Gnome
              • Mar 2004
              • 23200

              #21
              They replaced the thin plastic bags for free with thick plastic bags that cost 10 cents and this is suppose to be good for the environment, I call bullshit!
              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
              think about that

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              • Applebite Media
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2018
                • 406

                #22
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                Any charge to the company is going to get passed onto the consumer.

                The tax on cigarettes is to pay the cost of looking after the people who get ill from smoking. Which you admit does happen but won't stop smoking. No one forces them to smoke they just don't have the will power to quit. Like the tax on fizzy sugar-laden drinks and foods that are causing an epidemic in obesity, no one forces them to get fat they just have to pay the cost of looking after them.

                I agree they can go back to paper bags and the extra cost will be passed onto the consumer or did you imagine they use plastic because it's more expensive?

                Companies went from glass bottles to plastic to keep the costs down, which was passed onto the customers. So you will pay more for glass and bear the extra cost and deposit.
                Here I do agree that everything will get past down to the customer... I will disagree about the cigarette tax.

                When they first implemented the tobacco tax here in in MN, they were advertising how smokers were costing taxpayers hundreds + a year... However, once the law passed, 30million of public tax money raised from the tobacco tax went to help pay for the new Vikings stadium. Public funds being use to help a "for profit" company! The owners did not want to pick up the tab. Gotta love that right?

                As a smoker, I should have at the very least, received a free ticket to a game. But received nothing. Not even health care that my tax dollars are suppose to be paying for.

                To me this is just another way the little guy gets shit on by our government.
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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  They replaced the thin plastic bags for free with thick plastic bags that cost 10 cents and this is suppose to be good for the environment, I call bullshit!
                  You're supposed to use the thicker bags more than once.

                  It's thinking like that that will doom the planet.



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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Applebite Media
                    Here I do agree that everything will get past down to the customer... I will disagree about the cigarette tax.

                    When they first implemented the tobacco tax here in in MN, they were advertising how smokers were costing taxpayers hundreds + a year... However, once the law passed, 30million of public tax money raised from the tobacco tax went to help pay for the new Vikings stadium. Public funds being use to help a "for profit" company! The owners did not want to pick up the tab. Gotta love that right?

                    As a smoker, I should have at the very least, received a free ticket to a game. But received nothing. Not even health care that my tax dollars are suppose to be paying for.

                    To me this is just another way the little guy gets shit on by our government.
                    I doubt if they announced it like that. More like they spent $30 million on funding a stadium and it came from public funds. But if you vote for corrupt officials you get corrupt officials.



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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #25
                      Originally posted by sarettah
                      We have cloth bags that we use for most of our shopping.

                      I was in a supermarket today, one I am not usually in, and when I was checking out they gave me a sack refund of a nickel for each bag we had with us. We had 8 or 10 bags, we only used 2 of them at that store but they gave us 50 cents or so as a sack refund. First time I ever encountered that.



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                      Ralph's does that; also, CA banned single use bags, so they just made the plastic bags thicker so they are not considered "single use."

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                      • candyflip
                        Carpe Visio
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 43069

                        #26
                        Originally posted by candyflip
                        No. They banned the plastic bags all together, as of two weeks ago. Stores can run through their supply, but that's it. They can't buy more.

                        Meanwhile, everything I bought at the store comes in plastic packaging or plastic wrapping of some sort.

                        Lot of fucking good a plastic bag ban does. We're back to paper, which were so bad we moved to plastic in the first place.
                        This just in...NYS Ban on plastic bags has been pushed back due to covid19.

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                        • digitalfantasies
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 2759

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                          They replaced the thin plastic bags for free with thick plastic bags that cost 10 cents and this is suppose to be good for the environment, I call bullshit!
                          Well you call wrong

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