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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #1

    Guess it's airplane crash time again...

    2 Days ago a 737 slid off the runway into St Johns river here in FL up in Jacksonville.. Everyone lived but the plane was completely in the water..

    Now today a airliner has crashed in Moscow..
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  • Bladewire
    StraightBro
    • Aug 2003
    • 56228

    #2
    It's not surprising that another Russin made plane crashed in Russia. They are the worst engineers on the planet.


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    • VRPdommy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2014
      • 13000

      #3
      Originally posted by Bladewire
      It's not surprising that another Russin made plane crashed in Russia. They are the worst engineers on the planet.
      To be fair, they have very good engineers. but much like many petrochemical co's in the US, it's all about the maintenance.
      Auto's here were fairly well engineered in the 80's, but the bean counters beat the engineers.
      Something that changed in the 90's with increased competition.

      Always more to consider.

      The 737max8 was not poorly engineered but some bean counter had override of some engineers. The engineer will always make work with what they are given limits to make work, even if they do not agree with marketing or budget/finance. They do as they are told, it's their job.

      just trying to underline a perspective in support of engineers everywhere.

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      • SilentKnight
        Megan Fox's fluffer
        • Oct 2005
        • 24818

        #4
        Wondering if they were attempting to jettison fuel before attempting to land and fuel ignited as they touched down. With the nose so high in the air looks as though the landing gear may not have deployed - maybe a belly landing.

        Death count up to 40 atm.

        Sad.

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        • Bladewire
          StraightBro
          • Aug 2003
          • 56228

          #5
          Originally posted by SilentKnight
          Wondering if they were attempting to jettison fuel before attempting to land and fuel ignited as they touched down. With the nose so high in the air looks as though the landing gear may not have deployed - maybe a belly landing.

          Death count up to 40 atm.

          Sad.
          Excellent point

          Dying in a plane is no way to go




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          • VRPdommy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2014
            • 13000

            #6
            I would not make to many guesses about the cause just yet.
            It could be something stupid like a lithium battery fire that started in in a cargo bay. They do not have many of the rules most of us have on such things.
            But you have to feel bad for the loss of life in any case.

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            • incredibleworkethic
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2009
              • 2302

              #7
              Originally posted by Bladewire
              Excellent point

              Dying in a plane is no way to go




              Russia sucks man
              Hard to watch even though it's a movie!

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              • Bladewire
                StraightBro
                • Aug 2003
                • 56228

                #8
                ↑↑↑ Truth


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                • BaldBastard
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 16806

                  #9
                  The first passengers getting off the Ruski flight all had hand luggage, makes you wonder how many died so they could get their bags down, and the training of the flight crews.

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                  • Matt 26z
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 18481

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                    The first passengers getting off the Ruski flight all had hand luggage, makes you wonder how many died so they could get their bags down, and the training of the flight crews.
                    Overhead compartments need a lock controlled in the cockpit to prevent this.

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                    • crockett
                      in a van by the river
                      • May 2003
                      • 76818

                      #11
                      I thought the Russian one burnt on the runway waiting to take off.

                      Edit n/m it was moving.. maybe it was landing or taking off? Was video on YouTube with flames burning on the engine wing as it was moving.
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                      • Scott McD
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 67798

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        I thought the Russian one burnt on the runway waiting to take off.

                        Edit n/m it was moving.. maybe it was landing or taking off? Was video on YouTube with flames burning on the engine wing as it was moving.
                        It was taking off yeah...


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                        • Bladewire
                          StraightBro
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 56228

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scott McD
                          It was taking off yeah...
                          Russia sucks


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                          • escorpio
                            I love to racism, bro!
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 23487

                            #14
                            crockett is Florida Man.
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                            • Rochard
                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 75733

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crockett

                              Now today a airliner has crashed in Moscow..
                              Did it crash or catch fire? I saw an article where a plane in Russia caught fire but landed safely.... Which would be scary as all fuck.
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                              • Bladewire
                                StraightBro
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 56228

                                #16
                                Russian planes have the worst crash record history of any other manufacturer of airplanes.


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                                • Rochard
                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 75733

                                  #17
                                  Looks like I didn't catch the full story... Lighting strike caused the plane to catch fire, and thought it landed... 41 people killed.

                                  https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...C-n8pvBQxOrZJ0

                                  How horrible.
                                  Herschel Savage
                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                  • beerptrol
                                    Confirmed Asshole
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 12722

                                    #18
                                    First thing that came to mind while watching the plane go up in flames down the runway was that DC 10 crash in Iowa around 1989
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                                    • NatalieK
                                      Natalie K
                                      • Apr 2010
                                      • 20106

                                      #19
                                      there was problems on take off, so the plane turned around and the fire started on landing...

                                      it certainly sounds like engine & mechanical problems


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                                      • just a punk
                                        So fuckin' bored
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 32393

                                        #20
                                        Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.



                                        Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.
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                                        • NatalieK
                                          Natalie K
                                          • Apr 2010
                                          • 20106

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          Looks like I didn't catch the full story... Lighting strike caused the plane to catch fire, and thought it landed... 41 people killed.

                                          https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...C-n8pvBQxOrZJ0

                                          How horrible.
                                          no, the lightening created communications problems.

                                          The fire didn´t start until the plane hit the tarmac, as the flight was turned around due to the communications problems.

                                          They´re hoping the black box gives more info... it may have been the cause, but it´s not certain as yet
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                                          • Anthony BongaCash
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                                            • Jun 2018
                                            • 18

                                            #22
                                            the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane



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                                            • crockett
                                              in a van by the river
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 76818

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Anthony BongaCash
                                              the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane
                                              Yea I read that. It's completely fucked up.. WTf were they thinking..
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                                              • nikki99
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                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 23087

                                                #24
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                                                • NatalieK
                                                  Natalie K
                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                  • 20106

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                  Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.

                                                  Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.
                                                  if it was due to the lightening, then you´re damn right about this being a bag of crap, as lightening isn´t meant to effect planes these days...

                                                  even if it didn´t create the fire, the lightening did create a communications malfunction, which is why they turned the plane around to land again...

                                                  so no matter, this is a flying bag of crap
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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56228

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CyberAIDS
                                                    Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.



                                                    Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.
                                                    Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles


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                                                    • just a punk
                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 32393

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AIDSwire
                                                      Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles
                                                      Indeed That's why Soviet-designed nukes are in service currently. All those old good SS-29, SS-18 "Satan", SS-27 "Sickle B", SS-19 "Stiletto" etc (a complete list is here) are the main Russian weapon today because everybody knows the USSR nukes are the most powerful and the most reliable on planet Earth - just ask Google

                                                      P.S. Yes, they are not Russian. They are 100% Soviet invention. The missiles designed in the USSR are powerful and very reliable, so that's why they are in service now.
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                                                      • Major (Tom)
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32492

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                        Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles
                                                        Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model

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                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 32492

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                          Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles
                                                          Check this out https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas

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                                                          • MaDalton
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                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 39861

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Anthony BongaCash
                                                            the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane
                                                            not the first time that this happened, I wonder what goes through the head of someone trying to get his luggage from the overhead compartment while the plane is on fire.

                                                            this will someday lead to the point where either the compartments will be locked during takeoff and landing or hand luggage will be completely forbidden.
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                                                            • just a punk
                                                              So fuckin' bored
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 32393

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                              Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model
                                                              Unfortunately you are talking about Su-25/Su-37 jet fighters. These are also known as "UFO" and their development started in 1983 - even before Gorbachev... They are really more manageable than F22... but they are not Russian. They are SOVIET. They were designed long before Putin became a president of Russia. Everything what Putin has is a legacy of the USSR. But he has got a great skill to turn into shit just everything.







                                                              They are definitely the best ones, but they are just our legacy from the more advanced era
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                                                              • Scott McD
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 67798

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Anthony BongaCash
                                                                the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane
                                                                People are self important assholes...


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                                                                • Anthony BongaCash
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                                                                  • Jun 2018
                                                                  • 18

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by StefanG
                                                                  not the first time that this happened, I wonder what goes through the head of someone trying to get his luggage from the overhead compartment while the plane is on fire.

                                                                  this will someday lead to the point where either the compartments will be locked during takeoff and landing or hand luggage will be completely forbidden.
                                                                  you're right, everything leads to this but nothing and no one can change such people. if it was up to me, I would have sent them to prison



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                                                                  • Bladewire
                                                                    StraightBro
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 56228

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                    Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model
                                                                    Look at you licking Putin's ass. What a patriot


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                                                                    • Bladewire
                                                                      StraightBro
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 56228

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                      Check this out https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas
                                                                      Crap scrap compared to America's F-35 Lightening II.

                                                                      The 2015 video you link 2 was made before the f-35 came out.







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                                                                      • just a punk
                                                                        So fuckin' bored
                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 32393

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I'll just leave it here: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...s-report-42892

                                                                        1) It's too early to speak about a very raw jet.
                                                                        2) I haven't noticed any maneuverability on both videos, posted by AIDSwire above. As about a vertical take-off, so even old good Harrier of 1961 can do that.
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                                                                        • NatalieK
                                                                          Natalie K
                                                                          • Apr 2010
                                                                          • 20106

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                          Crap scrap compared to America's F-35 Lightening II.

                                                                          The 2015 video you link 2 was made before the f-35 came out.
                                                                          while i´m all euro, loving the eurofighter, i´ll have to agree with agility and fighters, the f-35 is something beyond recognition, as there´s no other reason Britain purchasing 40 of them and spending billion on them to fill the new war ship

                                                                          An incredible aircraft, as is the eurofighter, but yes, the lightening is a shade more agile, it´s a fighter and not a bomber and fighter as the eurofighter is
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