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  • NewNick
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    • Mar 2009
    • 7229

    #46
    Originally posted by thommy
    what you want to proof me with that? that 85% of the europeans are NOT RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS ???

    because exactly THIS is what i can see in your links but you obviously not.
    FFS have you nothing better to do ?

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    • thommy
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      • Jun 2003
      • 5469

      #47
      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      So how did they miss Greece? Do you see how bad the EU is at keeping to it's own rules? Also if all the economies are good, why are over half the EU net receivers of funds from the other countries? https://www.cer.eu/insights/eurozone...poor-countries
      again you do not understand what the EU is.
      the example greece is a bad one as you and everybody else know that they falsificated their balance to get into the EU.

      yes that did happen but you can be sure that it will not happen a second time.

      but anyway - greece is on a good way and the day is not so far when they will be a payer and not a receiver anymore.

      the falsification of the balance had only one really bad effect, that their own growth after the 2008 crisis went to hell.

      their growth rate was at -11% and not it is at +2.1 - so you still think the EU can not do nothing for a country that is in trouble ?


      And why are these even on a list to join? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...#Summary_table

      very simple: because they are in Europe and they have a right to be in the EU as soon as they are matching the rules.

      Do you really want to see an enlargement of the countrieswho take out more than they put in? BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

      why did you not kill your daughter when she was born. she only cost you money !

      one thing that you definitely not get is that economy is a longterm thing.
      if you want a buyer you have to help him to get into a position that he CAN BUY.

      all aides we send to third world countries is an investment in the future.
      china is a good example. china is the number one buyer in the world.
      if you delete china and india from the buyers list because they are "shit holes" you can
      forget ALL economies on the fucking planet.

      Againshit at keepingtothe rules. All the refugees who left |Turkey to go to States where they get more money are illegal migrants. People fleeing war stop when they reach a safe country. Then there are the 100,000s coming from Africa.
      come one paul - why do you lie. show me ONE country in the world that says yes to ILLEGAL immigrants.

      what do you think means the word "ILLEGAL" ?????

      Yes our leaders are fucking us up. We need direct access to people who will represent the people who elect them.

      and these are people with YOUR understanding ?

      or people like boris johnson that tells people lies and after they vote for this lies he even admits that he have lied ?


      When that community is a tiny elite and not the people of the country. The results are fuck up.
      now you sound like KKK

      You still fail to give one example of something the EU has achieved that non-EU countries haven'tor can't
      you failed to read and listen - and thats why i will not reapeat it again and again.

      see your country failing - and keep in mind that the rest of europe will applaude when that happens.

      Individual rules will always apply, but they will be small things the major issues will all be under central control. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3569c-...e-7aedca0a081a
      aha and what does britain like to do?
      getting hitler elected or return to the death penalty but stay in the EU ?

      you are afraid on one hand that countries with very other world views and standards COULD POSSIBLY join the EU and on the other side you see those standards as a burden.

      WHAT EXACTLY do you want ?????

      You said a very interesting thing.

      Do you really think central government is able to resolve issues that effect different countries, cultures and economies? As far apart as Greece and Germany or the UK and Bulgaria, etc?

      you are the very best example WHY we have governments that give goals in hands of people who have the skills.

      it is funny that people who do NOT have the skills know it better.

      Your problem is keeping the EU together. Many of it's citizens are so sick of it they vote for the only option dedicated to undoing it's hold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36130006 No one is talking about doing away with the trade agreements, the cross border cooperation, visa free travel or any of the good things the EU has brought. They're simply scared of the way the centralist have taken hold.

      nope - the problem is that even in europe we still have around 20% uneducated idiots.
      you are one of them but you are the MINORITY and this is what you do not get.

      Tell us why you are still in favour of losing your democratic rights to the centre? Do Germans see it as a way of running Europe? They've had two goes at that and look where those tries took us. You run the risk of being at the mercy of small countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...#Summary_table with those countries votes out weighing the stronger nations.
      what democratic right do I lose when I can not decide with whom and it what kind of contract the EU should make deals?

      but you will be very happy when britain is able to deliver war tools to the terrorists and war countries again without someone that stop them from doing that.

      and you will be the first that complaints when the first UK citizen died from a british bomb.

      you are a dreamer and so far from reality that it is a shame for a nation to have such dumb citizens.
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      • Sarn
        WW3
        • Sep 2015
        • 12405

        #48
        Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
        You forgot about Moscow! Lol
        oh yes
        Originally posted by thommy
        it´s telling a lot that the russians are dreaming from a 3rd worldwar, isn´t it?

        now that they know that a war with germany only will eliminate 50 million russians, they want to find out the number that will come out of a war against europe or even the whole world.

        that´s the reason why i don´t drink vodka - it kills the brain cells.
        Russia always has a defensive military strategy, not attacked.
        But after the UK leaving EU, poor Poland will stay in the home alone with guys which kill 50 million civilian unarmed peoples ))
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        • thommy
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2003
          • 5469

          #49
          Originally posted by NewNick
          FFS have you nothing better to do ?

          Spending your time arguing with Paul Markham is a very serious waste of time.
          i have to admit that you are right.

          it is my weakest point that I still believe that there must be a way to teach a parrot to understand einstein´s relativity theory.

          i already teached a parrot to say it but i guess that parrot did not understand it even after many years.

          paul is my second try as he is a parrot too and just repeats what he got teached to say.
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          • CaptainHowdy
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            • Dec 2004
            • 94723

            #50
            I'm just here to see the Master Troll at work . . .

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            • thommy
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 5469

              #51
              Originally posted by Sarn
              oh yes

              Russia always has a defensive military strategy, not attacked.
              that´s only more or less correct. but you are right that russia mostly used the arm power to kill their own people.

              But after the UK leaving EU, poor Poland will stay in the home alone with guys which kill 50 million civilian unarmed peoples ))
              they can poxit too.

              but i doubt they will as the IQ balance there is quite the same as in the rest of europe.
              80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

              the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority.

              stupidity is incurable. therefore we probably have to live the rest of human history with the stupid ones.

              but education helps to keep the number small. sorry that you did not win this price.
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              • MaDalton
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                • Feb 2004
                • 39861

                #52
                Originally posted by DraX
                So you're a supporter of the German green party?

                I heard how they talk and they're more interested in immigration topics than working for a better environment.
                where did I say that? I just stated polls.

                but let me guess which party you support...
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                • Sarn
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                  • Sep 2015
                  • 12405

                  #53
                  Originally posted by thommy
                  that´s only more or less correct. but you are right that russia mostly used the arm power to kill their own people.
                  ...
                  the result of the leftist policy
                  Originally posted by thommy
                  ...
                  80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.
                  the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority
                  ...
                  ok ok you in smart majority
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                  • DraX
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 7147

                    #54
                    Originally posted by StefanG
                    where did I say that? I just stated polls.

                    but let me guess which party you support...
                    It was a question pointed at you with a question mark at the end of sentence.

                    It's psychology Stefan and how you out of the blue mentioned the green party in a favorable position. I'm not actually saying you vote on them but you at least identify yourself with them.
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                    • Sarn
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                      • Sep 2015
                      • 12405

                      #55
                      ‘Ruxit’ would be ‘blow’ similar to Brexit – Council of Europe chief

                      If Russia is forced to leave the Council of Europe around the same time the UK leaves the EU, it will have disastrous consequences for the continent, Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Thorbjorn Jagland, has warned.
                      “I believe many people do not understand what a blow it will be for Europe if we get Brexit and Ruxit at the same time. However, it can happen soon,” he told Norwegian news agency NTB, about the possibility of Russia leaving the organization this summer.

                      https://www.rt.com/news/455807-russi...europe-brexit/
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                      • MaDalton
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 39861

                        #56
                        Originally posted by DraX
                        It was a question pointed at you with a question mark at the end of sentence.

                        It's psychology Stefan and how you out of the blue mentioned the green party in a favorable position. I'm not actually saying you vote on them but you at least identify yourself with them.
                        sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

                        But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

                        but maybe that's just me.
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                        • DraX
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by thommy
                          but i doubt they will as the IQ balance there is quite the same as in the rest of europe.
                          80% smart and 20% who are too stupid to tie their own shoes.

                          the funny part is that this 20% always think that they are representations of the majority.

                          stupidity is incurable. therefore we probably have to live the rest of human history with the stupid ones.

                          but education helps to keep the number small. sorry that you did not win this price.
                          I was talking to a doctor the other day outside the persons profession and we came into discussing politics. I was mighty surprised when it was revealed the person talked about the German people as brainwashed and the news are all lies and truth twisting etc etc.

                          How does a highly educated individual voting AFD fit your stupidity narrative Thommy?

                          Originally posted by StefanG
                          sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

                          But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

                          but maybe that's just me.
                          See I was right, I couldn't care less if you vote for Green or not, but you make a wrong conclusion believing everyone voting for a right-wing party like AFD are Nazis.

                          There are consequences Stefan with your and EU's naive political stand point. Guess what? More right-wingers, more brown shirts, more nazis, more anti-establishment opinions and more anti-eu. I don't see any tries to rectify or balance the European politics, it's only a slim corridor of opinions allowed and anyone that dare to be outside this corridor of opinions are Nazis.

                          You and GFY thommy should be worried about the future of Europe.

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                          • MaDalton
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by DraX
                            I was talking to a doctor the other day outside the persons profession and we came into discussing politics. I was mighty surprised when it was revealed the person talked about the German people as brainwashed and the news are all lies and truth twisting etc etc.

                            How does a highly educated individual voting AFD fit your stupidity narrative Thommy?



                            See I was right, I couldn't care less if you vote for Green or not, but you make a wrong conclusion believing everyone voting for a right-wing party like AFD are Nazis.

                            There are consequences Stefan with your and EU's naive political stand point. Guess what? More right-wingers, more brown shirts, more nazis, more anti-establishment opinions and more anti-eu. I don't see any tries to rectify or balance the European politics, it's only a slim corridor of opinions allowed and anyone that dare to be outside this corridor of opinions are Nazis.

                            You and GFY thommy should be worried about the future of Europe.

                            This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007, she's more committed than ever:

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                            one sign of right wing delusion: people like you think they are smarter than everyone else.

                            and ps: not every AFD voter might be a nazi - but every AFD voter votes for a party that harbours and employes former members of neo nazi parties. and that is not even open for debate

                            so what does that make an AFD voter - a nazi sympathizer or just plain stupid? your choice.
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                            • Struggle4Bucks
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                              • May 2011
                              • 3615

                              #59
                              Originally posted by DraX

                              This girl was raped by 4 immigrants in the U.K. 2007
                              I was waiting for WeHatePorn to step in and inform us she did a Jussie Smollett on us, but i quess that when it comes down to conspiracies it only works the left uhhh i mean the other way around!
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                              • wehateporn
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 27176

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                I was waiting for WeHatePorn to step in and inform us she did a Jussie Smollett on us, but i quess that when it comes down to conspiracies it only works the left uhhh i mean the other way around!
                                I've never heard of him unfortunately

                                I'm non-partisan by the way and will call out any corruption wherever I find it

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