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Paul Markham 08-05-2019 02:17 AM

This is awful porn https://justpicsplease.com/galleries...hreesome-18969

It doesn't even rank as amateur, because the only amateur in the room is the guy with the camera.

AdultKing 08-05-2019 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513224)
No one searches for two girls fucking each other?

Of course they do, but nobody will find that content with the search "two girls fucking each other".

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 22513234)
Of course they do, but nobody will find that content with the search "two girls fucking each other".

Who's talking about search terms?

Stick to search engines and webmaster stuff because porn isn't your field.

AdultKing 08-05-2019 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513224)
No one searches for two girls fucking each other?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513238)
Who's talking about search terms?

Stick to search engines and webmaster stuff because porn isn't your field.

:1orglaugh

adentio99 08-05-2019 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513238)
Who's talking about search terms?

Stick to search engines and webmaster stuff because porn isn't your field.

Just ignore him. He always try to get involved and get attention by doing all these as usual.

celandina 08-05-2019 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513201)
It's not about DVDs it's about the way we used to create content. The way you're creating content seems to be right. Shooting 2 to 5 scenes a day is what I'm saying is wrong. It doesn't matter the format the scenes are sold via, it matters the care and quality that goes into the production.

Just like in the good old days, we shoot for about about 6 days ( used to do 12 days) to create ONE 90 minute movie with scripted dialogues, story, a full sound postproduction and original music. We are selling some of the movies 10 years after they were made. We of course have an ongoing fight with pirates who think these " vinatges" are free to have. Everytime we add a new movie like the locomotive the new product also pulls the older stuff.:2 cents:

thommy 08-05-2019 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513238)
Who's talking about search terms?

Stick to search engines and webmaster stuff because porn isn't your field.

hahaha...
amateur paul live - i love it !!!!

Manfap 08-05-2019 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22513200)
The stuff shot on a treadmill by people working to a format, faked and superficial.

You have just pretty much explained your whole back catalogue.

You were a mag shooter, you survived because there wasn't many out there, you moved onto the the internet, yet kept shooting the same 6 frankly awkward positions, and just produced meh content.. people purchased it because it was cheap, any company I worked for I always just pushed your stuff into the archives, and purchased new stuff.

But again it's a matter of opinion.

ilnjscb 08-05-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22512750)
you overestimate the quality factor.
i was running membersites long enough to know that the average view time inside a
memberarea is about 1 minute.

not even 1% of the surfers are watching a video completely and if you ask 1000 people what "quality" they prefer you will get 1000 different answers.

Fair point, but I stand by my statement

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22512854)
I have yet to see, after all of these years, anything that Paul produced that was decent no less anything that had a "wow" factor.

Here are some of his galleries.... Does anything make you go "wow"? No. It was very average.

https://justpicsplease.com/photos/pa...arkham%20teens

As thommy points out above, quality is an opinion, but Paul was working with old equipment and was a pioneer of certain styles. You can't hold it against a Byzantine painter that he doesn't match Leonardo Da Vinci. You need to judge in context.

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22513319)
Just like in the good old days, we shoot for about about 6 days ( used to do 12 days) to create ONE 90 minute movie with scripted dialogues, story, a full sound postproduction and original music. We are selling some of the movies 10 years after they were made. We of course have an ongoing fight with pirates who think these " vinatges" are free to have. Everytime we add a new movie like the locomotive the new product also pulls the older stuff.:2 cents:

That's a great way to work. When I was i the UK shooting videos and sets and when shooting magazine sets in Czech we were very fussy about how, what and who we shot. We knew that was where the money was, with the internet we knew we could sell almost anything to webmasters if the price was right. What site would pay $3,000 for solo girl sets, $6,000 for lesbian sets and $10,000 for BG sets? Apart from the Met-Art level.

Today is a different time and I feel surfers are willing to pay for great porn, whatever that is in their niche/style, and we should be producing it.

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22513345)
You have just pretty much explained your whole back catalogue.

You were a mag shooter, you survived because there wasn't many out there, you moved onto the the internet, yet kept shooting the same 6 frankly awkward positions, and just produced meh content.. people purchased it because it was cheap, any company I worked for I always just pushed your stuff into the archives, and purchased new stuff.

But again it's a matter of opinion.

Pay the price and we would shoot any position you require.But you would never pay the money we made from magazines. So you're opinion isn't worth a lot.

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22513432)
Fair point, but I stand by my statement

Take no notice of him. Surfers who only spend 1 minute on a site spend $0.00 on nearly everything.



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As thommy points out above, quality is an opinion, but Paul was working with old equipment and was a pioneer of certain styles. You can't hold it against a Byzantine painter that he doesn't match Leonardo Da Vinci. You need to judge in context.
Rochard doesn't stick his neck out and tell us what quality porn is. IMO it's something the viewer believes is real. Like films and TV we can spot bad acting and those guys are trained. When a porn performer fakes it it's easier to spot. Which is easy to spot in a few of the sets he linked us to. Can he pick out the sets we shot and the ones done by other studios?

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by adentio99 (Post 22513242)
Just ignore him. He always try to get involved and get attention by doing all these as usual.

I can't because they're too easy to shoot down. This is like me telling them how to build a blog, search engine or sell ad spots. I stick to what I know and made us successful for 30 years.

Paul Markham 08-05-2019 10:50 AM

Shooting good porn isn't only about pointing a camera at people performing sex acts. It's requires so much more to be good porn.

Models have to feel relaxed and ready to have a good time. I used to say to them. "Come to work for the money, do the work for the fun, go home with the money."

This is how most porn should be shot. Viewers want to see models enjoy themselves, in situations they can imagine themselves in. They need to empathise with the performers, the scene and the action. Thinking "If I was there, that would be me." This is the difference between buying a months membership and flicking on to the next scene.

AdultKing 08-06-2019 03:15 AM

Page 2 - Paul Markham talking to himself - how apt.

https://bbspics.com/images/2019/02/06/yFCVh.jpg

Paul Markham 08-06-2019 03:41 AM

Now you need some good ideas on why the people are fucking. It's not that people don't watch scenes where couples are straight at it, but there's so much of that they can see for free.

Building a scene the viewer can believe in and think it was him is very important. But don't fall into the trap of the pizza delivery boy gets fucked instead of paid. :1orglaugh

The scenes where a girl fucks a guy instead of paying him was old and tired in the 1990s today it should be put to rest. So here's a few ideas.

Lottery Winner.
Girls decide to fuck a lottery winner to make him their sugar daddy. At the end he can tell them he won all of $50 as a nice twist.

Fake casting.
You're looking for new faces for a reality show a sexier version of Love Island.

Fake casting.
For fashion models or actresses, bring on the casting couch.

Market research.
Testing the effectiveness of sex toys.

The hotel cleaner.
Offering a hotel cleaner $100 for sex.

There are lots more ideas that can be used to fit most niches and styles all you have to do is make the viewer think it could happen to him. Don't pick one idea and make a site dedicated to only that, mix it up a little. There are loads of ideas, all you need is an imagination.

And don't just use one girl, have girls watching who don't fuck but are happy to appear for a small fee.

Paul Markham 08-06-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 22513719)
Page 2 - Paul Markham talking to himself - how apt.

https://bbspics.com/images/2019/02/06/yFCVh.jpg

I have your attention. :1orglaugh


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