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Klen 06-24-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22489740)
actually there is not one perfect.
cake is a nogo - i kicked all affiliate programs out that where using that crap.
hasoffers has a lot and also trafficmanager have some good but not all options.

I am using for my stuff an own software that is working with voluum API - but even here i see every day some "nice to have" what I miss.
such a software is a neverending story and I think with HO you are not wrong.

Same lol, from affiliate POV i cant stand cake it's so bad lol. And i heard they charge fortune, which is why many programs dont allow pop traffic to send in order to avoid astronomical charges. And also some programs indeed combine with voluum as all those scripts does not have full tracking capabilities in order to function properly.

CaptainHowdy 06-24-2019 08:16 AM

Get those sites on Mr. Porn Geek. Contact Danny (the one who buys my beers) [email protected] :thumbsup .

GrandeRevenueMark 06-24-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22489824)
Same lol, from affiliate POV i cant stand cake it's so bad lol. And i heard they charge fortune, which is why many programs dont allow pop traffic to send in order to avoid astronomical charges. And also some programs indeed combine with voluum as all those scripts does not have full tracking capabilities in order to function properly.

Cake is a joke. You have a to pay $500 just for installation (it's a SaaS .... so there's not a real installation).

You can't test their product, even in demo mode. The only way to see it is by organizing a session with the on Skype.

Neighbor 06-24-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489853)
Cake is a joke. You have a to pay $500 just for installation (it's a SaaS .... so there's not a real installation).

You can't test their product, even in demo mode. The only way to see it is by organizing a session with the on Skype.

How about NATS for Networks? You do know it is very similar to that of those "who shall not be named", don't you?

If not, ask me how I can provide you with a demo and blow your mind :)

(and we don't charge for installation on an SaaS, which NATS for Networks is, plus we provide training and as always, the best support in the business)

Klen 06-24-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Neighbor (Post 22489889)
How about NATS for Networks? You do know it is very similar to that of those "who shall not be named", don't you?

If not, ask me how I can provide you with a demo and blow your mind :)

(and we don't charge for installation on an SaaS, which NATS for Networks is, plus we provide training and as always, the best support in the business)

You should provide him with massive discount if he decide to take it

GrandeRevenueMark 06-24-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Neighbor (Post 22489889)
How about NATS for Networks? You do know it is very similar to that of those "who shall not be named", don't you?

If not, ask me how I can provide you with a demo and blow your mind :)

(and we don't charge for installation on an SaaS, which NATS for Networks is, plus we provide training and as always, the best support in the business)

Btw even your - not anymore since it's almost out business - biggest competitor had the same issue with links/promo displaying.

I have seen an installation totally customized to look like HO :error

GrandeRevenueMark 06-24-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22489907)
You should provide him with massive discount if he decide to take it

John is the best when it comes to sales. However the issue is how things are organized (links / promos). But the next week I'll give it a look. Never say never.

Klen 06-24-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489910)
John is the best when it comes to sales. However the issue is how things are organized (links / promos). But the next week I'll give it a look. Never say never.

301 redirect maybe?

Neighbor 06-24-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489910)
John is the best when it comes to sales. However the issue is how things are organized (links / promos). But the next week I'll give it a look. Never say never.

When you give it a look hmu - I can go over it with you so you can get direct answers and right to what you want to do... then I'll sell you on the other features and stuff :winkwink:

Neighbor 06-24-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22489907)
You should provide him with massive discount if he decide to take it

We work with clients based on their needs and volume, with NATS for Networks. I am always happy to discuss anyone's needs and provide a custom proposal. We do have a starter plan similar to the "others who shall not be named" for those who aren't quite at the custom volume level yet...

just a punk 06-24-2019 10:55 AM

C'mon guys. Do you really sell porn in 2019? In a year when every schoolboy has a 4k (ok maybe just a hd) camera in his pocket smartphone and he is able to shoot sex with his girlfriends and then post all that shit to pornhub or anything else? Please tell me a single reason why any sane person will pay for it? Just any single reason. Please!!!

https://b.radikal.ru/b03/1906/ed/3a01137b296a.jpg

Klen 06-24-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22489966)
C'mon guys. Do you really sell porn in 2019? In a year when every schoolboy has a 4k (ok maybe just a hd) camera in his pocket smartphone and he is able to shoot sex with his girlfriends and then post all that shit to pornhub or anything else? Please tell me a single reason why any sane person will pay for it? Just any single reason. Please!!!

https://b.radikal.ru/b03/1906/ed/3a01137b296a.jpg

Well believe it or not, there is still a lot of people pay for it despite free porn everywhere. Even Russia spend a lot of money on it.

Neighbor 06-24-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489440)
The biggest benefit we found using HO is the ability to redirect traffic to a given landing page based on few parameters without having the affiliates changing links. It can be done to optimize for currencies or GEO.

Guess what else can do that? :winkwink::winkwink:

GrandeRevenueMark 06-24-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22489966)
C'mon guys. Do you really sell porn in 2019? In a year when every schoolboy has a 4k (ok maybe just a hd) camera in his pocket smartphone and he is able to shoot sex with his girlfriends and then post all that shit to pornhub or anything else? Please tell me a single reason why any sane person will pay for it? Just any single reason. Please!!!

Well ... maybe somebody buys those clips and make pay sites out from them ... then come here and claim to cover like 1998 ... oh shit! I told you too much.. now i have to kill you :helpme

thommy 06-24-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Neighbor (Post 22489889)
How about NATS for Networks? You do know it is very similar to that of those "who shall not be named", don't you?

If not, ask me how I can provide you with a demo and blow your mind :)

(and we don't charge for installation on an SaaS, which NATS for Networks is, plus we provide training and as always, the best support in the business)

I donīt know how it is now but before it had some issues that you could not use it the same way as a software that is 50% designed on traffic optimizing issues.

thommy 06-24-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22489966)
C'mon guys. Do you really sell porn in 2019? In a year when every schoolboy has a 4k (ok maybe just a hd) camera in his pocket smartphone and he is able to shoot sex with his girlfriends and then post all that shit to pornhub or anything else? Please tell me a single reason why any sane person will pay for it? Just any single reason. Please!!!

https://b.radikal.ru/b03/1906/ed/3a01137b296a.jpg

it is not that there are no buyers for porn anymore.

I am pretty sure that today there are still 100 times more membersites around than in 1998.

MOST of them will die. But when they die there is a market for the ones that are still here.

The biggest problem membersites faced was, that they did not mention how the affiliate market has changed. they always thought those people should go along with what exits
and did not even try to understand modern affiliate marketing.

I have spoken to so many of them and gave up because 99% of them do not even speak the media buying language.

the only reason that porntubes can survive is that they do not have to sell porn in this old fashioned way. they make 90% of their revenues with very other things than pornsites and this other things are not sold because they are better - they are sold because they provide the tools to sell even double fried bullshit.

selling whatever in internet is today SO COPMPLETELY DIFFERENT as in the good old days - crakrevenue in example saw that quite early and they did not lose time to create products - they simply created tools to sell ANY product.

as long as people have money to spend you can sell them all and everything. you just have to find out HOW to sell it. and AI-driven traffic based on big data are since YEARS common work tools.

Fenris Wolf 06-24-2019 02:56 PM

Bookmarked.

Neighbor 06-25-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489671)
Unfortunately NATS isn't able to do any kind of performance analysis and traffic redirecting adjustment according to them.

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22489440)
The biggest benefit we found using HO is the ability to redirect traffic to a given landing page based on few parameters without having the affiliates changing links. It can be done to optimize for currencies or GEO.

Here is a little something to look over, an overview of SmartLinks, known as LinkGroups in NATS for Networks and how creating SmartLinks based on geo, device, days of the week, hours etc are established.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22490051)
I donīt know how it is now but before it had some issues that you could not use it the same way as a software that is 50% designed on traffic optimizing issues.

Perhaps an updated demo would help know how it is now, versus perhaps years ago when you may have viewed the product last. Things change and progress. Just let me know when you'd like to demo the product.

just a punk 06-25-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22490063)
selling whatever in internet is today SO COPMPLETELY DIFFERENT as in the good old days - crakrevenue in example saw that quite early and they did not lose time to create products - they simply created tools to sell ANY product.

So I did in... 2006 :)

Paper Moe 06-26-2019 02:13 PM

PaperStreetCash / MylfMoney / ChargedCash
 
Looking forward to the launch! I have MA spots open for possible cross pomo's on our Network sites for both Straight (PaperStreetCash / MylfMoney) and Gay (ChargedCash).

Hit me up and lets chat about it! :)

Miguel 06-26-2019 03:18 PM

So what's the sites of the program?

GrandeRevenueMark 07-02-2019 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paper Moe (Post 22491239)
Looking forward to the launch! I have MA spots open for possible cross pomo's on our Network sites for both Straight (PaperStreetCash / MylfMoney) and Gay (ChargedCash).

Hit me up and lets chat about it! :)

Hey, check your Skype :)

MatureKing 07-02-2019 10:12 AM

Adult cannot be dead, if somebodies says it

TubeSubmitters 07-28-2019 06:14 AM

Good job on launching the sites or i mean selling content and members area spots

GrandeRevenueMark 07-28-2019 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeSubmitters (Post 22508842)
Good job on launching the sites or i mean selling content and members area spots

Thanks for the wishes (and for the sarcasm obviously :321GFY).

Maybe you can shake our hands at TES 2020 in Libson since we are between the headling sponsors (https://tesaffiliateconferences.com/floorplan-2020-lis/). If you need a free pass please let us know :winkwink:

Note: b2b is a secondary revenue stream put in place by all companies

Klen 07-28-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22508849)
Thanks for the wishes (and for the sarcasm obviously :321GFY).

Maybe you can shake our hands at TES 2020 in Libson since we are between the headling sponsors (https://tesaffiliateconferences.com/floorplan-2020-lis/). If you need a free pass please let us know :winkwink:

Note: b2b is a secondary revenue stream put in place by all companies

Will you be at TES Prague ?

GrandeRevenueMark 07-28-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22508905)
Will you be at TES Prague ?

I don't think so. Maybe I can change my mind but it's all about how I feel because I have a surgery few days before.

We asked to be the "main" sponsor for TES 2020 but ExoClick was already dealing with them team behind.

Klen 07-28-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22508939)
I don't think so. Maybe I can change my mind but it's all about how I feel because I have a surgery few days before.

We asked to be the "main" sponsor for TES 2020 but ExoClick was already dealing with them team behind.

You should be there atleast one day if nothing else. There is action on TES even day after when official show is gone.

Bladewire 07-31-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MatureKing (Post 22494240)
Adult cannot be dead, if somebodies says it

Lots of money still being made :thumbsup

dig420 08-01-2019 09:47 AM

The only person I know who had conversions like that in 1998 was Diamond Jim, and he went to jail for it.

dig420 08-01-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22510812)
Lots of money still being made :thumbsup

yeah, but it's all being made by mindgeek.


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