Trump fighting tax return request. What does he have to hide?

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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #76
    Robbie sure is making a lot of excuses for Trump, meanwhile when Obama was POTUS Robbie couldn't stop finding things to complain about.. Robbie is a liar just like aimike, onehunlow, onewebcam, matt26z ect..ect.. He has no interest in debating honestly. He's a proven liar just like every single one of the other red hats. You can't point to a single Trump supporter and say that guy doesn't lie.. every single one of them lies.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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    • astronaut x
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • May 2011
      • 4844

      #77
      Originally posted by crockett
      Robbie sure is making a lot of excuses for Trump, meanwhile when Obama was POTUS Robbie couldn't stop finding things to complain about.. Robbie is a liar just like aimike, onehunlow, onewebcam, matt26z ect..ect.. He has no interest in debating honestly. He's a proven liar just like every single one of the other red hats. You can't point to a single Trump supporter and say that guy doesn't lie.. every single one of them lies.
      Robbie is a cuck no? Like for real not just joking?

      Hello

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      • crockett
        in a van by the river
        • May 2003
        • 76818

        #78
        Originally posted by astronaut x
        Robbie is a cuck no? Like for real not just joking?


        Yes a real social libertarian...
        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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        • Robbie
          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
          • Aug 2002
          • 20960

          #79
          Originally posted by VRPdommy
          It is not the NSA's job to investigate internally as in domestics, including the president. that is the FBI's job.

          And even if NSA does know something, they can't say anything unless it has been brought up by those internal investigations by the FBI. They have to ask for it in a lead to what they might be looking into in a chain of evidence with a known/suspicion of a crime. The NSA is not a prosecutor of the law.

          All of that gets more complicated because it is POTUS. For as much as we like to think he is not above the law, in many ways, POTUS is if he wishes to be.
          You are kidding right???
          Did you not keep up with Edward Snowden releasing all the info on the NSA spying on American citizens???
          WTF man.

          The NSA knows EVERYTHING. If they had ever thought Trump was a Russian spy he would have been arrested immediately.

          Those motherfuckers know what you had for dinner last night.
          -Robbie
          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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          • VRPdommy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2014
            • 13000

            #80
            Originally posted by Robbie
            You are kidding right???
            Did you not keep up with Edward Snowden releasing all the info on the NSA spying on American citizens???
            WTF man.

            The NSA knows EVERYTHING. If they had ever thought Trump was a Russian spy he would have been arrested immediately.

            Those motherfuckers know what you had for dinner last night.
            I don't have to argue the point. It is written as the law. Look it up.
            Knowing everything is not prosecuting the law. There is a procedure that they must follow.
            Part of the sequence they are currently investigating as to the legality of the special council investigation and earlier FBI investigations.
            So, you can't have it both ways. There are laws and procedures. You must have just cause to investigate. And your investigation must be tied to evidence in a chain of connecting evidence, or it stops where the chain is broken.

            You can not put pieces of different puzzles together and say they fit if they do not. Clear connection is required.

            When is the last time you seen the NSA prosecute a case against a citizen ?

            If they did not need all of this, in this way, trump would most likely be in jail, so it is a good thing in any case(and in my eyes) as much as it pains me to say that.

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            • marlboroack
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2010
              • 9327

              #81
              Why does it matter

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              • MaDalton
                I am Amazing Content!
                • Feb 2004
                • 39861

                #82
                From the mouth (or small fingers) of Trump himself:

                April 2011: “I’ll be doing my tax returns at the appropriate time. I haven’t even announced yet.”

                January 2012: “You know if you’re running, at a minimum, probably you’re gonna have to show your returns.”

                May 2014: “If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns. Absolutely. And I would love to do that.”

                February 2015: “I would certainly show tax returns if it was necessary... I have no objection to certainly showing tax returns.”

                April 2015: “I wanna tell you right now, I have no problem with giving my tax returns.”

                August 2015: “We’ll see what I’m gonna do with tax returns. I have no major problem with it, but I may tie them to a release of Hillary’s emails.”

                October 2015: “Maybe when we find out the true story on Hillary’s emails.”

                January 2016: “We’re working on that right now. I have very big returns, as you know. And I have everything all approved and very beautiful, and we’ll be working on that over the next period of time. We’re working on it right now and at the appropriate time you’ll be very satisfied.”

                February 2016: “Probably over the next few months. They’re being worked on right now. It’s very complicated stuff, but we’ll be releasing them.”

                February 2016: “I’d say over the next 3, 4 months. We’re working on them very hard and they’ll be very good.”

                February 2016: “I will absolutely give my return, but I’m being audited now for two or three years, so I can’t do it until the audit is finished. Obviously. As soon as the audit is done, I love it.”

                May 2016: “I will really gladly give them. When the audit ends, I’m gonna present ‘em. That should be before the election. I hope it’s before the election.”

                September 2016: “And when the audit’s complete I’ll release my returns. I have no problem with it. It doesn’t matter.”

                September 2016 Debate: “I will release my tax returns — against my lawyer’s wishes — when she releases her 33,000 emails that have been deleted.”
                Trump becomes president.

                April 2017: “We’ll have to get back to you on that.”
                Nothing prevents individuals from sharing their own tax returns, even while under audit from the IRS. Trump refused to provide an audit letter to prove that he’s under audit. Even Michael Cohen testified that he was unable to obtain one.

                April 2019: “Oh, no, never. Nor should they.”
                Makes me wonder who really are the ones with derangement syndrome - those who call Trump out on this or those who blindly follow that psychopathic clown.
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                • bronco67
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 29032

                  #83
                  To answer the question....

                  ONLY EVERYTHING.

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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #84
                    With all the fuss about Trump's tax returns, one would think the Democrats would be passing a law that made it mandatory for elected officials to open their books on where their money comes from.

                    But!!!



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                    • VRPdommy
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 13000

                      #85
                      At least 3 states will not allow him to appear on the ballot if he does not show them.

                      I had to think about this for a moment...
                      And I can't find a reason this would not be allowed. States get to set their voting rules by themselves and must live up to them on day of election.

                      But still I see perhaps one more SC fight.

                      In any case, I think it is a bad idea in president. But perhaps glad it will likely be tested now and know what the standard is going to be as it can be changed. But it is one of those issues the right may have problems fighting since they are always claiming states rights (when it suits them). Example being stripping states rights to regulate their interest rates for credit cards and drinking age etc.

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                      • imabro
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 871

                        #86
                        Originally posted by VRPdommy
                        At least 3 states will not allow him to appear on the ballot if he does not show them.

                        I had to think about this for a moment...
                        And I can't find a reason this would not be allowed. States get to set their voting rules by themselves and must live up to them on day of election.

                        But still I see perhaps one more SC fight.

                        In any case, I think it is a bad idea in president. But perhaps glad it will likely be tested now and know what the standard is going to be as it can be changed. But it is one of those issues the right may have problems fighting since they are always claiming states rights (when it suits them). Example being stripping states rights to regulate their interest rates for credit cards and drinking age etc.
                        What 3 states was he not on the ballot?

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                        • Rochard
                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 75733

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          Because every "reporter" from every media organization is watching everything they can find on the border wall and every last penny Trump spends on anything.

                          And again...the IRS already knows what is in his return.
                          There is a reason that politicians aren't allowed to see people's personal info.
                          That's the kind of thing done in authoritarian countries.
                          The IRS might know what is in Trump's taxes, but would have no idea if any laws were broken.

                          The IRS investigates tax fraud. The IRS does not investigate insurance fraud or bank fraud. If Trump's business collected a million dollars in a insurance claim but there was no damage, that's insurance fraud. If Trump applied for loans and made himself out to have four or five times more in assets or cash on hand compared to what he really had, that's bank fraud.

                          The IRS isn't looking into if Trump has any financial connection to any businesses that might be used to build a wall.

                          And no, this is not the kind of hing done in authoritarian countries. Every candidate in the past forty years has released their tax returns. They do this to ensure the public they do not have any conflicts.

                          What exactly is Trump hiding?

                          Newsflash for Republicans... His tax returns are coming out. Maybe not next week or next month or next year, but all of this is going to come out eventually.
                          Herschel Savage
                          Brooklyn, NY

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                          • VRPdommy
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 13000

                            #88
                            Originally posted by imabro
                            What 3 states was he not on the ballot?
                            Obviously, this has not happened yet... it was a threat for when the ballots are created.

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                            • VRPdommy
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13000

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Rochard
                              The IRS might know what is in Trump's taxes, but would have no idea if any laws were broken.

                              The IRS investigates tax fraud. The IRS does not investigate insurance fraud or bank fraud. If Trump's business collected a million dollars in a insurance claim but there was no damage, that's insurance fraud. If Trump applied for loans and made himself out to have four or five times more in assets or cash on hand compared to what he really had, that's bank fraud.

                              The IRS isn't looking into if Trump has any financial connection to any businesses that might be used to build a wall.

                              And no, this is not the kind of hing done in authoritarian countries. Every candidate in the past forty years has released their tax returns. They do this to ensure the public they do not have any conflicts.

                              What exactly is Trump hiding?

                              Newsflash for Republicans... His tax returns are coming out. Maybe not next week or next month or next year, but all of this is going to come out eventually.
                              At a minimum,
                              The way I read the law, it is legal for congress, or at least intelligence committee of the House and or Senate, to review them, but not release them to the public and commence investigations based on the findings. But eventual release of parts that lead to high crimes or misdemeanors would have to be made public. But it has to start with a reasonable suspicion of a crime to bring those tax returns into question. It requires a chain of evidence to take you to those returns.

                              But congress is using some other older statue to do the same. perhaps a little cleaner with respect to a challenge in the SC.

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                              • pimpmaster9000
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 26732

                                #90




                                Sanders told “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace that she thought members of Congress “weren’t smart enough” to understand Trump’s tax returns.

                                “This is a dangerous, dangerous road,” said Sanders. “And frankly, Chris, I don't think Congress, particularly not this group of congressmen and women, are smart enough to look through the thousands of pages that I would assume that President Trump’s taxes will be.”
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