Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within?

So you're a supporter of the German green party?

I heard how they talk and they're more interested in immigration topics than working for a better environment.

^^^ Promoting Berlin as the 2nd biggest Turkish city

Folks does that sound like a German.

Berlin is already a shit hole, a multicultural hot spot with native zombie citizens and left politician idiots selling out their country piece by piece.

berlin is fine...turks are fine...the problem is you...nobody likes you

do not care about it, big towns will be burned during WW3. Berlin,London,NY etc...

I only want to destroy the Centralist Rule the EU is working towards. I want the people of Europe to have more say in who runs their country. The EU is taking that away from them.

I don't understand why you think I'm in favour of Russia. Is it the same as anti mass immigration people who are labelled as racists, even though immigration laws would apply to all races?

Or anyone who supports anything Trump wants loves Russia?

These are the types of attitudes that got Trump elected.

Can you guaranty that with the EU deciding it and no referral to the people?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=13....0.7ZWp6Ga8OOg

No you can't so don't make claims you can't back up.

Would the people of Europe allowed countries with a bad economy to join the Euro?
Would the people of Europe allowed millions of illegal migrants to come to Europe?
Would the British citizens allowed an open door migration policy which included giving EU immigrants access to welfare?

I can list a lot more examples where the people are very anti things the EU does in their pursuit to rule Europe.

Can you list things that are impossible for non-EU countries to achieve?

We can see who's right in the next EU elections.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=13...iz.iTkOoZXB_P4

Why are you and Thommy so much in favour of losing your democratic rights?

You forgot about Moscow! Lol

oh i forgot to write things without a proof is a privilege from you.

turkey is since 20 years an official candidate for the EU but this is based on a much older agreement from 1963 - the so called ankara agreement gives them the RIGHT to be a candidate.

If you would know what the EU is and know the rules of the EU you would also know that
a country with a bad economy can not join til they have a solution.

the EU rules are very clear in that.

and if you would understand the dublin contract and the geneva convention you would also know that NOBODY is wanting ILLEGAL immigrants. and as soon as they are identified as illegal they get kicked out - even in Germany.

again - read the dublin agreement that was signed by britain.
I do not want to talk about countries anymore who will be soon out from the EU because they refused to stand for what they have signed.
go with god but go.

this is an oxymoron - but you will also not understand that.
how can europe pusuit to rule europe ?

if a community agrees TOGETHER to do something it is not ruling.
you sound like a criminal who is complaining that it is not allowed to kill.

many natioanl laws can not be touched by the EU.
why do you think that german webmasters go to jail when they make a pornsite without the strict german AVS and a dutch webmaster is still free?

almost all taxes and social laws are a matter for the federal states.

most things you know as "influence of the EU" (like standards for cucumbers or bananas) where made under pressure from the agriculture of the individual countries to negotiate a price based on standards.

again: if you would take the time to read the lisbon contract and then be smart enough to understand it, then you would not even ask such stupid questions.

Your cry for the right that EU citizens have to decide each thing is a cry to make the donkey a gardener. what you want is the opposite of a government and the opposite of democracy. governments are elected to keep this work from the people that are not familiar with the complex issues.
if people like you would have the right to decide - this world would be in ashes already.

we have been shown by the brexit how little the ordinary citizens understand about the laws of the economy.
UK has voted out its own prosperity to the delight of the russians, who now have 2 big enemies dealing with so many problems that they have become incapable of action.

and this is the real sad part of all that you guys do not even see how you got brainwashed.

it´s telling a lot that the russians are dreaming from a 3rd worldwar, isn´t it?

now that they know that a war with germany only will eliminate 50 million russians, they want to find out the number that will come out of a war against europe or even the whole world.

that´s the reason why i don´t drink vodka - it kills the brain cells.

Did you read the articles in my link. Do so and then reply.

So how did they miss Greece? Do you see how bad the EU is at keeping to it's own rules? Also if all the economies are good, why are over half the EU net receivers of funds from the other countries? https://www.cer.eu/insights/eurozone...poor-countries

And why are these even on a list to join? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...#Summary_table

Do you really want to see an enlargement of the countrieswho take out more than they put in? BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

Againshit at keepingtothe rules. All the refugees who left |Turkey to go to States where they get more money are illegal migrants. People fleeing war stop when they reach a safe country. Then there are the 100,000s coming from Africa.



Yes our leaders are fucking us up. We need direct access to people who will represent the people who elect them.



When that community is a tiny elite and not the people of the country. The results are fuck up.



You still fail to give one example of something the EU has achieved that non-EU countries haven'tor can't


Neither can you. You can't give reasons for the EU to rule Europe from the centre and if you think that's not the eventual aim, you're mistaken.

Individual rules will always apply, but they will be small things the major issues will all be under central control. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3569c-...e-7aedca0a081a

You said a very interesting thing.

Do you really think central government is able to resolve issues that effect different countries, cultures and economies? As far apart as Greece and Germany or the UK and Bulgaria, etc?

Your problem is keeping the EU together. Many of it's citizens are so sick of it they vote for the only option dedicated to undoing it's hold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36130006 No one is talking about doing away with the trade agreements, the cross border cooperation, visa free travel or any of the good things the EU has brought. They're simply scared of the way the centralist have taken hold.

Tell us why you are still in favour of losing your democratic rights to the centre? Do Germans see it as a way of running Europe? They've had two goes at that and look where those tries took us. You run the risk of being at the mercy of small countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...#Summary_table with those countries votes out weighing the stronger nations.

what you want to proof me with that? that 85% of the europeans are NOT RADICAL RIGHT WINGERS ???

because exactly THIS is what i can see in your links but you obviously not.