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  • thommy
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 5469

    #31
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    How would you amass the amount of content you have today?

    And if you think it's easier today to make money than it was 10 or 15 years ago, what are you smoking?
    nobody ever said it is easier !

    but what you don“t seem to understand is the fact that the 20.000 webmasters from 15 years ago did not even do a fraction of the revenue that is done today from much less webmasters.

    some of this 20.000 one-man-shows from than are today huge companies with a few 100 employees.

    100 years ago a chicken farmer with 20 chicken could make a life - but can he today ?
    but today 100 times more eggs are produced and sold and the total revenue with eggs is possibly about 10.000 times higher than it was 100 years ago.

    you should stop to live in yesterday and talk like one of this fools who thought that a easy way to make money will not bring the high-skilled business people and professionals in a market where you can eat your competitor for breakfast.

    if you describe yourself as one of this old school guys who were to beat it is already a prove of how easy it was to beat you and the other unprofessional out.
    the market was not killed from anybody - just accept that you and the other dreamers were just eaten for breakfast.
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    • thommy
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      • Jun 2003
      • 5469

      #32
      Originally posted by Tasty1
      So you could live 'comfortly' with 500 USD
      this is more or less my daily budget in thailand - and my party times are over since many years.
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      • Tasty1
        Bla bla blaa
        • Jan 2005
        • 9528

        #33
        Originally posted by thommy
        this is more or less my daily budget in thailand - and my party times are over since many years.
        Yes, that is why i quoted it. You must be willing to hang-out than with other UK oldies with beer bellies at some place where it is happy hour and stay in Jomtien in a 200 usd room. You have an 'entourage' to take care of

        But realy a lot of UK pensioners in problems in Thailand cause they can't show they have about 23.000 euro on the bank. And if you can't, you aren't welcome anymore.

        everything is fake

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        • thommy
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2003
          • 5469

          #34
          Originally posted by Tasty1
          Yes, that is why i quoted it. You must be willing to hang-out than with other UK oldies with beer bellies at some place where it is happy hour and stay in Jomtien in a 200 usd room. You have an 'entourage' to take care of
          but be honest - what kind of life is that?
          sure you COULD live from 500 dollars a few years ago when you still got 18.000 baht for it and everything was much cheaper.

          now 500 US are not even 16.000 anymore and life is much more expensive.

          but even before it was not that you can live for 500 US the same life as you life elsewhere in the 1st world. it just means that you can buy stuff cheap that is forbidden to sell in a civilized country.

          example: a cheap bottle with 5 liters of "natural drinking water" cost here in the supermarket between 0,80 - 1,00 US.
          I brought it to the laboratory to test and I can tell you that the water in my swimming pool is MUCH cleaner.

          if I want to buy a dutch cheese here - I have to pay for a medium quality like 10 dollars for 100 gramm. in europe i pay 1,99 for the same.

          my cigarillos that I can buy in spain in the tabacco shop for 20 euro for 100 cost here 90 euro and a bottle of wine that i can get in spain for 2,95 is here around 40 euro.

          but yes - there is kind of a thai wine what is around 5-6 euro but if i let you taste it you will think it is a mix of donkey piss and gasoline.

          But realy a lot of UK pensioners in problems in Thailand cause they can't show they have about 23.000 euro on the bank. And if you can't, you aren't welcome anymore.
          it was always hard to get a long-term visa in thailand without money.
          times when you can give someone a few thousand under the table are not past but now you have to pay under 3 tables instead of 1 as the immigration, the police and the military hold up their hands.

          actually it is not different as in every other country - if you have money you can live a good life - if not you life like the digs on the street. the only difference is that nobody blames you if you live like a dog on the street.
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          • lovebitch
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            • Jun 2016
            • 763

            #35
            I make $50+ a day from all adult sites. Mainstream is a different thing.
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            • thommy
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              • Jun 2003
              • 5469

              #36
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              No I started this thread to illustrate to the endless procession of newbs it's better to get into mainstream than porn. If they want to make a living.
              i found a nice website for you

              that approves that there are still people like you alive

              so don“t worry too much - you are not alone.
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              • Tasty1
                Bla bla blaa
                • Jan 2005
                • 9528

                #37
                Originally posted by thommy
                but be honest - what kind of life is that?
                sure you COULD live from 500 dollars a few years ago when you still got 18.000 baht for it and everything was much cheaper.

                now 500 US are not even 16.000 anymore and life is much more expensive.

                but even before it was not that you can live for 500 US the same life as you life elsewhere in the 1st world. it just means that you can buy stuff cheap that is forbidden to sell in a civilized country.

                example: a cheap bottle with 5 liters of "natural drinking water" cost here in the supermarket between 0,80 - 1,00 US.
                I brought it to the laboratory to test and I can tell you that the water in my swimming pool is MUCH cleaner.

                if I want to buy a dutch cheese here - I have to pay for a medium quality like 10 dollars for 100 gramm. in europe i pay 1,99 for the same.

                my cigarillos that I can buy in spain in the tabacco shop for 20 euro for 100 cost here 90 euro and a bottle of wine that i can get in spain for 2,95 is here around 40 euro.

                but yes - there is kind of a thai wine what is around 5-6 euro but if i let you taste it you will think it is a mix of donkey piss and gasoline.



                it was always hard to get a long-term visa in thailand without money.
                times when you can give someone a few thousand under the table are not past but now you have to pay under 3 tables instead of 1 as the immigration, the police and the military hold up their hands.

                actually it is not different as in every other country - if you have money you can live a good life - if not you life like the digs on the street. the only difference is that nobody blames you if you live like a dog on the street.
                I wouldn't live in Thailand either for 500 USD. It would be my worst night-mare, sitting with the oldies waiting for happy hour. All the western things are way more expensive. I think almost all in the Big C supermarket would be cheaper in Holland.

                But i lived in Brazil on an island spending around 1000 USD. There wasn't much you could spent your money on there. Even the girly bar was closed cause there was enough that wanted to go for fun

                Are that 5 liters so bad? I always buy those. But the ones from Nestle / Chang etcetra.


                Not old enough for a retirement visa yet, and not willing to buy an Elite Thai visa.
                I also like to move between Latin America and Asia. But Vietnam isn't that nice as it was.

                everything is fake

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #38
                  Originally posted by thommy
                  nobody ever said it is easier !

                  but what you don“t seem to understand is the fact that the 20.000 webmasters from 15 years ago did not even do a fraction of the revenue that is done today from much less webmasters.

                  some of this 20.000 one-man-shows from than are today huge companies with a few 100 employees.

                  100 years ago a chicken farmer with 20 chicken could make a life - but can he today ?
                  but today 100 times more eggs are produced and sold and the total revenue with eggs is possibly about 10.000 times higher than it was 100 years ago.

                  you should stop to live in yesterday and talk like one of this fools who thought that a easy way to make money will not bring the high-skilled business people and professionals in a market where you can eat your competitor for breakfast.

                  if you describe yourself as one of this old school guys who were to beat it is already a prove of how easy it was to beat you and the other unprofessional out.
                  the market was not killed from anybody - just accept that you and the other dreamers were just eaten for breakfast.
                  Mindgeek and few other make good money. But no one is making the money the porn industry as a whole used to make. The revenue for advertising on porn sites is not going to cut it and the money from memberships isn't helping.

                  As for your comments about Thailand, why go there to live on European food?



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                  • thommy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 5469

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    Mindgeek and few other make good money. But no one is making the money the porn industry as a whole used to make. The revenue for advertising on porn sites is not going to cut it and the money from memberships isn't helping.
                    keep on dreaming...

                    As for your comments about Thailand, why go there to live on European food?
                    because i can afford to be here.
                    btw I do not ONLY live in thailand - i have a few places in europe too.

                    did you go to CZ because you liked the food?

                    well I do like thai food - but not every day - but fortunately I am not here because I want to safe money - so I can eat whatever I want.
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                    • digitalfantasies
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2759

                      #40
                      I actually have some data:
                      I don't know what the skills in 2000-2009 were. I started in 2009. but In October 2017 I started a new small network of blog/review site with no links to my main network and tried mostly new programs or new accounts at existing programs with fresh affiliate ID, because of google paranoia and couldn't get any new sites linked to my old network to rank decently

                      used what worked on my main network stayed away from what didnt, worked hard for a month to fill it. Started getting same low traffic high conversion, Not more than 100 Unique visits per site. After that my main network got major boost in google, so didn't spend more than a hour maybe 2 a day on the new network.

                      With only 1 hour a day and probably only a weekly update on the sites the new network 2 years later, last month payments:

                      Vxcash: 1200 Euro
                      Xlovecash: 750 Euro
                      Cambuilder: 700 Usd
                      Imlive/pussycash: 500usd
                      Crakrevenue:175usd
                      Livejasmin: 150

                      so on this new small network with other miscellaneous small payouts close to 4000 with very minimal work

                      My focus is still on the main network, but i'm just very lazy. the only time a work hard is when sales drop, and when it gets back to were it was I stop working again. sometimes I don't do anything at all for weeks.


                      So I agree with the person who said it can easily be done if you put in the time.

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                      • thommy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 5469

                        #41
                        Originally posted by digitalfantasies
                        I actually have some data:
                        I don't know what the skills in 2000-2009 were. I started in 2009. but In October 2017 I started a new small network of blog/review site with no links to my main network and tried mostly new programs or new accounts at existing programs with fresh affiliate ID, because of google paranoia and couldn't get any new sites linked to my old network to rank decently

                        used what worked on my main network stayed away from what didnt, worked hard for a month to fill it. Started getting same low traffic high conversion, Not more than 100 Unique visits per site. After that my main network got major boost in google, so didn't spend more than a hour maybe 2 a day on the new network.

                        With only 1 hour a day and probably only a weekly update on the sites the new network 2 years later, last month payments:

                        Vxcash: 1200 Euro
                        Xlovecash: 750 Euro
                        Cambuilder: 700 Usd
                        Imlive/pussycash: 500usd
                        Crakrevenue:175usd
                        Livejasmin: 150

                        so on this new small network with other miscellaneous small payouts close to 4000 with very minimal work

                        My focus is still on the main network, but i'm just very lazy. the only time a work hard is when sales drop, and when it gets back to were it was I stop working again. sometimes I don't do anything at all for weeks.


                        So I agree with the person who said it can easily be done if you put in the time.
                        well done - but paul will not believe you.

                        he is a bitter old man and just can't stand that others can make money with the opposite of his strategies.

                        from paul's point of view a business has to work for the fools and he can't and doesn't want to understand that someone who is not a fool simply takes the business away from the fools.
                        and since paul on the other hand is smart enough to know that such people are called losers and he doesn't want to admit that he is the head of this group, he denies reality and comforts himself with the lies that only he himself believes.
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                        • Sly
                          Let's do some business!
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 31375

                          #42
                          Originally posted by digitalfantasies
                          I actually have some data:
                          I don't know what the skills in 2000-2009 were. I started in 2009. but In October 2017 I started a new small network of blog/review site with no links to my main network and tried mostly new programs or new accounts at existing programs with fresh affiliate ID, because of google paranoia and couldn't get any new sites linked to my old network to rank decently

                          used what worked on my main network stayed away from what didnt, worked hard for a month to fill it. Started getting same low traffic high conversion, Not more than 100 Unique visits per site. After that my main network got major boost in google, so didn't spend more than a hour maybe 2 a day on the new network.

                          With only 1 hour a day and probably only a weekly update on the sites the new network 2 years later, last month payments:

                          Vxcash: 1200 Euro
                          Xlovecash: 750 Euro
                          Cambuilder: 700 Usd
                          Imlive/pussycash: 500usd
                          Crakrevenue:175usd
                          Livejasmin: 150

                          so on this new small network with other miscellaneous small payouts close to 4000 with very minimal work

                          My focus is still on the main network, but i'm just very lazy. the only time a work hard is when sales drop, and when it gets back to were it was I stop working again. sometimes I don't do anything at all for weeks.


                          So I agree with the person who said it can easily be done if you put in the time.
                          That's fantastic, thank you for sharing.
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                          • Klen
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 32235

                            #43
                            Originally posted by thommy
                            well done - but paul will not believe you.

                            he is a bitter old man and just can't stand that others can make money with the opposite of his strategies.

                            from paul's point of view a business has to work for the fools and he can't and doesn't want to understand that someone who is not a fool simply takes the business away from the fools.
                            and since paul on the other hand is smart enough to know that such people are called losers and he doesn't want to admit that he is the head of this group, he denies reality and comforts himself with the lies that only he himself believes.
                            I think Paul world went down moment magazines stopped working

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                            • thommy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 5469

                              #44
                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                              I think Paul world went down moment magazines stopped working
                              but magazines did not stop working - they have only changed the media and are now much more and address a much larger group.

                              at paul's time there was a handful of magazines and a few thousand sexshops and videostores. today there are millions of them on the internet.

                              and of course everyone would like to be the only one and tell later how easy it was when there was no competition.
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                              • CaptainHowdy
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 94725

                                #45
                                I just make alms . . .

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