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|  08-11-2019, 01:13 AM | #51 | 
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|  08-11-2019, 01:26 AM | #52 | 
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				 | Enough to crash anything at one point was a goldmine I mean yellowmine and all a hobby gone wild. The TGP days were the best loved the shaven ferret script. 
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|  08-11-2019, 02:18 AM | #53 | ||
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				 | Quote: 
 On the other hand I'm someone who had 2 large websites selling content online and sold offline, mail order, to DVD companies, to cable companies, employed people throughout my career, had people who met me, came to my studio, met me at shows, bought content off me, etc. Quote: 
 The rest is bullshit because you can't even come close to proving what you say. I'm not saying that online mainstream advertising doesn't make a lot of money. I'm saying that porn makes less now than it did when it was selling porn. | ||
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|  08-11-2019, 02:22 AM | #54 | 
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				 | None - the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements. 
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|  08-11-2019, 03:35 AM | #55 | 
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|  08-11-2019, 03:41 AM | #56 | 
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				 | hahahaaaaaaaa - that was one of your very best jokes ever - I don´t know on wich planet you live. senseless to reply on the rest - if you do not even know who i am and what i do you just proved that you are so far away from this biz as one can be. i do not have to prove anything to you or anybody else because i approve with what i deliver and not with what i say. there are more than enough people who knows that - in fact much more than i can handle - this is why you will never see any promotion or ad from me - this is why i do not even need a sales person or a booth on any show, because I AM the booth. | 
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|  08-11-2019, 04:02 AM | #57 | 
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				 | i won only the ugly ones ;-) | 
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|  08-11-2019, 04:07 AM | #58 | 
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				 | I met Thommy on several shows in Europe and Thailand, so he must be real   I met Paul Markham in Amsterdam, I met The Hun on several shows over the world. I met all the legends including Panos! | 
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|  08-11-2019, 04:45 AM | #59 | |
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 i did not make 5 steps til the first one came to say hello. i always feel a bit uncomfortable on the shows because I do not have that good memory for faces or names and nearly everybody comes and say hello and call me by name. i would rather say if someone don´t knows me he must be very uninformed about the biz or is a newbie. don´t missunderstand that. I am actually not proud on that or see it as something special - but I know my stand and paul doesn´t know even the who is who of our biz but wants to tell us who makes money and how. it's not that i don't understand for people whose mental agility decreases with age. but we're not in an old people's home here talking about giraffes on apple trees. | |
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|  08-11-2019, 04:53 AM | #60 | |
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  We even met in Insomnia. And visited your house on Mallorca during a BBQ event, which was great. But i must say you stand out cause you are always well dressed so people recognize you easily, good branding. I look like someone who stays too long on hippie beach but gets to old for that  | |
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|  08-11-2019, 05:21 AM | #61 | 
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				 | You have no idea how funny that is. 
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|  08-11-2019, 05:57 AM | #62 | |
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 I really remember our night in Insomnia and hope one day we will have party again. the great thing on us two is that we are poitical in complete different corners (or maybe even not sooo far) but we still respect each other and - what is even more important - we both have seen a lot of the world and try to understand other cultures. this is the kind of political freedom I am standing for. but i do not want to leave the thread as it is the only interessting and senseful one started by onehung/bagofdirtyassholes ever. so let´s speculate a bit more about good old hun :-) | |
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|  08-11-2019, 08:27 AM | #63 | 
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				 | Then why is he so secretive about his vast empire? Did you buy ad space from him? | 
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|  08-11-2019, 10:03 AM | #64 | |
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 do you want i post you the data of my customers? or my tax bill? or do you want that my buyers write in this thread and tell you the secrets of their success? you are a dreaming old man that have never understood the world. you have never made money - will never make money and you can't even tell a beggar how to get a piece of bread. I will not change that with whatever i approve to you or not you would anyway only believe what fits into your small brain - and this is indeed not much. I have never in my life seen a more learn resistant person as you are - and i have seen a lot of stupids. | |
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|  08-11-2019, 10:54 AM | #65 | 
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				 | If you allow me to share, Mayor. An interesting article about Thommy Oliver - Porn Mayor of the Internet https://translate.google.de/translat...ive.is%2Fv2X1y In vocational school he hung his teacher out of the window... xD | 
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|  08-11-2019, 11:13 AM | #66 | |
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 but the google translation is unfortunately not very accurat. | |
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|  08-11-2019, 11:21 AM | #67 | 
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				 | I found the story on the German board Webroyals years ago. Now the article is 404, it´s available on the Archive.is only...  | 
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|  08-11-2019, 11:23 AM | #68 | 
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				 | haha - i forgot about that article 
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|  08-11-2019, 11:29 AM | #69 | 
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				 | but obviously the internet forgets nothing   | 
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|  08-11-2019, 11:45 AM | #70 | 
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				 | And i think Paul really wants to forget this thread and the things he posted here. 
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|  08-11-2019, 12:10 PM | #71 | |
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 when the shit he talks fills the room up to his mouth he will still deny it is shit. | |
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|  08-11-2019, 05:58 PM | #72 | 
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				 | I wonder if Patrick still sells those top gallery spots? I notice the cybercatinc.com site is gone. | 
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|  08-11-2019, 10:29 PM | #73 | 
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				 | Apples and oranges is fitting here. When desktop was thee device.... 5 million uniques from English speaking | 
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|  08-12-2019, 05:36 AM | #74 | |
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 Thommy is legit. 
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|  08-12-2019, 07:10 AM | #75 | 
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|  08-12-2019, 08:42 AM | #76 | 
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				 | Thanks for that. How long ago? | 
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|  08-12-2019, 08:56 AM | #77 | |
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 or here direct link https://thehun.net/search/advertising  
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|  08-12-2019, 09:06 AM | #78 | 
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				 | I remember our crew getting so pumped to get a gallery accepted by the Hun. Good old days. 
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|  08-12-2019, 12:54 PM | #79 | 
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|  08-12-2019, 12:57 PM | #80 | 
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|  08-12-2019, 10:07 PM | #81 | 
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				 | I had a few galleries get listed. It was raining money while they were up. The bandwidth used was insane though. Thank God they had those free hosts at the time or the bandwidth would have eaten up my sales. Getting listed on The Hun and World Sex was like hitting the lottery. The good o'le days. | 
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|  08-13-2019, 08:46 AM | #82 | 
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				 | It's a brewery indeed... and I should know! Still looking for a whinery though, something in France maybe... | 
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|  08-13-2019, 09:23 AM | #83 | 
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				 | let´s do one in thailand - the imported stuff is so fucking expensive and promoting and selling is here so unbelievable easy. | 
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|  08-13-2019, 09:44 AM | #84 | 
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				 | Dalat Wine from Vietnam taste good | 
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|  08-13-2019, 10:12 AM | #85 | 
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				 | There’s lots of wines from all over the world that tastes excellent. I personally like South African pinotage a lot! But I’d like to drive down there myself every now and then, hence France   The brewery is 7 miles from my house. Very convenient!  | 
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|  08-14-2019, 01:22 AM | #86 | |
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|  08-14-2019, 01:35 AM | #87 | 
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				 | at least you have ONE real talent, paul. you are not only the one who writes the biggest unqualified bullshit - you are also able to top yourself every day. it is a real mystery to me how someone with so little knowledge writes in a board where everyone should at least understand the basics of the internet. i don't even think there are such stupid users as you - but i'm sure that there is no market participant with your knowledge who earns more than 10 dollars a month | 
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|  08-14-2019, 02:46 AM | #88 | 
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|  08-14-2019, 02:51 AM | #89 | 
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				 | Back to the initial question though (amongst this bickering between my friend Thommy and Paul who I think I dealt with back in the old days to push teen traffic, get a room boys!):  at the hight we had 4,5 million uniques daily, on a single page, all galleries linked to where on other servers. Basically we were just a hub. Slowly that's changing... we are going back to the old days where we were dealing with the content owners directly... So, although I'm busy with a lot of other things as well (right now I'm playing around with scissors, glue and paper to design a new box for our wholesale beer packaging) we're also still working on the Hun as well. We even added to our team recently!  | 
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|  08-14-2019, 03:12 AM | #90 | ||
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 Quote: 
 pornhub alone had in 2018 an average of 92 million uniques per day and beside pornhub there are a lot more free tubes in the near of this numbers. as i know your traffic and i know also their traffic I can say that your traffic is still much better because you have much more returning users in an age-group that have the bigger buying power but also trust. I can see that on the results of so many websites HOW HUGE the difference in quality is when a website have returning users and power of recommendation. I wish that more webmasters are aware of those things and see the biz on a long term view. | ||
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|  08-14-2019, 03:17 AM | #91 | 
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				 | Patrick attends many events.  Many pictures of him at events posted on facebook 
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|  08-14-2019, 04:53 AM | #92 | 
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				 | Lol this article about Thommy, and the bedroom pic... is epic. "in his happy place" - can't stop laughing, almost as good as hearing the story of how he tried viagra. If you see him at a show beg him to tell you about that. I think I spent the following week giggling. I don't like the way this thread turned towards some form of public shaming. It's not a crime that Paul might not know Thommy, the industry is not all that small and there are areas and niches and geos. Holding this against Paul will only cause more hard feelings. It's true that there have always been a few useless trolls that aren't really part of the biz on this board, though I don't plan to name anyone. It's not the case for Thommy, and gfyers can confirm it for you, Paul. It's certain that some people here aren't anyone known or successful, or at least not yet. Thommy is definitely not among that number, either. My point is though - we all have our differences and opinions, let's be adults and work together, and maybe even push it so far as being respectful if possible. 
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|  08-14-2019, 06:46 AM | #93 | |
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 actually this was a business thread until paul jumped and puked in his famous doomsday theories in the past tense. whenever a business thread starts paul needs top jump in and tell us that we are all idiots because there is no money in porn since he left. he does not even have the smallest clue about this biz, the techniques and the market and today we are not worlds but universes away from what he still reminds. sure he is an old man and i also respect what he have done in "his era" but we are not here to explain to a fish that there is life above the water. the fish will never understand it and so won't paul. i know that i should be more restrained but i can't keep my mouth shut when i read so pointless and unprofessional shit. | |
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|  08-14-2019, 07:00 AM | #94 | 
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				 | There’s no money in porn? Oh? Need I be worried? | 
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|  08-14-2019, 09:27 AM | #95 | |
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 This is so funny... I bet thommy have more traffic to one 404 page in a week than you have on all sites since they launched. How do you come up with this? | |
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|  08-14-2019, 09:34 AM | #96 | 
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				 | yes - if I would be you I would buy a brewery :-) | 
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|  08-14-2019, 09:36 AM | #97 | |
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 CTR is great - CVR is great too ! | |
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|  08-14-2019, 04:24 PM | #98 | |
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  You had by far the best traffic I've ever bought. Do you still sell those top spots? | |
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|  08-15-2019, 02:21 AM | #99 | |
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 The debate is over whether the industry make more money now than it did 12 years ago and would if Tubes disappeared. I maintain advertising a product can not make more money than selling the product and until the industry carries the big mainstream spenders in advertising. It's limited to mostly advertising porn by giving porn away.  And Thommy or anyone else is yet show the mainstream spends the level of money required. Maybe others will. | |
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|  08-15-2019, 03:05 AM | #100 | 
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