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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #61
    Originally posted by SleepWalker
    It isn't about what I think it is about what is being said since December 2017. I'll paste this video hoping you'll watch it and maybe see what I mean. They don't want to commit about what is it but they do commit about what it is NOT...

    He basically said, "We don't know".

    The idea of an Alien race spending $trillion and trillions of what ever currency they use to fly past the Earth is absurd. Then the size of what's been seen is incapable of doing anything, because what ever is in these UFOs it has to support their life forms. Nothing grows or evolves in a complete vacuum.

    Until they find whatever it is they "found" I'll go with logic.



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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #62
      The evidence of aliens visiting Earth is flimsy at best, so let's not abandon logic and look at what we haven't found.

      Millions or is it Billions are spent looking for alien life forms and so far they have found nothing. Yes we have found a few planets which can support life, but that doesn't immediately mean they contain intelligent life able to travel the Universe.

      And it's not like we're not looking. https://www.google.com/search?source...60.UhbPx6oLMFE

      And https://www.google.com/search?ei=aC0...60.sgNZx7jSTzA

      So far all they say is we need to spend more, because what we have has found nothing.

      So far Homo Sapiens have been on Earth 500,000 years give or take. It was only in the last century we were able to fly in a powered craft.https://www.livescience.com/32436-wh...on-to-fly.html

      And only thelast 50 odd years we were able to develop space flight on a limited scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_spaceflight

      We haven't been back to the Moon because there's no reason to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11

      Then there's the logical approach to the problems of travelling light years across space. Unless they have come up with a way to bend the distance into nothing much, the problems are huge. A few years in 0 gravity does horrible things to your body, anyone who has suffered a bad accident that requires months laid up will verify this. Yes alien life has to have gravity. So even putting someone to sleep for a year does horrible things to your muscles.

      Then there's the problem of life support systems. Building a space craft that can carry a few beings requires a huge amount of life support, so the craft we have called UFOs are incapable of carrying life forms across space. Don't tell me the Mother ship was hiding behind the Moon and sending out spotter craft, without evidence.

      The investment required is so big we can't contemplate with a logical mind affording space travel out of our solar system, because producing the funds cripples the Earth, kills it off as a planet and we die out.

      So why would some species develop a technology to travel across many trillions of miles other than to exploit resource they are or have run out of? The nearest star, which doesn't contain life, is 25.67 trillion miles away. The nearest habitable planet, possibly, is 72 trillion miles away. Travelling to Mars means covering a distance of 33.9 million miles. Now imagine travelling 1,000 times that.

      Taking the word of someone whose wages rely on further investigation!!! Isn't the best endorsement. Suspending logic takes you to the world of movies like Interstellar, Star Wars, Star Trek, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. etc. I''ll stick with logic until someone proves me wrong.



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      • SleepWalker
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        • Apr 2009
        • 683

        #63
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        I''ll stick with logic until someone proves me wrong.
        Our current logic is totally different from 100 years ago or from 100 years from now. We are currently writing Quantum Physic, once we start to build things based on it we can't even imagine where we will be. Just like 120 years ago we couldn't imagine a plane, even less an Iphone.

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        • SleepWalker
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2009
          • 683

          #64
          Good Review of Unidentified Episode 2

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          • SleepWalker
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2009
            • 683

            #65
            Yesterday the NY Post Posted the 3rd Episode of Their UFO Series

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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #66
              Originally posted by SleepWalker
              Our current logic is totally different from 100 years ago or from 100 years from now. We are currently writing Quantum Physic, once we start to build things based on it we can't even imagine where we will be. Just like 120 years ago we couldn't imagine a plane, even less an Iphone.
              Agreed. But until they write such Physics that explain why aliens travel the universe to only look at the Earth, the billions spent looking for, listening for, etc I'll stick with my theories.

              There's the problems we face on Earth that need to be solved. Like over population, production, pollution, disease, etc. They are far more important than discovering if there's an alien species out there. Now tell us the alien species have all the answers to those problem.



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              • SleepWalker
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                • Apr 2009
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                #67
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                Now tell us the alien species have all the answers to those problem.
                I'm not "telling" anything to anyone.

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                • adultinnovation
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                  • Mar 2019
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                  #68
                  They would come here for their own reason.

                  There's no reason for them to contact us if they're not here to do that.
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                  • SilentKnight
                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24818

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    Now tell us the alien species have all the answers to those problem.
                    Think about it.

                    If these aliens and their technology actually exist, obviously they must have some answers to your questions - since they survived long enough to advance their technologies to this point.

                    That's not saying one way or the other they exist - my jury is still out. But I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt they do exist.

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                    • 2MuchMark
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 50964

                      #70
                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                      That's not saying one way or the other they exist - my jury is still out. But I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt they do exist.
                      First, I absolutely LOVE Science Fiction, and easily get into any story about Space, space ships, alien worlds, black holes, wormholes, quantum realms, etc. Even if the science behind the story is flawed, I look past it to enjoy the story.

                      All that being said, I absolutely believe that there is lots of alien life in the Universe. What I don't believe, is that any of it involves aliens flying spaceships to earth. The distance, energy and cost required is staggering.

                      Maybe we will be the first to venture out to their planets.

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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #71
                        Originally posted by SilentKnight
                        Think about it.

                        If these aliens and their technology actually exist, obviously they must have some answers to your questions - since they survived long enough to advance their technologies to this point.

                        That's not saying one way or the other they exist - my jury is still out. But I'm inclined to give benefit of the doubt they do exist.
                        I'm sure alien life exists all over the universe. The difficulty is getting from using stone tools to travelling at 10 or 100 times the speed of light.

                        Given unlimited time and money a species could develop this far. The problem is time and money. Withing the next 100 years the Earth will face consequences of global warming. This will mean a small number of humans might survive, I emphasise the word might. This will bring economies crashing and our direction will be refocused to the Earth and it's well being. This applies to aliens and unless they have discovered a natural resource that allows them to do explore space they need to develop it. Once again time and money are the problems.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Build_the_Enterprise

                        The Gen1 Enterprise is slated to cost $706 billion USD. This doesn't include costs to launch the needed parts into space, however. The total cost for the project is estimated at $983 billion USD.[11] It is proposed that NASA will create a program to build the spacecraft. The ship will take about 20 years to build, and Congress will allocate 0.27% of the United States' Gross Domestic Product each year to the program.[12]
                        And a lot of the technology required isn't invented yet. Imagine what else $1 trillion could do on Earth. Save the money and solve some of the problems we have now, wasting money on looking for E.T. is stupidity.



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                        • SleepWalker
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                          • Apr 2009
                          • 683

                          #72
                          Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                          The distance, energy and cost required is staggering.
                          That's based on the physic you know. Ask someone 120 years ago about building a plane like the Airbus 380, he would have tell you they exact same thing you are currently saying about space travel.

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                          • adultinnovation
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                            • Mar 2019
                            • 5341

                            #73
                            https://www.foxnews.com/science/harr...-military-ufos

                            Harry Reid wants hearings on what the military knows about UFOs: 'They would be surprised how the American public would accept it'


                            "We know that UFOs exist. This is no longer an issue."
                            — former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon
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                            • SilentKnight
                              Megan Fox's fluffer
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24818

                              #74
                              Originally posted by SleepWalker
                              That's based on the physic you know. Ask someone 120 years ago about building a plane like the Airbus 380, he would have tell you they exact same thing you are currently saying about space travel.
                              Exactly.

                              To say it's unfeasible for extraterrestrials to travel the vast space between us and them is an assumption solely based on our current (comparatively primitive) understanding of the physics involved.

                              When you think of all the remarkable technological advances we've made just in the last hundred years - imagine what a civilization that's managed to survive a few million years has possibly developed.

                              To paraphrase a favorite line from 'Contact' - if there wasn't any other intelligent life out there...what a big waste of space.

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                              • adultinnovation
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                                • Mar 2019
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                                #75
                                for the government to even "kind of" admit UFO's are real likely means they are softening the blow for damage control of something shortly to be discovered or disclosed



                                https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/luis...ting-ufos-real

                                Luis Elizondo: Why is the government finally admitting UFOs are real, and why should we pay attention?



                                In December 2017, much of the world was stunned to learn that pilots from the USS Nimitz encountered something eerily similar to the above scenario back in 2004, while conducting an exercise off of the sunny, southern coast of California. Just like a script from a science fiction movie, Top Gun-trained fighter pilots from the Nimitz were unfairly engaged with and attempting to intercept something that could only be described as extraordinary.

                                What the pilots encountered that day was able to perform in ways that defied all logic and our current understanding of aerodynamics. Furthermore, beyond what the pilots saw with their own trained eye, the technological feat they encountered was further verified by the impressive Aegis SPY-1 radar, America’s premiere radar system at the time, and even gun camera footage and sonar systems from submarines accompanying the carrier.

                                So far, we have observed some of its capabilities, but we still have no idea of its intent. From that perspective, this unorthodox challenge may still be considered a potential threat.
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