I am not a designer crook! - GoFuckYourself.com

Ironhorse · 05-05-2003, 01:39 AM

Public message and apology from SexyMojo/Ironhorse in regards to my recent absence:
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I am not a crook!

I am very sorry for the severe inconvenience my recent absence caused all involved parties/clients. In particular to SGS and the Iclicks guys which have either put down deposits or were in the middle of negotiations for new projects, I want to say 'I am really, really sorry!'

My father fell into a coma late in March and was on life support for some weeks before ultimately passing away. While death fell on my family and bombs were raining in Iraq, my sister had a car accident and totalled her car and my brother in law ended up in the emergency room for a minor heart attack. It literally became a pilgrimage to various hospitals and if you think CNN Baghdad reports were surreal try watching them in various hospital waiting rooms. The decision to terminate my father's life fell on me , it's not a decision I wish on anyone that loves their father like I do. Somewhere along the line I wallowed long enough to also miss my bills which terminated my internet connection and created some other hassles.

I feel like shit for making my clients wait. Somewhere in the back of my mind I remembered letting all client liaisons know that my dad was in a coma and I kept justifying further delay. Hours turned to days, to weeks

Severe family drama falls on everyone from time to time and this time it was me again. Do I want the client to pay for this? No. I would offer a refund on any deposit if I had the funds, but all this drama did have a negative financial effect on me and my survival largely depends on future work. I can offer payments on an installment plan that we can work out, and I was prepared to offer completion of the project(s) at no additional charge but I sense at least with one client, we may have crossed the threshold of returning and resuming their project. Understandably so.

I have spent the last couple of weeks working up the nerve to write this letter, because it's not the way I thought the month of May would go for me. I am also seeking professional help to get me through this rough spot in my life.

Thanks to all the friends who came out to my defense, it's refreshing to know your peers are there when you really need them, even some you've never met before. I know that in a business sense there is no excuse for my action, and I intend this as an honest apology and explanation and hopefully it will not be taken as an excuse.

All affected parties please email me at [email protected] I have hundreds of emails waiting but I will get to yours first. Let me know what I can do to work things out.

Anyone else that messaged me in the last month I will try to get back to you as soon as possible.

lEricPl · 05-05-2003, 01:43 AM

Although I'm not a client, if my father passed away it would probably do the same to me.

Goodluck in getting through everything and getting back on your feet.

xenigo · 05-05-2003, 03:19 AM

Sorry about your loss Ironhorse, it's very sad. It must be tough losing your father. I wish you luck with everything.

funkmaster · 05-05-2003, 03:58 AM

... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web.

... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

Ironhorse · 05-05-2003, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web.

... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

You're kidding me, you think I would lie about this, you are one sick fuck. here's your proof http://www.tibvastag.com/dad/

Why would I lie about this and then refund his money?? Do you ever use reason in your life?

d0se · 05-05-2003, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web.

... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

asshole

stocktrader23 · 05-05-2003, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web.

... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

jackass

funkmaster · 05-05-2003, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse

You're kidding me, you think I would lie about this, you are one sick fuck. here's your proof http://www.tibvastag.com/dad/

Why would I lie about this and then refund his money?? Do you ever use reason in your life?

... I never said that you are lying, I am just trying to warn other designers:

if you don´t wanna risk getting deported by aliens or have your cat exploded, don´t ever take on any of our design jobs ... I am dead serious.

d0se · 05-05-2003, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... I never said that you are lying, I am just trying to warn other designers:

if you don´t wanna risk getting deported by aliens or have your cat exploded, don´t ever take on any of our design jobs ... I am dead serious.

shut up already fuckmaster.

stocktrader23 · 05-05-2003, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... I never said that you are lying, I am just trying to warn other designers:

if you don´t wanna risk getting deported by aliens or have your cat exploded, don´t ever take on any of our design jobs ... I am dead serious.

shut up already cog knocker.

ServerGenius · 05-05-2003, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web.

... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

Not a very smart response to this matter. The reason why this
happens a lot is a very simple one. Most designers/coders are 1
man operations. So in case something happens their whole
business is down as there are no employees that keep working
and take over pending jobs of the affected individual.

I wish you and your family all the best and strength in this difficult
time make sure you take enough time for your grieve and support
other members of your family as they surely need you.

Post your paypal addy here in this thread apart from a bunch
of assholes there are enough good people here that understand
your situation and are willing to add a little to pull you through
this period. Even if it's just for future work. Eventually you will
need this so fuck the whole pride thing and make sure you don't
end up in more problems than you already have right now.

Again man, all the best and if you need anything never be too shy
to ask. Many people have been in similar situations and know
exactly what it is like to be in a situation like you are in now.

DynaMite

Theo · 05-05-2003, 05:10 AM

Ironhorse, sorry for your father's loss. That's one of the saddest things it can happen.

Family MUST be priority to anyone. Nothing should come even close to it.

Stalinrocks · 05-05-2003, 03:01 PM

Sorry man

Raven · 05-05-2003, 03:06 PM

Ironhorse....words are usually so inadequate at a time like this....

My condolences.

Sly_RJ · 05-05-2003, 03:11 PM

Good luck Ironhorse, you'll pull through this. Don't forget to breathe...

SGS · 05-09-2003, 01:10 PM

Just want to let everyone know that the matter has now been fully resolved and I want to offer Tib my condolences and wish him all the best for the future.

grumpy · 05-09-2003, 01:38 PM

Sup Ironhorse...and shame on funkmaster..real lame

Trolleater · 05-09-2003, 01:49 PM

Sorry to hear about your loss.

Just another note: I've been abducted by aliens at least 3 times in the past, though I never gave that as the excuse for not getting the work done...thought it might make me sound a little loopy. :P

flashfreak · 05-09-2003, 02:24 PM

sad to read this... my condolences...

Ironhorse · 05-09-2003, 03:05 PM

Thanks guys for the well-wishes.

I have refunded one client's money and I am doing some extra work to make it up to another, so hopefully I can put this thing behind me now and move on.

nuclei · 05-09-2003, 03:18 PM

Our condolences Ironhorse.
Thats a terrible thing to have to go thru.

Good luck!

05-05-2003, 01:39 AM	#1
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	I am not a designer crook! Public message and apology from SexyMojo/Ironhorse in regards to my recent absence: -------------------------------------------------------- I am not a crook! I am very sorry for the severe inconvenience my recent absence caused all involved parties/clients. In particular to SGS and the Iclicks guys which have either put down deposits or were in the middle of negotiations for new projects, I want to say 'I am really, really sorry!' My father fell into a coma late in March and was on life support for some weeks before ultimately passing away. While death fell on my family and bombs were raining in Iraq, my sister had a car accident and totalled her car and my brother in law ended up in the emergency room for a minor heart attack. It literally became a pilgrimage to various hospitals and if you think CNN Baghdad reports were surreal try watching them in various hospital waiting rooms. The decision to terminate my father's life fell on me , it's not a decision I wish on anyone that loves their father like I do. Somewhere along the line I wallowed long enough to also miss my bills which terminated my internet connection and created some other hassles. I feel like shit for making my clients wait. Somewhere in the back of my mind I remembered letting all client liaisons know that my dad was in a coma and I kept justifying further delay. Hours turned to days, to weeks Severe family drama falls on everyone from time to time and this time it was me again. Do I want the client to pay for this? No. I would offer a refund on any deposit if I had the funds, but all this drama did have a negative financial effect on me and my survival largely depends on future work. I can offer payments on an installment plan that we can work out, and I was prepared to offer completion of the project(s) at no additional charge but I sense at least with one client, we may have crossed the threshold of returning and resuming their project. Understandably so. I have spent the last couple of weeks working up the nerve to write this letter, because it's not the way I thought the month of May would go for me. I am also seeking professional help to get me through this rough spot in my life. Thanks to all the friends who came out to my defense, it's refreshing to know your peers are there when you really need them, even some you've never met before. I know that in a business sense there is no excuse for my action, and I intend this as an honest apology and explanation and hopefully it will not be taken as an excuse. All affected parties please email me at [email protected] I have hundreds of emails waiting but I will get to yours first. Let me know what I can do to work things out. Anyone else that messaged me in the last month I will try to get back to you as soon as possible. __________________ [email protected]

05-05-2003, 03:06 PM	#14
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	Ironhorse....words are usually so inadequate at a time like this.... My condolences. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

05-05-2003, 03:11 PM	#15
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Good luck Ironhorse, you'll pull through this. Don't forget to breathe... __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

05-09-2003, 01:10 PM	#16
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Just want to let everyone know that the matter has now been fully resolved and I want to offer Tib my condolences and wish him all the best for the future. __________________ See sig...

05-09-2003, 01:38 PM	#17
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	Sup Ironhorse...and shame on funkmaster..real lame __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

05-05-2003, 01:43 AM	#2
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	Although I'm not a client, if my father passed away it would probably do the same to me. Goodluck in getting through everything and getting back on your feet.

05-05-2003, 03:19 AM	#3
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Sorry about your loss Ironhorse, it's very sad. It must be tough losing your father. I wish you luck with everything.

05-05-2003, 03:58 AM	#4
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... this story may be true or not, what makes it really suspicious is that similar stuff happened to almost every designer we approached via the web. ... dead fathers/cancer/killed dogs/house burnt down/car exploded/kidnaped by aliens ... you name it !

05-05-2003, 05:10 AM	#12
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Ironhorse, sorry for your father's loss. That's one of the saddest things it can happen. Family MUST be priority to anyone. Nothing should come even close to it.

05-05-2003, 03:01 PM	#13
Stalinrocks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 91	Sorry man

05-09-2003, 01:49 PM	#18
Trolleater Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,441	Sorry to hear about your loss. Just another note: I've been abducted by aliens at least 3 times in the past, though I never gave that as the excuse for not getting the work done...thought it might make me sound a little loopy. :P

05-09-2003, 02:24 PM	#19
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	sad to read this... my condolences... __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

05-09-2003, 03:05 PM	#20
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	Thanks guys for the well-wishes. I have refunded one client's money and I am doing some extra work to make it up to another, so hopefully I can put this thing behind me now and move on. __________________ [email protected]

05-09-2003, 03:18 PM	#21
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	Our condolences Ironhorse. Thats a terrible thing to have to go thru. Good luck! __________________ The next generation of SEO