Is the porn industry growing or shrinking over the last 5 years?

you are right and also wrong:

Real home made videos are real popular, but unless there is many of them they are not easy to monetize. And yes they do NOT have to be a good quality and people will watch.

Professional productions however have to be of a good quality, otherwise they will be rejected.

and there you have it

Oh I know, but I'm curious if you guys realize people like him are a big reason others don't post. Myself and others don't share shit exactly because nobodies like him will spend 3 hours talking about how it's this or that while having no clue about anything. This is why we do it on private Slacks / groups on Skype instead of here.

The people who matter know what I am and have been involved with. You're not one of them. I am only here to buy when good deals present themselves and put idiots like you in your place. Other places are for constructive discussion.

Well , we do have a plan to open a private section for discussions like this.

You abusing Paul is NOT Kosher...just ignore his threads if it bothers you and do not inflame the thread with insults and bad language. He has every right ( right of wrong) to post his opinions. Where does that hurt you ? He is a veteran of this industry and so am I. And you are right, I would not know what some thieves pay to other thieves per CPM . You seem to be on top of that. When I read here that somebody is " licensing 3,000 videos per month" or "selling 5,000 videos in bulk" I can "spell a thief buying from other thieves" and pretending that they are experts. No different then somebody walking into a bank with a gun and then claiming that they know business. Being on the " policing" end of our content I am familiar with such " experts" aside to many honest people here, I have met a few of the former ones here also.

So chill out.... or does the truth hurts ?

.... It's almost like you have no idea how the business works in 2019. At all. Your questions are so off base.

Anyways, there's more people shooting more porn today than there ever was even 10 years ago. Likewise, consumption is substantially higher. Supply is at an all-time high as well as demand. This is what happens when markets liberalize.

25 years ago in the US, there were a few major studios with a few major distributors shipping to brick and mortar stores. Of course there was Joe Nobody in Wichita, KS, making a living selling DVD's of him fucking "amateurs" at his apartment, but that hardly made up any significant portion of the industry at the time. By and large, the industry was pretty closed off as far as production and distribution went until the internet became more accessible and prolific.

Today, if a 21 year old chick in Denver can make a decent video of her fucking her hung boyfriend, put it on PH / Modelhub, ManyVids, Clips4sale, then sell her premium Snapchat and Skype shows on the side, she can easily clear mid 6 figures per year in profit. She can make this per month if she's drop dead gorgeous, great performer and great hustler. There are quite a few who do.

At no point did I say that this is the norm for the industry-at-large now. But there's thousands of amateurs doing exactly this, and there's a whole lot of "studio" porn still coming out as well as faux-amateur from those same people - sometimes just under a different corporate umbrella.

Anyways, that PH number for premium views is pretty spot on. I've seen the monthly average be a bit lower and I've seen it be a bit higher. That doesn't mean you'll get the views, though. What does well on the free side usually does well on the premium side also. Hence AdultForce, New Sensations, MadCheddar, PaperStreetCash and Nubiles properties dominating with a few others like JulesJordan doing quite well.

But that's because all of them shoot very good content for today's market. Throwing up some cookie-cutter shit won't do well at all.

Regardless, the industry is substantially larger today especially revenue wise. Just the guys located in Montreal alone (Mindgeek, Gammae, Sex.com / Braincash) make way more money than you offline folks did even in the hayday of DVD. That doesn't include the big companies in the US, like Streamate and Chaturbate, and the massive companies in Europe / Russia.

No need ( see my post above).... Paul have asked a question and the " righteous" want to ban him. Instead of yelling in " private" advise the "perps"to stay away from such treads..voice of reason.

There's no truth to what you said. Just a bunch of emotional hyperbole.

I'd be curious to see how you weed people out.

The PH Premium rate for Sept was $32.12 per 1000 views. It hasn't been $45 for quite a while. Its still strong though.

Unless it's about the EU, right?

I was saying you talk as if amateur was never available. It was available and I shot and sold amateur all my career. It just never paid as well as properly shot and lit porn. Today you talk bollocks if you think good amateur scenes pay more than the better level.

Any decent shooter can find couples to fuck each other with little lighting, lights, sound for very little. Well produced porn costs more and is harder to produce. So why would they bother?

Also the quote about this model's earnings were based on free views and so far no one has offered a return on the paid views in Premium.

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Yes you are a big man in the business withe inside knowledge. LOL

No one shoots professional productions if there's more money in amateur. The problem is there are fewer people who can shoot professional production standard. Then the law of supply and demand kicks in. Low supply high price, large supply low price.

As someone who shoots content what's the hardest to shoot professional productions or sticking a camera on a tripod and fucking?

That domain exists for e-mail only.

PH article itself was shared for premium (albeit very outdated). Nobody knows individual model deals for free views revshare. Thommy was pretty spot on about the monetization side, though, on free in general.

I know how the industry has changed over the last 30 years. Now that so much is free the industry can't support the better end as well as it used to. But you talk bollocks if you think girls can make 6 figures a year shooting themselves. Maybe a few do but the majority don't, purely on the supply and demand basis. If girls were mostly making 6 figures there would be 1,000s bringing down the income of all. And as you don't know what anyone earns without access to their accounts I say you're talking bollocks and all we can go by is conversion ratios and guestimates.

What this thread is about is has the industry grown or shrunk. All the people I've talked to or see post say it's shrunk.