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  • MaDalton
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    • Feb 2004
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    #101
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    Still unable to print a simple list of why Europe needs to be ruled from the centre
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    • Struggle4Bucks
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      • May 2011
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      #102
      Paul is like a fish… he cannot think more than 3 seconds ahead. That's why he sees an unperfect EU; unelected EU bureaucrates (Paul only accepts buttrapes from bureaucrates that were elected. Thats a huge difference… only the outcome: buttrapes, is the same!LOL); money going from rich too poor countries (yes thats going to last forever lol! no were not developing markets, we are just giving free money away there is no plan to back it up or justify it LOL); and then he considers the EU as FAILED! Only fishes and samelike fucktards cannot see that the EU is a work in progress! A transition! For that being able to see you must be able to look 3 seconds ahead!


      So Paul is looking at his 3 seconds timespan of TODAY and thinks… hummm we can fix all shit with tradedeals! TRADEDEALS!!! blahblahmehmeh!!!
      Geopolitics is looking 30 years ahead… but Paul wants to save the UK with tradedeals LOL!@!!! Tradedeals will be the least of Britains concerns 20 years from now… but Paul wants to save britain with Tradedeals! Jesus Christ you sound like a downer with a syfilis infected brain!

      Ok lets see where is the world heading…
      We have America picking up an isolationist attitude. Trumpstar is even debating NATO allready. With all respect but without NATO America could even risks loosing a war against Russia or China or risks at least very large damages…

      We have China... they stepped up on the world stage... they are not stepping down anytime soon. They now slowly starting to think that they are obliged to their stature (and they are correct on this) to dominate their region. Because thats what every superpower ends up doing… dominating it's region. I can see how that gives a conflict with the USA.

      We have Russia... What does it say about Russia that they regularly enter EU territory with heavily armed bombers aircrafts? Pure provocation…. What does that say? It is at least a very hostile attitude. What does it say Paul? Sure… they cant do anything in the world of today… and in Paul's world it is forever today!

      Pauly Paul and the funny bunch think that the world is a fairground. That EUs wealth is here because the rest of this friendly world says: hey Europe! We like you! Here are our resources! Good luck with it and happy wealth!!!! Fact is: Europes wealth is backed by guns and bombs and was gained by killing and exploiting complete continents! Not because our entrepeneurs are soooo much smarter! Is this bad? No its human nature. I rather be the buttfucker then the buttfucked!!!

      So now that we know this world is not a fairground Paul. Now that we know that Europe’s wealth is not LAW of nature.... What are 28 shitty Tiny armies going to do against geopolitically argressive, proven to be hostile countries with huge armies allready provocating all over the place! You suggest tradedeals you old fucktard?
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      • Struggle4Bucks
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        • May 2011
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        #103
        Russia want to dominate and influence its region Paul! And Europe is that region! You go out there and fix us Some tradedeals you fuckturd
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        • Struggle4Bucks
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          • May 2011
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          #104
          Superpowers scaling up in the battle for resources... Paul wants to scale down and fix us Some tradedeals lol
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          • Struggle4Bucks
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            • May 2011
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            #105
            Last time britain declared war they dived right into Londons Subway to hide for 5 years from all the bombs.
            But hey! Paul Will fix us Some tradedeals!

            LOL
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            • thommy
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              • Jun 2003
              • 5469

              #106
              Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
              Last time britain declared war they dived right into Londons Subway to hide from all the bombs.
              But hey! Paul Will fix us Some tradedeals!

              LOL
              at least the brits still did not lost their humor...

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              • Sarn
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                #107
                Originally posted by thommy
                you forget one thing:
                russia is still celebrating every year the victory over nazi-germany.
                You not like it? ))

                Originally posted by thommy
                russians, americans, english are still seeing theirself as the ones that cleaned the planet from people that thought EXACTLY like you.
                another lie

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                Originally posted by thommy
                the problem is that many of you guys are blinded by paroles from people that are afraid from the economic power that a european union represents.

                sure that a lot of countries are afraid of the same or even more power from a united europe. and sure that those countries do all to destroy it.
                and the best way to destroy it is to give you the wrong facts or only parts of the facts.

                a europe without the EU will be a very poor europe - we would be slaves of the existing superpowers and possibly end up in a war against each other again.
                especially because of people like trump, putin, edogan, kim and a few others who do not care or even ask allies, it is important to have a united europe that is first of all a strong economic power that can´t be overseen.
                Germoni failed EU)) Merkel did it - not Kim

                Originally posted by thommy
                it might be possible that this right wingers in germany have this intension you fear - but you can be sure that Germany will never be a brown country anymore. german´s love the peace they had in the last 70 years and keep it as their highest good.
                believe me
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                • Sarn
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                  Very simple: because else it will be ruled from the outskirts...
                  very simple
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                  • Paul Markham
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                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #109
                    the problem is that many of you guys are blinded by paroles from people that are afraid from the economic power that a european union represents.
                    Is that economic power driving the Euro, GDP, economy, living standards for the better off countries of Europe. Or pre-occupied trying to drag the lesser nations up by giving them loads of money?

                    sure that a lot of countries are afraid of the same or even more power from a united europe. and sure that those countries do all to destroy it.
                    and the best way to destroy it is to give you the wrong facts or only parts of the facts.
                    The better off countries.

                    a europe without the EU will be a very poor europe - we would be slaves of the existing superpowers and possibly end up in a war against each other again.
                    especially because of people like trump, putin, edogan, kim and a few others who do not care or even ask allies, it is important to have a united europe that is first of all a strong economic power that can´t be overseen.
                    The next world war will be the end of the Earth. So no more scare stories.

                    It would be great if the EU were led by super intelligent elite who didn't make fools of themselves. The evidence points in the other direction. Politicians aren't the brightest the country has to offer. Today clever people go into business and steer clear of politics.

                    Antonio Tajani

                    Donald Tusk

                    Jean-Claude Juncker

                    Angela Merkel

                    Emmanuel Macron

                    This is the quality of our political elite the Thommy is convinced will lead us into a brave new world. Which one has achieved anything? Even in politics they fuck up. The list of mistakes they make is longer than their list of achievements. Driven by political ideals that limit them.

                    The only reason they're playing hard ball with the UK deal to leave the EU is to warn other countries not to have a referendum. Because that will signal their end. The deal on the table ties the UK to the EU with no get out clause, evidence they intent to rule Europe whether Europeans want it or not.



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                    • Sarn
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                      ...
                      We have America...
                      We have Russia...
                      I rather be the buttfucker then the buttfucked!!!
                      ...
                      this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace
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                      • pimpmaster9000
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                        • Dec 2011
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                        #111
                        the paul markham alzheimer dunning kruger: politicians are supposed to score blinding wins, global economy is easy, all problems have simple win/win solutions


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                        • Sarn
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                          #112

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                          • Struggle4Bucks
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                            • May 2011
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by Sarn
                            this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace
                            Putin paid trolls cant write or read english... im doing my best but mostly do not understand one single fuck about what you say lol!
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                            • MaDalton
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #114
                              Here's the reality people like Markham can't or don't want to see. The problem is: when this takes full effect Markham will be dead and the young folks will suffer from it.

                              Then again: should have voted remain then instead of playing with their smartphones and jerking off

                              The strategic outlook for the UK automotive industry beyond Brexit
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                              Since the Brexit referendum all but one major decision have gone against the UK: Daimler cancelled its joint project with Nissan for Sunderland, Jaguar Land Rover moved production of the Discovery model to Slovakia, Honda announced the closure of its Swindon plant (even turning around the ship that was bringing production equipment to make the electric version of the Civic in the UK), and Nissan announced that the next generation of the X-trail SUV would be produced in Japan (making good use of the EU-Japan free-trade deal that has just come into force and will see import tariffs on cars taper away to zero). In addition, Toyota and BMW have both put out stark warnings that their UK production is under threat in a no-deal Brexit scenario. Toyota’s recent announcement to produce a Suzuki-badged version of its Corolla estate in the UK surely was welcome news in this context, while of course this will neither lead to new employment nor significant additional investment. Not surprisingly, overall investment in the industry has dropped by 80% over the last three years.
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                              • Paul Markham
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                                • Jun 2001
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                Because it reduce administration costs.
                                Not for the better off countries.



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                                • Struggle4Bucks
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by StefanG
                                  The problem is: when this takes full effect Markham will be dead
                                  Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...
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                                  • Struggle4Bucks
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Sarn
                                    this buttfuckers in your list provide 70 years peace
                                    Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...

                                    From the last 70 years... The russians were hungry 60 of them...
                                    You cant provide peace with an empty stomach...
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                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                      Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...
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                                      • thommy
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                                        • Jun 2003
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                        Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...
                                        but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.

                                        history isn't really something russians know a lot about. forgive him - he just doesn't know any better.
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                                        • thommy
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                          Not for the better off countries.
                                          you really sound like a supremacist

                                          Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?

                                          no - not because of your crazy theses, but they probably all believe that they all end up like you when they get older.

                                          when i am as old as you and start to give such nonsense of me i hope that someone is there and pulls the plug from the internet. don't you notice which clown you make out of yourself?
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                                          • Struggle4Bucks
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                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by thommy
                                            but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.
                                            Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

                                            Oh wait....
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                                            • NatalieK
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                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Sarn

                                              he´s a rude ignorant childish twat



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                                              • Sarn
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...
                                                It English guys)) they will take Merkel's money for not leave EU, so much as only she can pay them. More time = more money
                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                Not for the better off countries.
                                                Bureaucrats ruined Union for the low-cost price
                                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                Ahhh I unraveled your babblings.... The Russians helped defeating the nazis; they sure did not provided or contributed to 70 years of peace...
                                                From the last 70 years... The russians were hungry 60 of them...
                                                You cant provide peace with an empty stomach...
                                                with fat ass provide peace better?

                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                but let´s not forget: when germany run into poland from the west the russians did it the same time from the east.
                                                history isn't really something russians know a lot about. forgive him - he just doesn't know any better.
                                                poor stronk poland

                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                ...
                                                Germany always did better than the other european nations
                                                ...
                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                you really sound like a supremacist
                                                Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?
                                                ...


                                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                Correct! And i think Poland also still remembers. If I was Poland i might be thinking about maybe some sort of missile defense shield or something....

                                                Oh wait....
                                                pay for it to Trump and put we move some very deadly into Poland border too
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                                                • NatalieK
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                                                  • Apr 2010
                                                  • 20106

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                  Yeah... i’ve read today that the brexit will take another 6 months...
                                                  most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

                                                  I watched the news and they asked 100´s of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

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                                                  • The Porn Nerd
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                                                    #125
                                                    Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
                                                    But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

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                                                    • thommy
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                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                      Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
                                                      But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

                                                      the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

                                                      but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

                                                      everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

                                                      on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

                                                      the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
                                                      everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
                                                      conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
                                                      the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

                                                      unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they don´t do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.
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                                                      • Sarn
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                        Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
                                                        But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

                                                        someone who loves Islam and corrupt bureaucracy?

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                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                          Europe needs someone to make the trains run on time.
                                                          But, you know, a nicer version of it. :D

                                                          in case i understand the joke correctly it's a really shitty joke.
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                                                          • klinton
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                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                            Putin paid trolls cant write or read english... im doing my best but mostly do not understand one single fuck about what you say lol!


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                                                            • klinton
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                                                              #130
                                                              So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
                                                              it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
                                                              damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

                                                              All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
                                                              So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !

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                                                              • Struggle4Bucks
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                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by klinton
                                                                So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
                                                                it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
                                                                damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

                                                                All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
                                                                So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !
                                                                I understand what you are saying. I think we can all accept Brexit. Its more harmfull to the UK than to The EU! Its just that we cant accept and cant deal with the gigantic annoying stupidity of Pauly Paul and the Funny Bunch!!!!!

                                                                If it turns out that Paul actually have brains... then he should give them to science! Because i have never saw that much sciencefiction coming from 1 brain!
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                                                                • thommy
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                                  So many people are preoccupied and worried about Brexit, and they are not even from UK...
                                                                  it amazes me. what amazes me even more is how all Germans are preoccupied by UK decision..same with France...
                                                                  damn, dudes. get over it. they made a decision already. respect it. maybe in the future they will want to come back, maybe the decision is bad or wrong...maybe they wont do it at all...but they made a decision...

                                                                  All these laments from German and French side prove only one thing - that Brexit will be potentially harmful for said countries, not especially for UK...
                                                                  So why you lamenting about Brexit ? Just respect it !
                                                                  I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

                                                                  the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
                                                                  they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

                                                                  THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

                                                                  I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and don´t forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

                                                                  so where are here the voices to let people decide?
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                                                                  • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing?

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                                                                    • thommy
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                      bitches, why aint the brexit magic beans growing?

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                                                                      • astronaut x
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                                        Paul is like a fish… he cannot think more than 3 seconds ahead.
                                                                        or at least until tube sites.
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                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 52942

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by thommy
                                                                          you really sound like a supremacist

                                                                          Do you know that you're scaring the young people who read here?

                                                                          no - not because of your crazy theses, but they probably all believe that they all end up like you when they get older.

                                                                          when i am as old as you and start to give such nonsense of me i hope that someone is there and pulls the plug from the internet. don't you notice which clown you make out of yourself?
                                                                          I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.

                                                                          The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.

                                                                          Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.

                                                                          As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.



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                                                                          • Paul Markham
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                            If the 50% of Americans that wanted him in cannot see how much an idiot he is by now, help them, they need mental help
                                                                            Even some of his supporters realise that he's not the greatest. They just preferred him to Hillary. Now get over it.

                                                                            The problem is with the Democrats and their failure to address the issues effecting A lot of American lives.



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                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                              most brits that wanted Brexit are now so against it, knowing the things they do, they just want to remain.

                                                                              I watched the news and they asked 100´s of Brexit voters, they all said the same thing, what a nightmare, just forget leaving, forget deals...

                                                                              remain
                                                                              I'm starting to think that you're right. The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal. So staying in and destroying it's hold on Europe from the inside is the best way of freeing Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ists-democrats

                                                                              The centre parties that some foolishly believe are full of superior minds have fucked up. So time to kick them out and try a new route. My opinion is to keep the good things, Trade, cross border cooperation, etc and lose the bad things. Any government that can't decide on a single place to run from, Brussels and Strasbourg, is unfit for purpose.



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                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.

                                                                                but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.

                                                                                everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.

                                                                                on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.

                                                                                the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
                                                                                everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
                                                                                conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
                                                                                the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.

                                                                                unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they don´t do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.
                                                                                The EU was a good idea when it was the Common Market, a bloc of countries setting the same trade rules, cross border cooperation, visa rules, etc and reserved for countries with a sound economic structure. It turned bad when it became the EU and started to enlarge taking in weaker countries, giving them the vote, allowing workers to move from country to country and need welfare support from their new country.

                                                                                Cameron tried to change the rules when he renegotiated the treaty. Denied a stop to unregulated EU immigrants he turned to welfare benefits and Poland said NO. All he got was a temporary stop.

                                                                                I've linked you time and again to the problems, showing you EU stats. So no bullshit about lies. And every time you try to give a reason why Brussels and Strasbourg should rule Europe you fail to give a reasonable answer.

                                                                                Because the only changes unique to the EU are disasters. So much for you theory on we have to trust politicians and bureaucrats to get it right.



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                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                  I am not worry - but it hurts when you see that people get tricked into an election, after they voted it comes out that they got fooled and now they have to eat it.

                                                                                  the pro-brexit part is in the meantime at 35% !!!!
                                                                                  they are able to do the same voting in the parliament 4 times and still with the same result. but people that got fooled do not get a second chance to fix the mistake they did under wrong information.

                                                                                  THIS is the mess and THIS is the point where democracy does not get respected.

                                                                                  I would not say a word if polls would not tell SO CLEAR that a third of pro brexit vortes have changed their mind. and don´t forget: it was a very thin victory they had.

                                                                                  so where are here the voices to let people decide?
                                                                                  I thought THIS is what the whole thing was made for ?
                                                                                  Are you ignoring the facts? The British and other countries voted to join the Common Market. Then denied another vote on whether they wanted to join the EU or ignored when they voted the wrong way. Every 4/5 years different countries get to change their leadership. Not so with the EU until now. Previously both Centre Right and Left were in control and very much for the EU. Now a coalition of Far Right and Leave parties are set to destroy from the inside (the point of this thread) and you are very much against democracy.



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                                                                                  • MaDalton
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                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                    • 39861

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                    The EU is terrified to give the UK any sort of a decent deal.
                                                                                    Bullshit.

                                                                                    A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

                                                                                    So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

                                                                                    I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.
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                                                                                    • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 94727

                                                                                      #142

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                                                                                      • thommy
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                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 5469

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                        I am a supremacist and make no apologies for it. I believe the best will rise to the top, I believe the strongest win every time and that the weak must be seen as that and allowed and encouraged to get ahead but not given hand outs to keep them weak.

                                                                                        I am not surprised. it is an obvious thing that the dumbest clowns that aren´t good for anything think, they are the crown of creation.

                                                                                        if I send a 6 year old average intelligent african out of the bush for 10 years to school
                                                                                        he will be the supremacist in compare to you.

                                                                                        he just did not get the chance but you had it and made nothing out of it.


                                                                                        The EU would be a great union if it was reserved for the better European countries. The shame is now the bureaucrats see it as a Union for everyone with no real barriers to entry. While those smaller economic countries are allowed to trade they should not be allowed a vote in the EU, freedom of movement, Euro and not be bound by European rules other than trade rules.
                                                                                        wouldn´t it be great when china had joined the EU while it was a shithole - just a few years ago?

                                                                                        now EU can be glad when they can join a deal between ASEAN and the EU.
                                                                                        btw. ASEAN trade countries are by far the biggest market in the world.

                                                                                        to get into that as a small country you have to pay a lot of entry fees.
                                                                                        so away from the EU is not much left for britain. maybe putin will do.


                                                                                        Once you do you get a voting bloc that out weighs the votes of the economic strong countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting...European_Union this will show you the problem now and it will get worse when the UK leaves. When the smaller countries join, you're fucked.
                                                                                        as you see on this list the strong countries have the higher voting rights.
                                                                                        and you can be sure that they know that formula very well. but if you are unsure you can ask them. maybe they will give you a medal because you showed them something that they created themselves but would have forgotten without you.




                                                                                        As for the young. What young do you refer to, the Youth Unemployed or the upper middle class youth? https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-eu-countries/ a few more years and they will realise the EU has delivered nothing.
                                                                                        this is not a problem from the EU - this is a problem of the whole world and it will become worse. but i am sure britain will resolve it alone.
                                                                                        british pakistanis will be glad to help you teaching your kids how to make carpets.

                                                                                        deep inside I was willing to believe that you are not that dumb in real as you show here every fucking day. I thought in the beginning you're just acting stupid to kid all of us. but you prove again and again the hard fact that you are simply stupid.
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                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                          • Feb 2004
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by StefanG
                                                                                          Bullshit.

                                                                                          A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

                                                                                          So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

                                                                                          I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.
                                                                                          every time I ask this question these threads die...
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                                                                                          • thommy
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                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 5469

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by StefanG
                                                                                            every time I ask this question these threads die...
                                                                                            he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland.

                                                                                            he is anyway in CZ and will not be effected in any way by a border.

                                                                                            the U in UK is less worth than the U in EU.

                                                                                            thats´why these people don´t feel well in any union because it means for them that all have to do what they want.

                                                                                            they are using the word democracy but meant is dictatorship.
                                                                                            but ONLY when THEY are the dictators.

                                                                                            the only way out is to send them back to school or wait til they are sharing their thoughts with the earthworms.
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                                                                                            • Sarn
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                              he gives a shit on the problems between northern ireland and ireland...

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                                                                                              • Bladewire
                                                                                                StraightBro
                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 56228

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by StefanG
                                                                                                Bullshit.

                                                                                                A deal has been negotiated for two years and been accepted - the problem is that the DUP and enough Tories do not accept the Irish back stop. And the EU rightfully doesn't give up on that.

                                                                                                So, Paul, what is your solution to that?

                                                                                                I have asked you repeatedly and you never answered it.
                                                                                                Paul doesn't answer tough questions that require knowledge.

                                                                                                You could you give Paul a bit of knowledge today and ask him to remember it and a week from now he'll claim he doesn't know what you're talkin about.


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                                                                                                • thommy
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 5469

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sarn

                                                                                                  Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
                                                                                                  kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

                                                                                                  keep on dreaming!
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                                                                                                  • klinton
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 8766

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift

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                                                                                                    • Sarn
                                                                                                      WW3
                                                                                                      • Sep 2015
                                                                                                      • 12405

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                      Sparta has gone more than 2200 years ago.
                                                                                                      kicked ass by the Achaian League - one of the first big unions.

                                                                                                      keep on dreaming!
                                                                                                      Sparta destroy the Achaian League with help Rome



                                                                                                      Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                      150 Germans worried by Brexit + 1 drunk Ruskie on his shift
                                                                                                      Time for Poland stay independent
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