Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within?

I put drunk russki on ignore, that was kind of relieving

and why do i care about Brexit?

Because I do like the UK and I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit that made them think the EU is such a huge burden on them

Reminder: the UK net contribution to the EU is 1.25% of their annual GDP.

And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU.

Paul is the very (award winning) best . . .

The brexit magic beans did not grow doooo daaa dooo daaaa
Pauls meager pension is about to shrink da da doooo daaaa day!

Donald Trump defends UK and warns 'brutal' EU on Brexit - ‘It all comes back to bite you'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...e-50-extension

Owh how selective So now Trump is someone to recognize… Tomorrow you think it's an idiot again!

The EU is rreally really scared now!

If you really like someone, then you set him free :o. You allow him to make any decision he wants, and later maybe, if you still like him, welcome him back, like lost son. If he will want it of course...

And what I saw from EU side (at the begining at least) was the urge to "punish" UK and "set them" as an example...I dont think that this is what real gentlemen/ friends clubs do. Sounded more like thug/ mafia style clubs.

Nonethless, before they leave they should pay what is genuinely owed to EU..

"And almost none of the actual problems the UK has, is in any way based on the fact that they are member of the EU."
well actually I could find few ones. First one that comes to my mind - hordes of emigrants from Eastern / Central Europe (including Poland) f.. up their real estate market even more than it was f... before. From the renters (especially) /buyers (less) point of view of course.
I think that UK is too big country to lose a lot during Brexit. They will be fine, somehow. Maybe not at the beginning but after 5-10 years. Maybe they will even improve.

"I hate that a few criminal liars have tricked so many into believing the bullshit" - unfortunately this is the dark side of democracy, and your country before was the best example for that - how it can easily be ruined by band of criminals that know how to exploit supportive "ground" of its times.
how can you have good democracy btw if most of the people/voters have troubles with comprehending information and critical reception of it ?

its a typical Ruskie style.
This + silence when faced with really disturbing question.
+ classical confusion of the facts and mixing them with some emotional semi- truths.

Imagine how they dont give a shit about this forum if they sent someone that barely speaks English and even pay him for that
HUGE disrespect.

Twelve years ago, Russians consumed roughly 15 litres of alcohol per person a year, which put them in fourth in the world rankings of the hardest-drinking countries. Now, in Russia, the per capita average is closer to 10 litres. (By comparison, Canada drinks eight litres per capita per year.)
Russia now ranks 14th in terms of alcohol consumption globally, and is comparable to France and Germany.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia...king-1.4949099

https://www.alcohol.org/guides/globa...-demographics/



Why selective? Another side


Exclusive: EU tariffs to target 20 billion euros of U.S. imports - diplomats
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-us...-idUKKCN1RO1VO

well, I said it before on here, I want them to leave now.

because otherwise they will cry forever how it was the EUs fault they couldn't leave, even though voting a hundred times in their own parliament never brought a majority for anything. But just like with all the other crap - blaming the EU is much easier.

and just two things in regards to the other points you made:

it was the UK government that allowed Poles, Czechs etc to migrate immediately after they joined the EU, other countries (like Germany) restricted it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_e...European_Union

Once again - UK politicians are to blame, not the EU.

And in regards to the housing market:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ts-dirty-money

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8274106.html

If you let Russians, Chinese and Arabs buy themselves into your country and help them to hide their money which then drives up property prices - how is this the fault of the EU and not your own governments fault?

There is plenty of crap that the EU is to blame for but I would prefer we concentrate on that and try to solve it.

But you can't solve things on EU level that do not fall under EU competency.

And yet that is exactly what people like Markham think (have been made to think) - that they are powerless under EU rule.

Which is nonsense once you look closer.

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Politicians refuse to accept it. For more reasons than the backstop.

So we stay inside and elect MEP who are committed to drag it back to a Trade Union and drop the idea of a Political Union. Even you are unable to give good reason for Centralist Rule. We don't need it and if the EU asked the people of each country if they wanted it, the vote would be no.

As fort not answering your question, the thread title tells you all. Did you miss it?

What the fuck are you on about?

Give us good reasons for centralist rule. Or shut the fuck up.

Did you miss the thread title?

The Right Wing of MEPs will hopefully destroy the dreams of those who want to rule Europe from the centre.

It's the EU who want to separate Ireland. The UK and Eire will never erect a border. Read the news. And shut the fuck up.

Did you miss the thread title?