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  • AmateurAmber
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    • Feb 2001
    • 127

    #1

    The Great Debate - Chevy vs. Ford

    ok guys, shoot me your best argument. i am not anti-ford but i do believe for the money i would much rather have a chevy.

    better parts, cheaper parts, more after market performance parts. i could spend 13k on a slightly used z-28 with a 350, leave it stock and blow the doors off any stock stang. i could also spend a few bucks and tweak it with ram-air, flowmasters, airfoil, and maybe the hypertech programmer and i would push close to 350 horses with the torque close to that....without even changing the rear end or any major engine mods!

    what would it cost to have a stang push that much? i love the look of imports, but i go for the speed/$$$ ratio. imports are way too costly to keep up and purchase parts for and turbo or not they are just too damned slow for the money.

    give me a 350 or give me death.
    make 70% sending your traffic to a real amateur babe-a-roni
  • Wizzo
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    • Nov 2000
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    #2
    I love my Camero, but I think a CorvetteZ06 is in my future....
    Looking for Opportunity!

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    • facecreamer
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      • Feb 2001
      • 102

      #3
      Well, I am from Germany so the question for me is Mercedes or BMW? Or should I prefer a Porsche???
      If do not like this - Bugatti, Rolls-Royce and Bently belongs to VW now, too. It makes the decission a bit harder...

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      • ElvisManson
        Looking California
        • Feb 2001
        • 5476

        #4
        After putting 3 starters in a 79 Ford e-150 conversion Van (think Vandura)I am all for the Chevy.....Had a 1 Ton Van with a 350 4 bolt main and it rocked......
        AmateurAmber...You are right about the Imports..I have a 87 Supra Turbo that I've blown the shit outta ....cost is way too fucking high

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        • Jamdin
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          • Jan 2001
          • 3560

          #5
          Well, everybody knows that FORD stands for "Found On Road Dead"

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          [This message has been edited by Jamdin (edited 02-21-2001).]

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          • Slick
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            • Feb 2001
            • 7338

            #6
            Chevy DEFINATELY tops Ford !! I drive around in my 95 Chevy Corsica, it's great for picking up chicks, ha ha ha.

            Slick

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            • AmateurAmber
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2001
              • 127

              #7
              i always thought it stood for Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge.

              don't get me started on Dodge...at least their trucks, LOL. worlds cheapest torque converters, dinky drive shafts and rear ends.

              Toyota is pretty cool, but then again when you actively have a 4x4 you expect to replace a few parts now and then... the bad thing about Toyota is the replacement parts pricing. they want a fortune just for u-joints!
              make 70% sending your traffic to a real amateur babe-a-roni

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              • sixfm
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                • Jan 2001
                • 139

                #8
                What's a Ford or Chevy?
                * The captain has turned on the no idiots sign. Please refrain from speaking*

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                • Dirtypainter
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 425

                  #9
                  CHEVY baby all the way

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                  • Corpsie
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                    • Jan 2001
                    • 474

                    #10
                    Crap or Crap?

                    The real question is why the hell did porsche put a V-10 into their new concept car?

                    Key word "V-12". 1st and 2nd order naturally balanced.

                    As soon as I graduate, I'll treat myself to a BMW X5 (3.0 I6)

                    Blah to alfa romeo!
                    Hoorah to Porsche (AWD and an Opposed 6, nice)

                    If you're trying to objectify the subjective, you need to stop breathing.

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                    • NightLizard
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 300

                      #11
                      I think chevy is better, I have seen ford rust more, just personal observation thought

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                      • Wanda
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 80

                        #12
                        Of the 2 I would ONLY pick a chevy.
                        And ford stands for many things. Including..
                        Fix Or Repair Daily
                        Wicked Wanda

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                        • jakhammer
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 3

                          #13
                          as i can see this is a chevy topic, let me shed some light on the subject.

                          Im sorry, but your slightly used Z-78 would get spanked by that stang and probly by a 4 door focus.

                          anyone want to debate facts? heres one, Ford sells 2-3 times the amount of trucks that GM does (in a year). is the Ford better, i personally dont care, but the numbers would say the public would rather drive a Ford truck that any other GM vehicle (GM only wishes they could move ANY vehicle like Ford moves their trucks).

                          The mustang is not the Ford muscle vehicle as many would think, that honor has passed to the Lightning (not really, but a truck as fast a car, hmmmm). And if the Camero is such a great car, why is GM killing it? Maybe cuz Ford can sell stangs in a fully loaded GT for what the sell a V6 Camero for?

                          I have owned my share of GM vehicles and will own more GM CARS, but the truck market belongs to Ford and thats my vote for a truck. The Fords have less horse and less torque but that hasnt changed the sales figures. the numbers will prove Ford OWNS GM in the truck market for the last what, 20+ years. You cant change history and i dont think GM has enough brains to change the future.

                          jakhammer
                          now stone me at will cuz i know you cant beat those sale records

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                          • Wanda
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                            • Feb 2001
                            • 80

                            #14
                            The only reason Ford sales more is because the idiots that buy them the first time don't learn. The reason there are less GM products sold is due to the fact they do not break down nearly as often.
                            Myself, I am a Mopar fan. So, guess I really don't count, but between those 2, I still would pick a chevy, had Fords and Chevys, Ford ALWAYS has left me stranded. Chevy however is like a timex.. Takes a lickin and keeps on tic'n
                            Wicked Wanda

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                            • Aussie
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                              • Jan 2001
                              • 262

                              #15
                              In Australia Fords are rated the 3rd best buying car.

                              Holdens are No1 followed buy some jap car then FORDS....Work that out.

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                              • jakhammer
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 3

                                #16
                                GM vehicles always cost me the most to keep on the road. I always seem to have to wrench on the damn things, but I like the GM car line better than any other, just not the trucks.

                                My idea on Ford truck sales is this.
                                Ford parts are expensive and GM parts are cheap. There for people keep the GM much longer becuase it is much cheaper to fix. This is why people keep those GM clunkers around and the Ford guys just go buy new which leads to better sales. Thats just my opinion. As far as being an idiot is conecerned, how can any person that drops the cash on a new vehicle not be an idiot?

                                Which leads me to another opinion. GM, Ford, Dodge, and any other vehicle out there costs WAAAAAAAAY more than they are worth. You get crap for what you pay for. Im surprised they dont hand out some sand to pour in your ass so they can fuck you even better when you get those shiney new keys and the $700+ a month payment book.

                                jakhammer

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                                • AzteK
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                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 3453

                                  #17
                                  Don't even get me started on this!!

                                  CHEVY ALL THE WAY.

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                                  • adsproul
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 295

                                    #18
                                    i currently own BOTH, and i don't know what you all are talking about, they both have cost me money to fix, not a big deal, i do all my own work...

                                    The bottom line is, if you show love for your car, no matter what it is, it'll last forever... i have over 200k on my bronco, and the only thing thats been done to it is a timing chain... other then that, it's fully stock and never been rebuilt... An 84 BTW... My S-10, well, it creaks an rattles, but it's a hell of alot stronger then i though, at close to 90k for a 94.. it's getting up there..

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                                    • stangster
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 1126

                                      #19
                                      What the hell is a "chevy"?

                                      As in Chevy Chase

                                      Never give up.. Never surrender.

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                                      • aprilkorova
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 649

                                        #20
                                        Sorry, don't like either. Not much for american cars...hey no flames please! I'm a single mom, need the dependability of my accord. But, if I had to choose, i would say anything but a ford. Now those cars really suck. German or Japanese all the way. If you had to drive the 405 in Los Angeles your pride in american products would take second to dependability...trust me.

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                                        • AmateurAmber
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 127

                                          #21
                                          i am speaking strictly about performance. meaning this:
                                          http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mustang/ $25,000MSR for 260 horses at 302 lbs of torque. 5.0 liters....dinky! ford also happens to be notorious for beefing up their numbers a bit.
                                          http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/cam03_model/index.htm $22,000MSR for a 310 horse 5.7 liter with an average of 400 foot lbs of torque. chevy is also known for being discreet with their numbers.

                                          first off, your going to have to dump some cash into any stang to get any kind of decent performance. a stock V-8 camaro will beat a stock V-8 stang. period. i would rather spend less money and get the faster, cheaper to maintain (accesories/performance extra's), and better handling camaro.

                                          as for the truck issue i have had them all, dodge, ford, chevy, and toyota. the chevies have always been more reliable and have higher resale. they are more "user friendly" when it comes to doing any kind of engine mods. the camaro specifically is built to be beefed up, bigger stock rear ends and better transmissions.

                                          chevy's 454 HD was just named truck of the year.

                                          make 70% sending your traffic to a real amateur babe-a-roni

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                                          • jakhammer
                                            Registered User
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 3

                                            #22
                                            Man, Im a retard. First off, I need to learn how to read, Second, yes the stang would get its ass whipped in a race with a camero. my bad, I must have had my brian plugged in backwards when i was reading.

                                            Maybe a Camero cost that in your area, but I was pricing out cars and trucks not to long ago and this was my findings:
                                            1 2001 Mustang GT loaded minus leather in a hardtop: $22995 plus tax, title, sand for the ass fucking, etc
                                            1 2001 Camero Z28, loaded minus leather in a hardtop $28995 plus tax, title, more sand, etc
                                            1 Pontiac Firebird V6 with T-tops and the Monsoon Cd player with the noraml options (air, cruise, tilt, power windows and lock,) with remote start, $23995 plus sand, tax, title, etc

                                            Here a stang is much cheaper that a GM pony car. Of course you have to take that extra cash and buy horse power add-ons to get to the speed of a GM. I will not lie about that now that my brian is plugged in correctly!

                                            Ford dont offer a Mustang with a 5.0L and havent since 95 or 96, its 4.6L unless you have a Cobra R which is a 5.6L.

                                            GM, Ford, Dodge, Syochows, Cowlins, And any other off the wall truck will require service, But I have never seen a GM last as long as a Ford in EXTREME CONDITIONS. This isnt Grandpa Joe Condtions, Im talking "I am 16, nothing can kill me, let go rip some shit up cuz I am fucking nuts" EXTREME CONDITIONS. I can not speak for the dodges since only Grandpa Joes seem to own those here.

                                            GM does seem to have a higher resale this is true, must be cuz there are 2x as many Ford trucks on the road. That would make anything worth less money.

                                            Cameros are as beefed up as Mustangs are beefed up. You get a truck rear end (cuz its the ONLY rear end they have) with a sport suspension and half the weight of a truck. Plain and simple.

                                            Ever read a Ford Lightning Review? They claim 360 Horse and a 1/4 mile of high 14s. Reality found by almost all the reviews: 1/4 miles in 14.10-14.25 which would equal 370+ horse. Those Ford numbers are a tad low (not all Ford numbers are printed this way, this is just an example).

                                            Yes GM has truck of the year, but another year is coming.

                                            GM, Ford, Dodge, you bought it, if you dont like it, get something else.

                                            jakhammer

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                                            • WildWilly
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 5

                                              #23
                                              I see Jackhammer knows a little something about motor vehicles!!!
                                              The rest of you.......YIKES!!!!!

                                              I have 3 show cars (trucks) a '71 Mustang MachI, a '96 F-150 4X4, and a '74 Camaro Z-28.
                                              The Fords win all the trophies.....Why is that? Because Quality is job one!!!

                                              Jackhammer, I think my Z would spank the 'stangs ass though....maybe the Pontiac 455 has a little to do with it!! hehe

                                              I can post pictures, if requested!
                                              Wild Willy
                                              http://www.willyslinks.com

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                                              • ms69
                                                Registered User
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 32

                                                #24
                                                I am not anti-chevy but I will say that Ford's Mustang is one hell of a ride. I own 3 of these bad boys. Ford rules!

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                                                • Wizzo
                                                  2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
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                                                  #25
                                                  If anyone is interested in a new Roush Mustang Convert, I have a friend looking to rid of her's because she doesn't like it
                                                  Looking for Opportunity!

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                                                  • ms69
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                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 32

                                                    #26
                                                    Wizzo, are you joking? The car is just more than she can handle. Right?

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                                                    • blackcat
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                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 168

                                                      #27
                                                      chevy is fine, but i still love my black mustang cobra... i got this nick from the car, it looks like an black cat...

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                                                      • Poizon
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                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 157

                                                        #28
                                                        Well, I've had both Fords and Chevys and IMHO, Ford was a bit better, but I do happen to like the Chevy Cavaliers. Nice cars

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                                                        • Wizzo
                                                          2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                          • Nov 2000
                                                          • 15224

                                                          #29
                                                          ms69, I'm not joking, No it's not a matter of to much car, she is very into fast cars...In fact, She likes her Vette just fine, and she's looking at maybe getting a new 505hp Viper, but the mustangs just don't "feel right" to alot of us.
                                                          Looking for Opportunity!

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