How our industry has changed

Why answer a lie?

Give us good reasons a porn show doesn't feature porn?

What is it that the site of naked people would deter people from doing business?

Why would opening up shows to paying customers, with designated trade only areas, be a bad thing?

You think knowing and experiencing how offline shows used to be makes someone claim he's smart. When all it took was being there. You're not very bright.

Like people who think a magazine photographer would be known by DVD / VHS / broadcast people. Different sides of the industry. Ask magazine and online people.

Stop insulting Brno just because Paul lives here...

This.

The other driver of boobs and parties was always to gather up as many idiot webmasters as possible. Back in the day there were plenty of guys who got into the business because they were losers looking at naked pictures all day and fell into a way to make money from it. Businesses were simply giving those rabble who lived the life what they wanted while they were valuable. Those people are no longer valuable and most of them have returned to their former jobs in fast food.

Quite frankly, its difficult to convince me that I need to go to ANY show now. I can fly into a city, see the couple people who are important to me, and fly home. A good dinner, a good night out, and no embarrassing bottom feeder with a porn teeshirt explaining how you are both pornographers.

Those of us who SELL the life simply have no time or need for those of you still trying to LIVE the life.

THIS is what paul does not understand.
the biz in this days was that easy that every moron could make money.
and as soon as it is public that there is money on the street the ones with skills will show up and take it over.


well, marketing in general does mostly not only include the people you already know (if so you are lucky). an exhibition is always a chance to make new contacts - even when you will not need them today. but in some future you will.

or we see it as a job - no butcher will go to an exhibition to see how pigs get killed.
if this is the reason why he makes his job he is so wrong in his biz as one who is in the pornbiz because he can watch porn.

Even back in the day (I started going to the shows in 1998 or 1999) I didn't understand why there were many booths and parties with nude girls and even live sex etc. To me it always felt like a sausage party filled with weird guys that lived in their moms basements and never had sex or seen naked girls in real life before and old dirty content producer guys. For me in my late teens/early twenties this was very creepy, I really saw them as dirty creepy guys. I came to the shows to make new contacts for credit card processors, content deals, traffic deals, new products, learn about the latest marketing methods etc. I had no desire to watch some people having sex or nude girls masturbating together with 100+ other guys. If I wanted to see nude girls I'd go to a nice club and pick up a girl there.

Real business was always done at the private dinners and parties at high end nightclubs (and some in strip clubs and suite parties that did have nude girls, but that didn't feel so creepy) and that is still happening today. A lot of big business for the online adult industry now even gets done in shows that don't even officially allow any adult/nudity such as Affiliate World.

I don't think it has to do with age. Back then most of the guys in the business, especially on the marketing end, were guys that sat at their house or moms basement making easy money without any skill and investment. Now it is taken over by professional corporations, and smart media buyers who don't need to see nude girls in a room filled with guys.

There is so much going on in this industry that most guys here don't seem to have any idea about. Most guys seem to have no idea where all the money is flowing and how or what kind of people are making the money now. To today's people it doesn't matter what exact product they sell, as long as it has a good ROI.

Sorry! Brno have nice areas... just not the area where Paul lives

Overall, nothing is permanent . . . or the only permanent thing is nothingness.

It's not a lie... wake the fuck up Paul, you were done 13 years ago!
You live in that shithole with no money to your name, relying on social welfare just to get by. The average busdriver salery of CZK 34,105 would be a luxury for you.

It cost less than $50,- to get the public records on anything with your name on it. And dont give me the bullshit about "its registered in your partners name"... I checked those as well... all of them.

100% agree - but paul will not because he never understood internet.
today each one of the top amateurs from mydirtyhobby makes much more money as paul ever did in his "golden days" and if you look in all amateur portals you will find out that the number of this top amateurs is 100 times bigger as the number of so called "porn-producers" in this good old days.

he assumes that the cake is now smaller or gone because he can not even get a crumb out of it. so his professional quality is the same as from those you have described and who are back to work as trainee at McDonalds.

but gis type of people will perfer to bite their own tounge as to admit that they are amateurs that where lucky enough to make money in a time when we all have been just amateurs.

I disagree with this. While I no longer produce content, I still work in adult. I cannot go into Starbucks and do my job. I can't be in Starbucks cropping images of naked chicks. It's adult content.

Do your peers respect you?

Most of the billionaires I knew in offline porn loved seeing naked or semi clad girls Flynt, Raymond, Gold, Sullivan, etc. Right the way down to photographers like me. They knew what to market, create, sell, without a page full of stats to tell them.

Now we have people who do need stats to tell them whats good. Who don't want to see naked girls and even worse will keep them out and reduce the effectiveness of the shows. They excluded customers because of the arrogance of webmasters a truly stupid move.

And the excuse is some didn't want to see semi naked girls on a stand. So don't look at the naked girls because true pornographers get to see it in our jobs and it becomes meaningless to us, however we know it sells.

Tell us about your sites.

Lies. I live in a picturess town outside Brno and no public records will give my Private Pensions.

So you liar.

The problem is a lot of the webmasters are ashamed of their urges. So excluding what drives them is a benefit to them.

And some don't have any affinity to the product the sell so are not really selling, they just offer up packages based on stats. 12clunks would be useless at building a site of a product he had no clue whether it was good or bad. Did these guys never look at porn as a consumer before they came to the business or were they avid consumers guilty of their urges.

Some admit to going to strip clubs and paying for what they don't want for free at a show. So the free shows must have put them off doing business.

If they are just crunching numbers they can and a lot of webmasters do just that.

lool - you are talking about pimps and real estate tycoons and magazins that are not worth the paper they are printed on today.
why don´t you start with julius cesar ?

again paul - you DEFINATELY do not have a clue of what you are talking about when you think you are one like flynt, raymond etc....
you know them? but i am sure they don´t know you.
these people where business man and not amateurs like you and they always adapted.

you could not even adapt when things changed from SD to HD.
there are thousands in the adult biz today that make 100 times more per year as you and a few others made in their best years.

so keep on dreaming in yesterday while we enjoy the money of today and tomorrow.