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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #76
    Originally posted by thommy
    but at the moment we can only see that 85% are NOT voting extrem right - this is the status quo and you can not change it.

    and you can repeat it again and again - post a link where ANY EU country accepts ILLEGAL immigrants - NONE of them does - also not germany.

    but I can not see why you are so unhappy - your home country did what you think is the right thing.
    so get your ass out of the EU country, where you enjoy EU-benefits and enjoy your freedom there. it is quite simple.
    Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved.

    Let me explain how democracy works.

    If the people vote for politicians dedicated to taking power away from the EU, the EU dies. The next round of MEP elections will show you the trend. 20 years ago there were no Right Wing politicians. Today there are many, even in Germany.



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    • thommy
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2003
      • 5469

      #77
      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved.

      Let me explain how democracy works.
      I think even Erdogan could explain that better than you

      If the people vote for politicians dedicated to taking power away from the EU, the EU dies. The next round of MEP elections will show you the trend. 20 years ago there were no Right Wing politicians. Today there are many, even in Germany.
      1. we have now (HOPEFULLY) a very good example what happens to a country that thinks they can do all better alone than together.
      BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.

      if there would be another brexit vote today the result would be COMPLETELY different.
      for now it look that they will stay in the EU til the next public elections. and if the new pro-EU/anti-BREXIT party will be established til than this will be the second referendum.

      2. if people take the power from their own politicians, they can also get rid of them because it does not make sense to have politicians without power.
      to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
      WHERE did this happen ever before?
      it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.

      how many times we have seen new politicians getting into power everywhere in the world and after they have been there there was nothing left than hot air. do you think this is because they are ALL corrupt? NO ! this is because they found out that things are working very different as they have expected after they looked behind the curtain and started to understand the rules of action and reaction.

      why do you think obama could not realize 10% of his ideas. why do you think trump can not fullfill a fucking promise? because they all faced the reality what people like you or other farmers in the woods of northern england never did.

      you claim to be on your right but what you say are communist slogans, do you know that?
      where in human history has it ever worked that a country is led by its stupidest?

      you haven't even managed to build a company as a porn producer that has any value. but you know how to solve the world's problems and how business works? don't you notice how ridiculous that sounds?

      if today the smartest man in the world came and claimed he could solve all the problems, he would be also the biggest liar.
      what do you call the stupidest person in the world who attributes this ability to himself?

      i would call him a thief because he robs other people with unrealistic blabbering the time you could use for realistic solutions.
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      • Sarn
        WW3
        • Sep 2015
        • 12405

        #78
        Originally posted by crucifissio
        Mass rape bullshit...immigration is a keyword red herring...the real problems are not even being addressed...


        Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
        Lol! Nah.... were not there yet... Russia’s army ranks 30th place on worlds most powerfull armies list. I mean... even the shitiest of the 29 NATO countries is more powerfull then Russia. Lol!
        some countries so stronk ))

        Originally posted by thommy
        ...
        BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.
        ...
        Putin bad

        Originally posted by thommy
        ...
        to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
        WHERE did this happen ever before?
        it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.
        ...
        not educated and hard working people - are people too))
        Peoples bad

        PS: EU good, but all leave
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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #79
          Originally posted by thommy
          I think even Erdogan could explain that better than you



          1. we have now (HOPEFULLY) a very good example what happens to a country that thinks they can do all better alone than together.
          BTW: the "HOPEFULLY" stands there because I doubt meanwhile that the UK will ever be able to make this step as they do not really know what they want and the country is splitted in extreme opposite standpoints. this is what putin wanted when he helped top spread the lies with the goal to destroy the EU.

          if there would be another brexit vote today the result would be COMPLETELY different.
          for now it look that they will stay in the EU til the next public elections. and if the new pro-EU/anti-BREXIT party will be established til than this will be the second referendum.

          2. if people take the power from their own politicians, they can also get rid of them because it does not make sense to have politicians without power.
          to establish a real democracy like the one in switzerland, it would need 2-3 generations of EDUCATED people. so how can you expect that beer bar politicians with absolutely NO CLUE about anything can handle things better? WHAT do you think would full-blooded politicians like putin or xi or even kim do with them? eat them for breakfast?
          WHERE did this happen ever before?
          it is against EVERY existing logic that an amateur can do things better than a professional.

          how many times we have seen new politicians getting into power everywhere in the world and after they have been there there was nothing left than hot air. do you think this is because they are ALL corrupt? NO ! this is because they found out that things are working very different as they have expected after they looked behind the curtain and started to understand the rules of action and reaction.

          why do you think obama could not realize 10% of his ideas. why do you think trump can not fullfill a fucking promise? because they all faced the reality what people like you or other farmers in the woods of northern england never did.

          you claim to be on your right but what you say are communist slogans, do you know that?
          where in human history has it ever worked that a country is led by its stupidest?

          you haven't even managed to build a company as a porn producer that has any value. but you know how to solve the world's problems and how business works? don't you notice how ridiculous that sounds?

          if today the smartest man in the world came and claimed he could solve all the problems, he would be also the biggest liar.
          what do you call the stupidest person in the world who attributes this ability to himself?

          i would call him a thief because he robs other people with unrealistic blabbering the time you could use for realistic solutions.
          Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved. Non-EU countries can't achieve.



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          • klinton
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2003
            • 8766

            #80
            Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
            Russia’s army ranks 30th place on worlds most powerfull armies list. I mean... even the shitiest of the 29 NATO countries is more powerfull then Russia. Lol!
            did you write this ranking by yourself ? Russia is in TOP 3 military worldwide

            wtf lol....

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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #81
              Even their strongest supporters, Thommy and Stefan, can't give a single reason for the centralist rule of the EU. Because there isn't any other than their desire to lead Europe into their version of the New World Order.

              Claiming the leaders are great thinkers, intellectuals and capable of addressing the problems of the world. In truth they're incompetent clowns. They failed on "Freedom of Movement, immigration, Crime, Euro, CAP, Corruption, etc.

              https://bankwatch.org/success-stories/eu-funds-map

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              We the people do not want nor need an organisation that runs Europe from the centre. We want our own regional governments to make and pass laws to deal with problems unique to our own country. Not some centralist bunch whose one aim is to unite the whole of Europe.

              Anyone who claims the EU has meant an end to wars in Europe is a fool or lying. We have a bigger threat from Russia, the people have no desire to go to war with our neighbours and any attempt by them would be shut down, also so long as we trade and talk there's no need.



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              • pimpmaster9000
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2011
                • 26732

                #82
                listen to high school drop out paul...he knows better than anybody who went to school and actually did business
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                • pimpmaster9000
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 26732

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  Still incapable of posting examples of what the EU has achieved. Non-EU countries can't achieve.
                  alzheimers is not allowing you to remember that he did actually answer
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                  • Sarn
                    WW3
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 12405

                    #84
                    Originally posted by crucifissio
                    listen to high school drop out paul...he knows better than anybody who went to school and actually did business
                    only liberals "highest educated" which call all stupid - lose everywhere
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                    • Sarn
                      WW3
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 12405

                      #85
                      Originally posted by klinton
                      did you write this ranking by yourself ? Russia is in TOP 3 military worldwide

                      wtf lol....
                      comrade, are you feed today combat polish nato's horse?
                      I hear combat horses it is good against hydrogen bombs
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                      • Struggle4Bucks
                        Sieg Hi!
                        • May 2011
                        • 3615

                        #86
                        Originally posted by klinton
                        did you write this ranking by yourself ? Russia is in TOP 3 military worldwide

                        wtf lol....
                        Read again and then think about what I wrote: there are 29 countries in NATO... so... think hard now... very hard.... so Russia ranks 30th on the list. Got it? Or should i explain again?
                        Half troll half amazing!

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                        • cezar78
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 333

                          #87
                          EU fuckers voted for ACTA2, i'm sure they soon will remove anonymity from bitcoin transactions and other stupid things aganist our freedom. My country should exit EU asap
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                          • P_RABID
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 514

                            #88
                            Originally posted by thommy
                            but anyway - greece is on a good way and the day is not so far when they will be a payer and not a receiver anymore.
                            That day will NEVER come, Greece is in eternal debt by the German Banks, The EU put Greece in artificial debt, making Greece borrow money with extremely high interest. As a result Greece has "sold" a large number of the countries assets for pennies on the dollar.

                            Greece will never be able to pay off these ridiculous loans and will eventually default and leave the EU under a Nationalist Right leaning Government, and by that I do not mean the racist NAZI political group "Golden Dawn".

                            The EU is a failure and a pathetic attempt to imitate the Unites States of America, The United States of Europe is never gonna happen, no member EU state is the same race of People, and do not speak the same language.

                            Basically joining the EU is like being a slave to Germany, In 2015 Greece had a Referendum vote to say not to Austerity and the overwhelming majority of Greeks votes "No", but the German Banks where not going to have this so they put Greece in severe Austerity and Capital Controls.

                            The EU and Germany had to make an example out of Greece so the rest of the low ranking EU states (Portugal, Italy, and Spain) would not step out of line.

                            Being in the EU is the same as being conquered by Hitlers Germany, only without the killing.

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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Sarn
                              only liberals "highest educated" which call all stupid - lose everywhere
                              They use the lowly educated argument to cover the fact they have no argument.



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                              • Sarn
                                WW3
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 12405

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                Read again and then think about what I wrote: there are 29 countries in NATO... so... think hard now... very hard.... so Russia ranks 30th on the list. Got it? Or should i explain again?
                                massive winning


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