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Dusen · 05-06-2003, 06:39 AM

Anyone geo-sorting their traffic, I'm looking to piece together a "best" list of places to send traffic by country. Dialers, Asian destinations, whatnot.

Has someone done this? If they haven't, post your urls, and I'll check em out and sign up under your reference, and put it on the list as well.

Madball · 05-06-2003, 06:50 AM

What I don't understand is, why is there no service offering this?
I would love to stick a jscript or whatever piece of code into my HTML, then certain countries (I can select in an admin console) get redirected to country specific sponsors of my choice.

Then one could e.g. select to send Koreans to dialers, Korean paysite A or B. The service offering this could then take the webmaster referral (a la revsharehosting.com) as their commission...

Trafficjuicer.com is a pile of crap, I hope somebody comes up with a serious attempt some day.

Icy · 05-06-2003, 06:52 AM

My spanish dialer is converting really well for the guys running non spanish websites, they send to our fpas their spanish traffic that is useless to send to credit card paysites. As we deal directly with local spanish operators, our rates are higger for Spain than any other dialer company (doubling mostly of them). We have also translated the stats to english as we are getting more foreign webmasters per day. Contact me by ICQ:83235881 if you want more details and examples of foreign tgps sending us their spanish traffic.

dd2 · 05-06-2003, 07:07 AM

Has anyone tried http://www.trafficassistant.com?

richard · 05-06-2003, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Madball
What I don't understand is, why is there no service offering this?
I would love to stick a jscript or whatever piece of code into my HTML, then certain countries (I can select in an admin console) get redirected to country specific sponsors of my choice.

Then one could e.g. select to send Koreans to dialers, Korean paysite A or B. The service offering this could then take the webmaster referral (a la revsharehosting.com) as their commission...

Trafficjuicer.com is a pile of crap, I hope somebody comes up with a serious attempt some day.

Where does the person offering this service, make his money?

I've written custom code for a couple of our clients that let their webmasters do what you just said (they have an admin panel, select the countries they want to send traffic to, enter a url to send other traffic to, and it outputs a .js file for them to stick on their site).

The difference here, is that the sponsor program gets the traffic that the webmasters chooses to send (eg, its a dialer program, and the webmaster wants to send german and italian traffic to them).

Traffic Juice makes their money from doing deals with the people who buy the traffic, but it means you have to send the traffic to those people.

I can see the possibility of doing an X% traffic leak version (you choose the urls to send different countries to, I take 1% of the traffic you send), but would people like that?

Why do you think traffic juicer is crappy?

Dusen · 05-06-2003, 07:48 AM

Richard is very cool, DusenApproved[tm].

Madball · 05-06-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard

I can see the possibility of doing an X% traffic leak version (you choose the urls to send different countries to, I take 1% of the traffic you send), but would people like that?
Why do you think traffic juicer is crappy?

I can think about different opttions:

E.g. spanish porn paysite offers the guys running the service 60 % recurring. Webmaster sending the traffic gets 40/45/50 %. Different goes to service provider. Same with per signup sponsors or dialers. Skimming a certain % off of the traffic is fine too as long as the service's cut is reasonable (10-15 %ish I would accept, a la revsharehosting)

Traffic Juicer is BULLSHIT because it doesn't give you ANY options(at least not in their interface, supposedly you can email them and they can modify country specifics. I sent 50k to their shit & made 75 cents). You set it up & it drives all your non-USA/Canada/UK traffic to dialers. How fucking stupid is that? Waste of cash...

I want options. The guys who run a service like this gotta research each geo/languange region for the best sponsors/deals on a per click basis and should present OPTIONS on a per country basis.

Then I could login into a console and:

- Send Spanish traffic to Paysite A
- Send Spanish traffic to Paysite B
- Send Spanish traffic to Spanish Dialer

or leave it untouched.

Currently, I use offshoreclicks.com to milk those shit countries (mexico, thailand, korea, philipines etc etc) but I am sure a geo-milking service would do way better. Just a gut feeling though, what's your thoughts?

Dusen · 05-06-2003, 04:17 PM

Bump

I agree totally. I, however do not have even close to the experience enough to do this. That's why I am asking

Dusen · 05-08-2003, 06:40 AM

Don't want this to die. I fear it may.

El Pres · 05-08-2003, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard

Why do you think traffic juicer is crappy?

Because they pay only pay $0.24/Min for Spain

And going with a local company I can get 80c.

Thats a fucking huge commission they're taking.
I dont mind paying a fair % for the service,
but with rates like that they're taking the piss.

And if they can't get rates around 70-80c per minute they shouldn't be in the international dialer markert, they're getting ripped off.

Thats just one market, I haven't looked into others.

Madball · 05-08-2003, 07:31 AM

I want to have the *OPTION* to send my Korean traffic to a selection of exit trapped Korean language paysites or a Korean dialer. I would login and optimize my traffic milking every day until I find the optimal setting for each geo region for my kind of traffic

Replace Korea above w/ Turkey, Japan, Brazil, Poland etc. etc.

Why on earth does nobody offer a service like that?

Cheeba Filas · 05-08-2003, 08:00 AM

http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ the best!!! It's Geo sorted like crazy

Jimmer · 05-08-2003, 08:07 AM

I have not found any programs I have liked either. I would pay a percentage for use of a program.
I was wondering about a script that created text links in the surfers language.

Icy · 05-08-2003, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Pres

Because they pay only pay $0.24/Min for Spain

And going with a local company I can get 80c.

Thats a fucking huge commission they're taking.
I dont mind paying a fair % for the service,
but with rates like that they're taking the piss.

And if they can't get rates around 70-80c per minute they shouldn't be in the international dialer markert, they're getting ripped off.

Thats just one market, I haven't looked into others.

You're right, if they offer $0.24 for spanish minutes it's because they are dealing with non spanish dialer companies, as i said, we can offer much higger payments, we get the best deals with the local operators as 90% of our bussines is located here.
They key for geo-targeting is dealing with companies from each country, they will offer you the best rates and best resources, main language content sections etc. For exaple we are offering adult and non adult content dialers for foreign webmasters for their spanish traffic and they are converting like mad because our members sections and content are in spanish (and not crap translated by altavista) and we know the kind of content that spanish adult and non adult surfers are looking for.

Dusen · 05-08-2003, 09:20 AM

This sounds wicked. I'd love to jump in on your program, Icy.

Actually, anyone with international programs or an affiliate of one, I'd love to hear from you. Hit me up - jake at gallerysubmit dott commm.

I'll sign up for sure, I'm looking for maximum ways to use this traffic.

Danielle · 05-15-2003, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd2
Has anyone tried http://www.trafficassistant.com ?

Works great! Real easy to setup and use.

Hugs,
Danielle

Danielle · 05-16-2003, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Madball
What I don't understand is, why is there no service offering this?
I would love to stick a jscript or whatever piece of code into my HTML, then certain countries (I can select in an admin console) get redirected to country specific sponsors of my choice.

Then one could e.g. select to send Koreans to dialers, Korean paysite A or B. The service offering this could then take the webmaster referral (a la revsharehosting.com) as their commission...

Trafficjuicer.com is a pile of crap, I hope somebody comes up with a serious attempt some day.

Well we have not officially announced the opening of Geo Bucks yet, but you may want to take a close look at it. You just add some code to your page and Geo Bucks handles the best place to send the surfer. You configure what countries you want Geo Bucks to handle. Shoot you can even send surfers from specific non ZERO converting countries to any url you want. Send them to a CJ site if you want!

We have several top-notch foreign traffic sponsors participating in the program. More will be added soon.

We monitor what sites are converting best and send the surfer to the best place at that current moment that has the best chance of making you money.

Geo Bucks looks at the country of the surfer, the browser language settings and the niche the surfer was surfing and then selects the best place to send the surfer.

Geo Bucks has plenty of options on how to send foreign traffic from your sites all based on geo targeting.

http://www.geobucks.com

Hugs,
Danielle

PowerCum · 05-16-2003, 01:03 AM

What about a traffic trading script with geo sorting filtering option (and a notmal filter also).
The gosorting module is just on test now.

And the script is FREE

European Lee · 05-16-2003, 01:06 AM

We are actually beta testing a FREE product at the moment which will enable webmasters to sort their GEO traffic with a single url by both country AND niche.

We are anticipating the launch of this sometime in the next 30-60 days once a thorough Beta test has been completed.

Te system works by allowing you to select the niche, country and laguages you wish to redirect AND you also get to choose which sponsor you want to send the sorted traffic too.

Oh did i mention this will be 100% free to use ;)

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 05-16-2003, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
What about a traffic trading script with geo sorting filtering option (and a notmal filter also).
The gosorting module is just on test now.

And the script is FREE

We also have this running in Beta testing at the moment and are expected to release the full script for both purchase outright and use on a central system sometime in the coming weeks

You can find the basic details of this script on http://www.geoscripting.com

Regards,

Lee

PowerCum · 05-16-2003, 01:25 AM

Lol, nice. I thinked I am the only one that got this idea. It would be interesting

Danielle · 05-16-2003, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
We are actually beta testing a FREE product at the moment which will enable webmasters to sort their GEO traffic with a single url by both country AND niche.

We are anticipating the launch of this sometime in the next 30-60 days once a thorough Beta test has been completed.

Te system works by allowing you to select the niche, country and laguages you wish to redirect AND you also get to choose which sponsor you want to send the sorted traffic too.

Oh did i mention this will be 100% free to use ;)

Regards,

Lee

Hmmmmm.

Sounds like Geo Bucks! http://www.geobucks.com and it is free and available now.

We make our money from the supporting sponsors. How will you be making your money from your free to use program?

Hugs,
Danielle

European Lee · 05-16-2003, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle
Hmmmmm.

Sounds like Geo Bucks! http://www.geobucks.com and it is free and available now.

Hugs,
Danielle

Its actually similar to Geo Bucks hon except rather that *US* deciding where the webmaster sends their traffic the WEBMASTER themselves chooses a variety of sites for each language/country/niche and arranges them in a specific preference so for example..

Chinese would go to either...

domain1.cn
domain2.cn
domain3.cn

In that order or, any other order the webmaster wanted it to be sent to specific .cn paysites.

If they wanted they can also choose to send 1k hits to domain1.cn 1k to domain2.cn 1k to domain3.cn and base how they use the filtering in the future for thir Chinese traffic based on the results they get at the particular sponsor they choose whether that be a localized site in Chinese or, a dialer program of the webmasters choice.

Likewise, if they wanted their gay niche Chinese traffic to go to domain1.cn they could opt to filter the traffic based on that too

of course, they could just use it to filter the niche traffic without having to decide a language or, as mentioned above, just the language or, both in any order the webmaster using the system wanted.

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 05-16-2003, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle
We make our money from the supporting sponsors. How will you be making your money from your free to use program?

Through paid advertising on the site itself inside the webmaster lounge

We will also have an upgrade available with a bunch of features not included in the free version although, to be honest, for most webmasters, the free version is all they will need

Regards,

Lee

PowerCum · 05-16-2003, 01:48 AM

The mine is more simple. I use the same free stuff that uses phpadsnew. I think we are using the same tech in different directions.
The mine filter incomming and outgoing traffic in order to send it to the correct sponsor or show directly a dialer instead of the real site.
I just made an advanced traffic filter not the complex system you have.
Even that, on my tests the performance sucks because of the gotargeting software.

Danielle · 05-16-2003, 01:49 AM

European Lee,

Sounds like you have a good product coming out. We may have to do some cross promotions.

With ours the webmaster can choose the sponsors he or she wants to use.

Currently we monitor sales to all sponsor sites and send the traffic to the one that is converting best.

We have had a small amount of requests to allow this to be overriden.

Even though just a very small percentage of webmasters want this, we are adding it. They will be able to do the hard work on there own if they so choose.

Now if a webmaster wants 100% control of his foreign traffic http://www.trafficassistant.com is the most cost effective method to use.

Good luck with your program. Hopefully we can find ways to help each other. The big thing now is educating webmasters as to why it is important to geo target traffic.

Hugs,
Danielle

European Lee · 05-16-2003, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle
Hopefully we can find ways to help each other. The big thing now is educating webmasters as to why it is important to geo target traffic.

Indeed

Im sire we will be able to cross promote each other services in some form hon

I agree entirely with you on it being important for webmasters to sort their foreign traffic, thats what i have been telling them for the past three and a half years unfortunately, they are only just beginning to realize the importance of this now.

Whether they use J-a-v-a-S-c-r-i-p-t, .Htaccess, .php, or a third party solution it doesnt matter but they DO need to start milking their foreign surfers.

Regards,

Lee

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You can take all the stress away and just send your international traffic to ME...

;-)

I have a traffic program where we pay partners by the click..

cheers
Roxx

05-06-2003, 06:39 AM	#1
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05-08-2003, 09:20 AM	#15
Dusen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: East Coast. Posts: 2,251	This sounds wicked. I'd love to jump in on your program, Icy. Actually, anyone with international programs or an affiliate of one, I'd love to hear from you. Hit me up - jake at gallerysubmit dott commm. I'll sign up for sure, I'm looking for maximum ways to use this traffic. __________________ Penis Pill Sponsor List and Reviews: http://www.pillsponsors.com

05-06-2003, 06:50 AM	#2
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	What I don't understand is, why is there no service offering this? I would love to stick a jscript or whatever piece of code into my HTML, then certain countries (I can select in an admin console) get redirected to country specific sponsors of my choice. Then one could e.g. select to send Koreans to dialers, Korean paysite A or B. The service offering this could then take the webmaster referral (a la revsharehosting.com) as their commission... Trafficjuicer.com is a pile of crap, I hope somebody comes up with a serious attempt some day.

05-06-2003, 06:52 AM	#3
Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	My spanish dialer is converting really well for the guys running non spanish websites, they send to our fpas their spanish traffic that is useless to send to credit card paysites. As we deal directly with local spanish operators, our rates are higger for Spain than any other dialer company (doubling mostly of them). We have also translated the stats to english as we are getting more foreign webmasters per day. Contact me by ICQ:83235881 if you want more details and examples of foreign tgps sending us their spanish traffic.

05-06-2003, 07:07 AM	#4
dd2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Owned !! Posts: 419	Has anyone tried http://www.trafficassistant.com?

05-08-2003, 07:31 AM	#11
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	I want to have the OPTION to send my Korean traffic to a selection of exit trapped Korean language paysites or a Korean dialer. I would login and optimize my traffic milking every day until I find the optimal setting for each geo region for my kind of traffic Replace Korea above w/ Turkey, Japan, Brazil, Poland etc. etc. Why on earth does nobody offer a service like that?

05-08-2003, 08:00 AM	#12
Cheeba Filas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	http://www.webtrafficconsulting.com/ the best!!! It's Geo sorted like crazy

05-08-2003, 08:07 AM	#13
Jimmer Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Waterloo Ont Posts: 878	I have not found any programs I have liked either. I would pay a percentage for use of a program. I was wondering about a script that created text links in the surfers language.

05-16-2003, 01:03 AM	#18
PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	What about a traffic trading script with geo sorting filtering option (and a notmal filter also). The gosorting module is just on test now. And the script is FREE __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

05-16-2003, 01:06 AM	#19
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	We are actually beta testing a FREE product at the moment which will enable webmasters to sort their GEO traffic with a single url by both country AND niche. We are anticipating the launch of this sometime in the next 30-60 days once a thorough Beta test has been completed. Te system works by allowing you to select the niche, country and laguages you wish to redirect AND you also get to choose which sponsor you want to send the sorted traffic too. Oh did i mention this will be 100% free to use ;) Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	The mine is more simple. I use the same free stuff that uses phpadsnew. I think we are using the same tech in different directions. The mine filter incomming and outgoing traffic in order to send it to the correct sponsor or show directly a dialer instead of the real site. I just made an advanced traffic filter not the complex system you have. Even that, on my tests the performance sucks because of the gotargeting software. __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

05-16-2003, 01:49 AM	#26
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	European Lee, Sounds like you have a good product coming out. We may have to do some cross promotions. With ours the webmaster can choose the sponsors he or she wants to use. Currently we monitor sales to all sponsor sites and send the traffic to the one that is converting best. We have had a small amount of requests to allow this to be overriden. Even though just a very small percentage of webmasters want this, we are adding it. They will be able to do the hard work on there own if they so choose. Now if a webmaster wants 100% control of his foreign traffic http://www.trafficassistant.com is the most cost effective method to use. Good luck with your program. Hopefully we can find ways to help each other. The big thing now is educating webmasters as to why it is important to geo target traffic. Hugs, Danielle

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