New to the Forum - Any one know of a good DRM software for adult content

[XclusiveG]

I don’t want to be another only fans, you’ve got people on there with fake accounts making $1000 a week of photos and vids theyve stolen off porn sites. I’m not cash hungry, this site as shallow as it is will only feature the best guys, girls, trans.etc. But at the same time, making it a community based site, where everyone interacts, that’s why it’s called Xclusive

[k0nr4d]

And just to answer @kOnrAd

Hollywood movies don’t watermark their films, they don’t have so much information on a person every time that individual watches a movie. I do. Surely that makes a difference?

But what information do you have? What if someone buys an account with a stolen card, and uses a VPN? What will you watermark to locate this person?

Also hollywood does watermark movies. They watermark workprints, review copies, etc uniquely.

[XclusiveG]

@Konr4d you cannot sign up with a stolen credit card or with an IP address that does not match the residents address. As I stated Signifyd.com guarantee 100% security in any fraudulent transactions. They use a benchmark test if it doesn’t match up, they won’t get through. If it means putting off subscribers, so be it, security and performer security along with a subscriber who knows they are getting unique content not on other sites will ensure the right people are using the fans. And they will become part of a Xclusive club. I have 20 years of experience in membership websites, so I kinda know what I’m doing, but I am literally trying every possible measure I can to get rid of the shitty accounts on onlyfans, my site is for the most talented individuals of which many I already know.

[iceboi]

Sounds like alot of effort is being put into this. There are guys who get their hard on from ripping the unrippable. If Netflix , Apple, Amazon and Disney failed to stop ripping, I doubt you'd be able to but I must admit that you've piqued my interest. Widevine is the DRM that the big boys use but this has been bypassed because all their content has been pirated.

Good luck and be sure to announce the platform here when it's launched.

[k0nr4d]

@Konr4d you cannot sign up with a stolen credit card or with an IP address that does not match the residents address. As I stated Signifyd.com guarantee 100% security in any fraudulent transactions. They use a benchmark test if it doesn’t match up, they won’t get through. If it means putting off subscribers, so be it, security and performer security along with a subscriber who knows they are getting unique content not on other sites will ensure the right people are using the fans. And they will become part of a Xclusive club. I have 20 years of experience in membership websites, so I kinda know what I’m doing, but I am literally trying every possible measure I can to get rid of the shitty accounts on onlyfans, my site is for the most talented individuals of which many I already know.

If I seem like I'm coming off as being difficult or something, I apologize - that's not my intention - but...

I've been developing adult sites for 17 years as a programmer - I know what i'm doing and I know alot about this stuff from the technical point of view. A freshly stolen card will go through, because it is no different then you sitting next to me here, handing me your credit card and me entering your card details, or me handing you my credit card and you entering my details. Another scenario - lets say a user signs up with their card, rips your site not giving a shit about the watermarks and then reports their own card stolen when they get the bill? It's not like chargebacks on legit purchases are unheard of in this business either and if you try to litigate against this person the burden of proof is on you to prove they did it, not vice versa.

I'm sure that service helps, but there is no way they are blocking 100% of fraud. It cannot be based solely on ip address matching resident address because ip geolocation is not that exact. Right now my IP geolocates to another city 20km away. If I had a card from Berlin and hooked up to a VPN in Berlin, then my IP would match. If that made a big difference in the fraud score they give that transaction, the only people that could buy from you would be those living in huge cities. Their 100% guarantee is probably backed by the fact that they will cover your losses if something does get through - because what else can they really do in such a situation?

What it boils down to is that - yes - you will make it harder for joe surfer to download your content. However, the real content stealers, the "release groups" that rip entire sites and post them to torrent tracker will make very quick work of whatever DRM you are using, or will rip your site not care about watermarks.

I would be more then happy to check out your system once you have it up and see if I can bypass it.

[sarettah]

with an IP address that does not match the residents address.

So, someone using mobile away from home, or a laptop at a hotel would not be able to sign up?

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[Klen]

If I seem like I'm coming off as being difficult or something, I apologize - that's not my intention - but...

I've been developing adult sites for 17 years as a programmer - I know what i'm doing and I know alot about this stuff from the technical point of view. A freshly stolen card will go through, because it is no different then you sitting next to me here, handing me your credit card and me entering your card details, or me handing you my credit card and you entering my details. Another scenario - lets say a user signs up with their card, rips your site not giving a shit about the watermarks and then reports their own card stolen when they get the bill? It's not like chargebacks on legit purchases are unheard of in this business either and if you try to litigate against this person the burden of proof is on you to prove they did it, not vice versa.

I'm sure that service helps, but there is no way they are blocking 100% of fraud. It cannot be based solely on ip address matching resident address because ip geolocation is not that exact. Right now my IP geolocates to another city 20km away. If I had a card from Berlin and hooked up to a VPN in Berlin, then my IP would match. If that made a big difference in the fraud score they give that transaction, the only people that could buy from you would be those living in huge cities. Their 100% guarantee is probably backed by the fact that they will cover your losses if something does get through - because what else can they really do in such a situation?

What it boils down to is that - yes - you will make it harder for joe surfer to download your content. However, the real content stealers, the "release groups" that rip entire sites and post them to torrent tracker will make very quick work of whatever DRM you are using, or will rip your site not care about watermarks.

I would be more then happy to check out your system once you have it up and see if I can bypass it.

I can add how exact ip location depend does ISP send such data or not - sometime it shows always ISP business address or division adress, and sometime exact address of user. Tho, since we slowly moving to mobile connections and classic DSL connection might become obsolete in future, then it will be totally impossible to see where is user located. This can be compared to hosting IP whois, where usually ip whois always show hosting as owner, but it can be changed to actual current user.

[Grapesoda]

Hey Guys

So after 6 months of hard grafting I’m almost ready to release an onlyfans kinda site, but with a hell of a lot more. I’ve spent a lot of time creating software through the site that disables any type of screen recording, downloading and screenshooting, the second it happens, the video is disabled and a notice embedded in the video is triggered, a unique ID of the person is already watermarked as a deterrent. anyway so my question is, are there any developers out there that could help me further with this?

Cheers

the El Dorado of the adult biz

[Grapesoda]

I can add how exact ip location depend does ISP send such data or not - sometime it shows always ISP business address or division adress, and sometime exact address of user. Tho, since we slowly moving to mobile connections and classic DSL connection might become obsolete in future, then it will be totally impossible to see where is user located. This can be compared to hosting IP whois, where usually ip whois always show hosting as owner, but it can be changed to actual current user.

I was told the offending 'download memberships' were purchased in the Ukraine with fake CC's. seems like 'user' lawsuits dried up and went nowhere

[ZENRA]

@Konr4d you cannot sign up with a stolen credit card or with an IP address that does not match the residents address. As I stated Signifyd.com guarantee 100% security in any fraudulent transactions. They use a benchmark test if it doesn’t match up, they won’t get through. If it means putting off subscribers, so be it, security and performer security along with a subscriber who knows they are getting unique content not on other sites will ensure the right people are using the fans. And they will become part of a Xclusive club. I have 20 years of experience in membership websites, so I kinda know what I’m doing, but I am literally trying every possible measure I can to get rid of the shitty accounts on onlyfans, my site is for the most talented individuals of which many I already know.

Only allowing residential IP addresses in may cost you a decent % of sales. We get many subscribers from developing nations who use VPN's due to ISP blocks (and these are legit users with credit cards issued in their home countries and local billing addresses as well). Do you really want to block the many Middle Eastern and South Asian users (yes, many do have CC's now) from accessing your site? That may happen if you block non-residential IP's.

It's commendable that you're going the extra mile to prevent bad actors from gaining access, but you also may be shoehorning yourself into believing all your subscribers are criminals until proven otherwise. Reality is nearly all are good people who just access the site for their own modest needs. Please keep that in mind when working on your own solutions.

[XclusiveG]

I totally understand and appreciate the responses. I have applied for trademarks in countries with in the EU, America’s and Australia. But am prohibiting Some countries yes. Have you used Signifyd? They tracked and stopped every single transaction that proved to be fradulent after it was first accepted by other payment processors first. I’m working with Hackerone-com who use hackers to actual find any vulnerabilities. And I noticed this website steamingvideoprovider(.)com I was able to use a screen recorder right away so their system is useless!

[Konda]

Spending all that time and money to try to fight piracy is 100% useless. You should put that money instead in making a better product for the paying users and marketing/branding.

The solutions described will only be annoying to regular users, and will not stop the pirates.

You have to realize the pirates and the people that visit pirate content sites will not pay for your content anyway, so you are just wasting your time and making a site that is more annoying than it should be.

Like others have said, if Hollywood can't stop it, so can't you. You are wasting your time as well as making the product worse and harder to join for the people that actually are willing to pay.

It's 100% the wrong way to go about this.

[k0nr4d]

I can add how exact ip location depend does ISP send such data or not - sometime it shows always ISP business address or division adress, and sometime exact address of user. Tho, since we slowly moving to mobile connections and classic DSL connection might become obsolete in future, then it will be totally impossible to see where is user located. This can be compared to hosting IP whois, where usually ip whois always show hosting as owner, but it can be changed to actual current user.

Due to the lack of IPV4 space, more ISPs are moving towards NAT where multiple users are on one ip (especially true on mobile networks). Most ISPs require you pay extra for a static ip and many of those won't actually update the whois for the ip either.

[avx]

Why on earth have onlyfans with al the money they’ve made not trademarked their name/brand?

I don't know but most probably because it's not worth it.

[XclusiveG]

Why was my comment allowing you to test it deleted?