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  • jscott
    jscizzle
    • Feb 2001
    • 25411

    #51
    "Learning from others experiences", is that really considered learning? Lame

    Example: never smoke man weed, its terrible , no matter what anyone says dont do it.

    A person who really has no curiousity to try from own experience is missing a huge learning & life lesson
    “If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.”
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    • Ferus
      Bye - Left to do stuff
      • Feb 2013
      • 4108

      #52
      Originally posted by jscott
      "Learning from others experiences", is that really considered learning? Lame
      uhhmm... yes? its the only way for progress, to learn from others mistakes and move forward. It's more or less a universal truth.

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      • jscott
        jscizzle
        • Feb 2001
        • 25411

        #53
        I hope my pilots never "learn" via your method lol
        “If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.”
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        • ruff
          I have a plan B
          • Aug 2004
          • 5507

          #54
          Originally posted by Ferus
          If their opinion dont matter, why does it piss you off so badly?

          Anyone with core Cognitive skills, are able to assess risks based on historic data. Its called "learning from others experiences"
          How are you able to ascertain that I'm so pissed off? And why would non-crypto participants opinions be anywhere near valid? Just more armchair quarterbacks chiming in. It could be that they are the angry ones?
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          • MaDalton
            I am Amazing Content!
            • Feb 2004
            • 39861

            #55
            Originally posted by Ferus
            Depends on your defenition on "sure" - nothing is 100% safe.

            Enough to book a ticket to Oslo for annual meeting today

            https://newsweb.oslobors.no/obsvc/at...4&obsvc.item=1


            Its a uncontested market space, and the primary customer is state/city
            can you please let them know that the SSL certificate for their website is screwed up?

            not really encouraging...
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            • Ferus
              Bye - Left to do stuff
              • Feb 2013
              • 4108

              #56
              Originally posted by jscott
              I hope my pilots never "learn" via your method lol
              Talk to any commercial pilot, its the foundation of blackbox thinking

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              • MaDalton
                I am Amazing Content!
                • Feb 2004
                • 39861

                #57
                Originally posted by jscott
                I hope my pilots never "learn" via your method lol
                Originally posted by Ferus
                Talk to any commercial pilot, its the foundation of blackbox thinking
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                • kmanrox
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                  • Oct 2001
                  • 29295

                  #58
                  Hodl !!!!!!
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                  • NakedWomenTime
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                    • Oct 2015
                    • 564

                    #59
                    If you have Bitcoin, I would hold it.
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                    • nikki99
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                      • Nov 2004
                      • 23087

                      #60
                      Originally posted by NakedWomenTime
                      If you have Bitcoin, I would hold it.
                      I will hold it
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                      • jscott
                        jscizzle
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 25411

                        #61
                        And that means NO panic selling Nikki! Be patient. Don't let traders and bots on the opposite end beat you! Panic selling = taking candy from a baby.
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                        • mce
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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 3915

                          #62
                          Originally posted by CaptainHowdy

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                          • ghjghj
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 3770

                            #63

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                            • mce
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                              • Jun 2012
                              • 3915

                              #64
                              Bitcoin adoption rate is going up.

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                              • NatalieK
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 20106

                                #65
                                Originally posted by mce
                                Anyone buy in at the dip? This train's chugging along. The 'wet'/uneasy/pump and dump money's been SCARED OFF. Now, it's back to fundamentals!

                                Are you riding this bad boy up?
                                dip?


                                a year long dip?


                                it was the same price this time last year...
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                                • 2MuchMark
                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 50969

                                  #66
                                  I sold off what I had at around $18k when BTC started dropping fast from $20k. Last January I started buying again slowly. I sat on it even though it lost a little. In March, BTC slowly started creeping up again and on April 1st it jumped 25% overnight.

                                  So yeah, start buying! And don't sell.


                                  Originally posted by jscott
                                  And that means NO panic selling Nikki! Be patient. Don't let traders and bots on the opposite end beat you! Panic selling = taking candy from a baby.

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56228

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by StefanG
                                    can you please let them know that the SSL certificate for their website is screwed up?

                                    not really encouraging...


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                                    • mce
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                                      • Jun 2012
                                      • 3915

                                      #68
                                      Haters still hating.. Players stay BANKIN'

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                                      • Serge Litehead
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 5190

                                        #69
                                        fun times

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                                        • mce
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                                          • Jun 2012
                                          • 3915

                                          #70
                                          Good times are here again!

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                                          • MaDalton
                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 39861

                                            #71
                                            Sold everything today, made my initial investment back with a very nice profit on top of it. Will buy back in when it goes down again. ;)

                                            And bought 800 shares of https://www.marketscreener.com/NEL-ASA-1413121/ as Ferus recommended - just for fun.
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                                            • jscott
                                              jscizzle
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 25411

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Ferus
                                              Talk to any commercial pilot, its the foundation of blackbox thinking
                                              Hands on learning is probably the best type of learning for anything that needs action with thought process.

                                              ie: imagine learning to play baseball from instructor, on paper, on video, compared to learning from doing.

                                              Originally posted by StefanG
                                              Sold everything today, made my initial investment back with a very nice profit on top of it. Will buy back in when it goes down again. ;)
                                              And bought 800 shares of https://www.marketscreener.com/NEL-ASA-1413121/ as Ferus recommended - just for fun.

                                              Good luck Stefan! keep us posted how it works out for you
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                                              • AmeliaG
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                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 10662

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by NakedWomenTime
                                                Nice to see it moving up but really difficult to see what factors move the price in my opinion.
                                                I think some of the factors are which institutional investors have either picked up or dumped various crypto plays. Availability of options on crypto. Slowly improving tech for buying and selling with crypto. Facebook and similar large players trying to get into the crypto space.

                                                Anything good for crypto in general tends to be extra good for Bitcoin because it is sort of the brand name everyone knows, even if it has some issues with speed of transaction that other less well adopted ones do not.
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                                                • Intervader
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                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                  • 242

                                                  #74
                                                  I can see Bitcoin going back up again but who knows.
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                                                  • mce
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                                                    • Jun 2012
                                                    • 3915

                                                    #75
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                                                    • mce
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                                                      • Jun 2012
                                                      • 3915

                                                      #76
                                                      Nice little dip to give people an opportunity to get on board the ROCKET

                                                      What are YOU going to do?

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                                                      • jscott
                                                        jscizzle
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 25411

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by mce
                                                        Nice little dip to give people an opportunity to get on board the ROCKET

                                                        What are YOU going to do?
                                                        they get interested when it's at the absolute peak of the pump, $15k they'll start raising eyebrows, $20k they'll start buying
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                                                        • gorillaz_
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2014
                                                          • 361

                                                          #78


                                                          see you later

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                                                          • 2MuchMark
                                                            Mark of 2Much.net
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 50969

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by gorillaz_


                                                            see you later

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                                                            • jscott
                                                              jscizzle
                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 25411

                                                              #80
                                                              $100 it's a bubble
                                                              $1000 bubble
                                                              $10,000 bubble
                                                              $20,000 bubble
                                                              the world is just a big ole bubble.

                                                              fidelity, ny stock exchange bakket (ICE), facebook, uber, paypal, visa, mastercard, nike, Line/naver, jp morgan, and every single major company is spending millions$ investing in crypto related shit.

                                                              if you are not into crypto now, that just means you are not into crypto yet. you'll be into it eventually without even knowing it (micropayments & banking/merchant backends)
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                                                              • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                • Dec 2011
                                                                • 26732

                                                                #81
                                                                I have not had a lot of time lately to trade but there are very large spoof orders happening, for example 2 large 7 million$ buy orders 5 minutes from one another and probably many smaller ones...basically fake trading to make it look like there is heavy upward momentum when there is in fact not...nothing is happening other than spoofing and wash trading...
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                                                                • jscott
                                                                  jscizzle
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 25411

                                                                  #82
                                                                  hahaha
                                                                  you're really grasping for straws
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                                                                  • pimpmaster9000
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2011
                                                                    • 26732

                                                                    #83
                                                                    faith in an unregulated market is grasping at straws...
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                                                                    • jscott
                                                                      jscizzle
                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 25411

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                      faith in an unregulated market is grasping at straws...
                                                                      Are you saying that per exchange data you have limits that never hit? You can't exchange your BTC at the listed exchange rates or vice versus? You can't withdraw your fiat from an exchange?

                                                                      By all means please post the problems, otherwise you have not basis on continuously making up these fake problems or issues

                                                                      as for "unregulated" are you kidding? If you follow crypto at all, you'd see that everyday steps are being made to regulate it.

                                                                      a couple headliners:
                                                                      https://www.coindesk.com/fatf-crypto-travel-rule

                                                                      https://www.coindesk.com/halt-libra-...cebooks-crypto

                                                                      https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles...bitfinextether

                                                                      How are you missing these? They're pretty big stories of crypto, security tokens issues (KIN, etc), regulation of exchanges, etc.
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                                                                      • grzepa
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 1263

                                                                        #85
                                                                        The price action may be highly manipulated, but that doesnt mean crypto is not getting stronger each year. For example MetLife will use public ethereum chain for some of it's features.
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                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 50969

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Today was a good day.
                                                                          Today IS a good day.
                                                                          hodl.

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                                                                          • pimpmaster9000
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Dec 2011
                                                                            • 26732

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by jscott
                                                                            Are you saying that per exchange data you have limits that never hit? You can't exchange your BTC at the listed exchange rates or vice versus? You can't withdraw your fiat from an exchange?

                                                                            By all means please post the problems, otherwise you have not basis on continuously making up these fake problems or issues

                                                                            as for "unregulated" are you kidding? If you follow crypto at all, you'd see that everyday steps are being made to regulate it.

                                                                            a couple headliners:
                                                                            https://www.coindesk.com/fatf-crypto-travel-rule

                                                                            https://www.coindesk.com/halt-libra-...cebooks-crypto

                                                                            https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles...bitfinextether

                                                                            How are you missing these? They're pretty big stories of crypto, security tokens issues (KIN, etc), regulation of exchanges, etc.
                                                                            no I can withdraw fine and welcome any volatility...I am just saying that the market is manipulated as fuck and there is no doubt about it because nobody regulates trading at crypto online exchanges...nobody...spoof orders and wash trading are the norm...I am not angry or upset about this at all...it is just whats up...

                                                                            and the libra thing is not good news for bitcoin...if it becomes a stable and easy to use mass adopted currency then bitcoin becomes nothing but a redundant speculative coin...nobody cares about decentralization and trustless and any of that crap...they want easy deposits to get their empty consumer shit ASAP...libra practically condemns bitcoin to become a forever speculative coin
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                                                                            • Smack dat
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                                                                              • Jul 2016
                                                                              • 4613

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Bitcoin will hit $100,000 in 2021. Mark my words, I am rarely wrong.

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                                                                              • jscott
                                                                                jscizzle
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 25411

                                                                                #89
                                                                                crucifissio, you do know Libra is going to be a stable coin pegged to the dollar, right?

                                                                                bad news for bitcoin? highly doubt it. In no way does Libra compete with Bitcoin store of value, Bitcoins never ending deflation, its permissionless, unconfiscatable, & decentralized.

                                                                                If you think nobody cares about "that crap" then how did Bitcoin get to where it is today?
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                                                                                • SuperStroker
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jun 2019
                                                                                  • 46

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  BTC is up, but so is Gold, Silver, Oil and SPX VIX.

                                                                                  My basic indicator is when VIX+GOLD rise and hold the bankster cartel is planning to shit on stocks in the near future. BTC is just another place for them to park their money after exiting equities...so if you are doing the FOMO thing with crypto, don't buy in with more than you're comfortable losing because it's only going to go up until the money starts flowing back to where it came from (stocks, bonds).

                                                                                  Even if you buy it now at $10K and it goes to $20K, that's only a 50% gain with a very high capital requirement. You can routinely achieve those kind of numbers or more trading stock options or futures...like if you spent $10K buying call or put options on SPX and even if it moves a few points in your favor, easy gains with far more leverage.
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                                                                                  • bronco67
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                    • 29032

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Wow....up to 10,700. Are we seeing the beginning of a bull run? They've been waiting for the gates to open.

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                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                                                      • 26732

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                      crucifissio, you do know Libra is going to be a stable coin pegged to the dollar, right?

                                                                                      bad news for bitcoin? highly doubt it. In no way does Libra compete with Bitcoin store of value, Bitcoins never ending deflation, its permissionless, unconfiscatable, & decentralized.

                                                                                      If you think nobody cares about "that crap" then how did Bitcoin get to where it is today?

                                                                                      bitcoin got to where it is today 10% thanks to fanboys like you and 90% thanks to speculators...therein lies the problem...you are the only one in this thread who likes the features and everybody else in this thread is looking for a quick buck...

                                                                                      you can fanboy all you want but bitcoins fate is decided by its user base and what they use it for...you can not store value in something that goes up and down like a roller coaster...
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                                                                                      • jscott
                                                                                        jscizzle
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 25411

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                        bitcoin got to where it is today 10% thanks to fanboys like you and 90% thanks to speculators...therein lies the problem...you are the only one in this thread who likes the features and everybody else in this thread is looking for a quick buck...

                                                                                        you can fanboy all you want but bitcoins fate is decided by its user base and what they use it for...you can not store value in something that goes up and down like a roller coaster...
                                                                                        Store value on roller coaster? are you watching the daily and blind to the 10 year BTC:USD graph?

                                                                                        ... as for fanboys haha, funny, your type has been calling bubble, FUD, wash trading, high fee, "too difficult to use", Tether pump, tulip mania, blah blah since 2010.

                                                                                        It is happening. Fight it and FUD it all you want, you just look a bit more ignorant everyday.
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                                                                                        • Paul&John
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                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                          • 8643

                                                                                          #94
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                                                                                          • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                            • Dec 2011
                                                                                            • 26732

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by jscott
                                                                                            Store value on roller coaster? are you watching the daily and blind to the 10 year BTC:USD graph?

                                                                                            ... as for fanboys haha, funny, your type has been calling bubble, FUD, wash trading, high fee, "too difficult to use", Tether pump, tulip mania, blah blah since 2010.

                                                                                            It is happening. Fight it and FUD it all you want, you just look a bit more ignorant everyday.
                                                                                            look you are knowledgeable on the irrelevant parts of crypto, the trustless/immutable/decentralized/nobody cares part...my field of expertise is what went on today at the exchanges...it is all I know about crypto...I am telling you as a matter of fact that spoof orders and wash trading are the norm...it is not up for discussion...

                                                                                            forbes says up to 95% of all crypto trading is wash trading...

                                                                                            wall street journal investigated independently and found 67% was definitely wash trading...

                                                                                            SOME exchanges have 99% wash trading...

                                                                                            the blockchain transparency institute investigated coinbase and their claim of $222million but they could only verify $2.7million...

                                                                                            they also found that 80% of coinmarket caps top 20 coins volume is wash traded...



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                                                                                            • jscott
                                                                                              jscizzle
                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                              • 25411

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Aside from regulators moving into crypto bigtime, there are community initiated shit being set into place, look at this for example: https://coinmarketcap.com/data-transparency-alliance/

                                                                                              CoinMarketCap Forms Alliance to Tackle Concerns Over Price Data Integrity

                                                                                              There are exchanges suspect of faking volume and shady shit, but I'd say these are pretty legit.

                                                                                              Here this guy even tracks the "real" Bitcoin volume, https://www.bitcointradevolume.com based off the Coinmarketcap alliance exchanges.

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                                                                                              • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                • Dec 2011
                                                                                                • 26732

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                the problem is only the top 10 exchanges are regulated the other 1000 are not...the regulated exchanges are not immune to the effects of arbitrage and what ever artificial pumps or dumps happen on the other exchanges will inevitably affect the price on the regulated exchanges...

                                                                                                an interesting development is that bitcoin sentiment is at 2017 levels...it is extremely high at the moment...to tell you the truth I was not expecting this...so many fresh burns and it still manages to rise much sooner than I expected...in the macro time frame, this rally is too soon and too steep...again, in the macro time frame, this is a perfect B wave in elliott wave theory...wave B can even reach level A but then comes wave C that is often the real bottom...I do not claim elliott wave is the holy grail but on a macro level it is often right and lots of markets follow this exact pattern...

                                                                                                5 is the 2017 high...A is 2018...B is now...C is the NEW LOW!...


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                                                                                                • mce
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                                                                                                  #98

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                                                                                                  • jscott
                                                                                                    jscizzle
                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                                    • 25411

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    As regulation catches up, those smaller shady exchanges will whither away and die out. I'm guessing a lot of them will exit scam.

                                                                                                    I won't ignore TA, and some "experts" have drawn their TA showing cases for Bitcoin to sky rocket up, and some (like yours) to fall back down.

                                                                                                    But please keep in mind:

                                                                                                    The last time Bitcoin broke $10,000:

                                                                                                    Fidelity wasn't storing it.
                                                                                                    AT&T wasn't accepting it.
                                                                                                    Congress wasn't fighting it.
                                                                                                    Bakkt wasn't launching with it.
                                                                                                    Microsoft wasn't building on it.
                                                                                                    TD Ameritrade wasn't trading it.
                                                                                                    Facebook wasn't competing with it.
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                                                                                                    • gorillaz_
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2014
                                                                                                      • 361

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                      the problem is only the top 10 exchanges are regulated the other 1000 are not...the regulated exchanges are not immune to the effects of arbitrage and what ever artificial pumps or dumps happen on the other exchanges will inevitably affect the price on the regulated exchanges...

                                                                                                      an interesting development is that bitcoin sentiment is at 2017 levels...it is extremely high at the moment...to tell you the truth I was not expecting this...so many fresh burns and it still manages to rise much sooner than I expected...in the macro time frame, this rally is too soon and too steep...again, in the macro time frame, this is a perfect B wave in elliott wave theory...wave B can even reach level A but then comes wave C that is often the real bottom...I do not claim elliott wave is the holy grail but on a macro level it is often right and lots of markets follow this exact pattern...

                                                                                                      5 is the 2017 high...A is 2018...B is now...C is the NEW LOW!...


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