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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #1

    what do you guys think of a flat tax?

    say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?
  • sarettah
    see you later, I'm gone
    • Oct 2002
    • 14293

    #2
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    Sounds like discrimination to me

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    • CurrentlySober
      Too lazy to wipe my ass
      • Aug 2002
      • 38940

      #3
      My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

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      • TampaToker
        Confirmed User
        • May 2006
        • 5828

        #4
        I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.
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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #5
          Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

          What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.



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          • Grapesoda
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2003
            • 46238

            #6
            Originally posted by TampaToker
            I just did my wife's taxes she brought in 102k last year as a rn. Her tax rate was 8.75% after current standard deductions. Some how she is getting a refund of $3900. So anyone making under 102k a year a tax of 18% would be a increase. Even if you add ssi and disability i would assume her tax rate would be under 18% but i would have to do the math to verify.
            with this table below you still need to add SSI, Disability and State. at least if I remember correctly, and this is on the net. not the gross. with a flat tax there are no deductions. just a straight %

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            • Grapesoda
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2003
              • 46238

              #7
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              Paying taxes is part of living in a modern, civilised country. Do you want social healthcare, education, unemployment, pensions, road, fire services, police, military, etc and all the things that go along with keeping you safe and secure?

              What's wrong is giant corporation getting away with paying little, then exporting jobs, paying minimum wage, low skilled immigrants keeping down wage, etc.

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              • Shoplifter
                Richest man in Babylon
                • Jan 2002
                • 5844

                #8
                Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.

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                • artwilliams
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                  • Aug 2004
                  • 252

                  #9
                  Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?
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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94727

                    #10
                    Originally posted by artwilliams
                    Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?
                    . . .

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                    • Busty2
                      Member since 1999
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7202

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                      My heart missed a beat when I thought you said 'Fat Tax'...

                      I would have been COMPLETELY fucked !
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                      • fuzebox
                        making it rain
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 22351

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                        Flat taxes and consumption taxes are generally unfair. That 18% is a far greater portion of a working person's wealth than that of a billionaire etc.
                        I prefer it versus someone arbitrarily deciding how much income is "too much" and needs to be taxed higher (fair share???)... At least america is capped at 37%, many other countries that number just keeps climbing.

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                        • slapass
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 14625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                          say 18%, with no tax for the first 30K per year FOR EVERYBODY. I haven't been able to find out if that covers everything or just fed, still need to pay disability, SSI? State? I was paying a total of about 54% so it seem like a good deal but what is hidden? any thoughts? any information?
                          The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

                          The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?

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                          • Grapesoda
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 46238

                            #14
                            Originally posted by artwilliams
                            Shouldn't this be in the Politics area?
                            nope the political area is not for discussion, only there to slander trump

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                            • Grapesoda
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 46238

                              #15
                              Originally posted by slapass
                              The issues with our tax system is more of what is income. No deductions? That would be great, but obviously businesses get to deduct costs etc and we are right back into the mess.

                              The other sides we need to pay taxes so the take has to be the same. Who is going to pay more is the question?
                              it's a mess but some how they always figure it to money the political. the 3 richest counties in American are around Washington DC, an area with no industry except politics

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                Do you want to pay less tax and higher debt? Or see the private sector take over more or just do away with things that go to make a modern civilised country?

                                Will your flat rate of tax raise what the country needs?

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                                • k0nr4d
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                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 9231

                                  #17
                                  Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd
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                                  • amcic1998
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                                    • Jan 2020
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                                    #18
                                    If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes
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                                    • Paul Markham
                                      Too old to care
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 52942

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by amcic1998
                                      If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes



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                                      • Grapesoda
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 46238

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                        Poland has flat 19% income tax but the standard deduction is a joke at like $700-800usd
                                        what about SSI and disability and 'state' taxes? the last year I made big bucks I paid 53%

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                                        • Grapesoda
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 46238

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by amcic1998
                                          If you are looking to pays less tax i invite you to travel to live in Africa or Asia, most of thier contry don`t pay taxes
                                          don't care for Asia as a place to live, as far as Africa... we already left once

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