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Bladewire 04-02-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444722)
While Democrats say "Let's import more workers to do jobs Americans would do for a higher wage.".

You're getting your parties mixed up Paul.

Republicans are the capitalists that want cheap slave labor to keep profits high. Not Democrats.

Democrats want living wages for all.

Paul would you rather have a company move overseas for cheap labor or would you like the company to stay in America and import the cheap labor? Which is better for America and the business Paul?

CaptainHowdy 04-02-2019 07:22 AM

You're the best, Paul.

Bladewire 04-02-2019 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22444735)
You're the best, Paul.


Paul Markham 04-02-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22444632)

My country has a problem with integration. Come here and see how the Roma community refuses to change to the main stream culture.

All across Eastern Europe certain cultures have kept themselves apart, why and at what price? Their are no laws here that discriminate against Roma people.

Paul Markham 04-02-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22444628)
https://66.media.tumblr.com/97b73644...vzrko1_500.jpg

Something like this Paul? Or is it too German?

This is what we risk. The only party that wants to limit immigration is the Far Right. The Centre and Left have made this situation possible and continue to ignore the problem.


Are you willing to risk more Far Right governments just so you can see your dream shattered?

Paul Markham 04-02-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22444670)
and in real life


Russia had to build a Wall to stop people leaving. Yugoslavia needed Tito to keep it together, now he's gone it broke up.

Paul Markham 04-02-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22444730)
You're getting your parties mixed up Paul.

Republicans are the capitalists that want cheap slave labor to keep profits high. Not Democrats.

Democrats want living wages for all.

Paul would you rather have a company move overseas for cheap labor or would you like the company to stay in America and import the cheap labor? Which is better for America and the business Paul?

Both parties in America are for the capitalists, so don't spin lies here.

I would prefer that imports from the 3rd world are taxed to make up for jobs they destroyed.

What if your job goes to people in the 3rd world who do it cheaper than you?

Destroying the jobs of consumers is only helping the 1%.

Struggle4Bucks 04-02-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444839)
This is what we risk. The only party that wants to limit immigration is the Far Right. The Centre and Left have made this situation possible and continue to ignore the problem.


Are you willing to risk more Far Right governments just so you can see your dream shattered?

Im not pro immigration from non-western places. What's your solution? Drink tea with them and talk?

Paul Markham 04-02-2019 01:11 PM



More proof multiculturalism doesn't work in savage, primitive and backward countries.

Struggle4Bucks 04-02-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444837)
My country has a problem with integration. Come here and see how the Roma community refuses to change to the main stream culture.

Im confused now. Do you now consider the Czech Republic as "My country"?

Yes... the Czechs consider the Roma's as a problem:1orglaugh I quess Czechs don't know what problems are... :1orglaugh

Sarn 04-02-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444938)
More proof multiculturalism doesn't work in savage, primitive and backward countries.

It works the same everywhere in every country.

Angela Merkel: German Chancellor says multiculturalism is a sham
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6773111.html

The USA started this leftist policy not so long time ago just in 1967, Europe too. Soviets were "progressive" with terror and repressions and always will break.

Anti-miscegenation laws or miscegenation laws are laws that enforce racial segregation at the level of marriage and intimate relationships by criminalizing interracial marriage and sometimes also sex between members of different races. Such laws were first introduced in North America from the late seventeenth century onwards by several of the Thirteen Colonies, and subsequently by many US states and US territories and remained in force in many US states until 1967. After the Second World War, an increasing number of states repealed their anti-miscegenation laws. In 1967, in Loving v. Virginia, the remaining anti-miscegenation laws were held to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws

Bladewire 04-02-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444633)
Your post is why I call you stupid.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=cs-...iz.XGo5pY04gVM

I can name the cities, towns and places where people are segregating themselves. Where certain communities are allowed to break the law of the US because they claim to be a separate group.

For instance how many Blacks have integrated into the dominant American culture and how many live in places like Watts? Latinos in places like East Los Angeles, Americans seem to segregate Americans better than Immigrants. But still here's an example of people integrating.



The problem with liberals is they're fooled by what the liberal media wants to spin them. People don't want to live amongst strangers, be they new arrivals or citizens for centuries. The liberals try to deny that fact, but Hamtramck proves them wrong. Polish once chose to live among Poles, now Muslims choose to live amongst Muslims once they emigrate. I'm the only Brit in my village and known as the Brit with the big crazy dog.

You keep referring to everyone not pro Trump as liberals. That's how deep your ignorance goes.

DraX 04-02-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22445034)
It works the same everywhere in every country.

Angela Merkel: German Chancellor says multiculturalism is a sham
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6773111.html

What's interesting with that link is the date. :1orglaugh

Exactly when the flood of immigrants from Middle East and Africa was at its peak. What she didn't reveal to the public was the fact she intended to continue flood Germany with more immigrants 2016 and 2017 and now it's mostly forgotten by the voters. :1orglaugh

I think she even defended her open border policies after this news piece was mentioned to the public. Only a traitor and fool speaks like that

Angela Merkel, Thommy's führer and savior :1orglaugh

Bladewire 04-02-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444845)
Both parties in America are for the capitalists, so don't spin lies here.

I would prefer that imports from the 3rd world are taxed to make up for jobs they destroyed.

What if your job goes to people in the 3rd world who do it cheaper than you?

Destroying the jobs of consumers is only helping the 1%.

You ignored everything I said and used a whataboutism to keep preaching your alt-right bullshit.

Now you say both parties are capitalists, before you said liberals are sicialists that want to pay employees too much and force businesses to go overseas for cheap labor and give everything away to everyone for free.

So yesterday we're liberal socialists and today were capitalists just like Republicans give me a fucking break dude.

Your response, yet again, shows how ignorant you are about American politics, American multiculturalism, American industry & immigration.

You try to present Europe's failure as a failure for all of the West, which it isn't, for the reasons I've explained to you at least once a week for the last two years and I'm not going to do it again Paul.

You literally say the same shit everyday and ignore proven facts.

OneHungLo 04-02-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445038)
You ignored everything I said and used a whataboutism to keep preaching your alt-right bullshit.

Now you say both parties are capitalists, before you said liberals want to pay employees too much and Force businesses to go overseas for cheap labor.

Your response, yet again, shows how ignorant you are about American politics, American multiculturalism, American industry & immigration.

You try to present Europe's failure as a failure for all of the West, which it isn't, for the reasons I've explained to you at least once a week for the last two years and I'm not going to do it again Paul.

You literally say the same shit everyday and ignore proven facts.

Yeah hey Paul, if we hand select certain people from specific multicultural backgrounds, multiculturalism works!! Except it doesn't you fucking idiot. EVERYONE self segregates when left to their own devices. Just look at prisons, churches, neighborhoods, school cafeterias.

Just look at all the problems and how divided we all are here in the US. Truth is, we were never really a melting pot. We were a country of WHITE Europeans. We were 90+% white
since the beginning of this country till about the 1980s, which let us build this country into how great it is today....but it's slowly eroding away the more diverse we get.

Bladewire 04-02-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22445045)
EVERYONE self segregates when left to their own devices. Just look at prisons, churches, neighborhoods, school cafeterias.

You're an admitted racist of course that's how you perceive things. Not based on fact though. You said you live in Massachusetts, one of the most racist shitholes in America, so it's not surprising your perceived reality is that segregation is natural. It's not like that here in California. You'll disagree. It doesn't fit the frame of hate your mind is cemented in. Interesting so many people have great lives and don't have these racial issues that you do. That's a red flag for you to realize the problem is you. Everyone else is getting along just fine.

OneHungLo 04-02-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445052)
You're an admitted racist of course that's how you perceive things. Not based on fact though. You said you live in Massachusetts, one of the most racist shitholes in America, so it's not surprising your perceived reality is that segregation is natural. It's not like that here in California. You'll disagree. It doesn't fit the frame of hate your mind is cemented in. Interesting so many people have great lives and don't have these racial issues that you do. That's a red flag for you to realize the problem is you. Everyone else is getting along just fine.

There were over 20k racial grievances filed in California last year. People are NOT getting along and you're lying.

DraX 04-02-2019 07:07 PM

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Multiculturalism remains a sham, Angela Merkel said
Okay then...:2 cents:

https://dcgazette.com/wp-content/upl...40-777x437.png

Bladewire 04-02-2019 07:15 PM

Why do Trump supporters believe all their problems are the same problems everyone else has?

Not everyone has the same racial mental defect that Trump supporters have.

Sarn 04-03-2019 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22445045)
...
Just look at all the problems and how divided we all are here in the US. Truth is, we were never really a melting pot. We were a country of WHITE Europeans. We were 90+% white
since the beginning of this country till about the 1980s, which let us build this country into how great it is today....but it's slowly eroding away the more diverse we get.

The first economy in the world monoethnic too))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
Ethnic groups:
91.51% Han Chinese
55 minorities

Paul Markham 04-03-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445036)
You keep referring to everyone not pro Trump as liberals. That's how deep your ignorance goes.

This problem goes back a lot further than Trump. So stop blaming him for problems the US has had for decades.

You said multiculturalism is fine is fine in the US. Does that include the South and areas like Chicago?

OneHungLo 04-03-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22445198)
The first economy in the world monoethnic too))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
Ethnic groups:
91.51% Han Chinese
55 minorities

And this is why the Chinese will over take the US. They know better to import diversity into their country. 91% is great. It's what we were just in the 1960s.

Plus they allow very little women in power.

https://i.imgur.com/zljd6Fo.jpg

Women fucking DESTROY civilizations. Look what those femnazis are doing to those nordic countries.

optics 04-03-2019 02:19 PM

It was never meant to succeed.

MaDalton 04-03-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 22444961)
Im confused now. Do you now consider the Czech Republic as "My country"?

Yes... the Czechs consider the Roma's as a problem:1orglaugh I quess Czechs don't know what problems are... :1orglaugh

I still expect Paul to leave CZ soon since I am pretty sure that a real Brit like him doesn't want to stay in the evil EU one day longer than necessary.


And PS for Paul: Roma in CZ are no immigrants.

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The Romani originated in northern India and arrived in Mid-West Asia and Europe around 1,000 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

Can they be annoying? yes

But so are you.

Bladewire 04-03-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22445288)
This problem goes back a lot further than Trump. So stop blaming him for problems the US has had for decades.

You said multiculturalism is fine is fine in the US. Does that include the South and areas like Chicago?

I said

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445036)
You keep referring to everyone not pro Trump as liberals. That's how deep your ignorance goes.

Your response has nothing to do that statement.

You constantly refer to anyone not pro Trump as far left liberals.

Being intellectually lazy I not seen each person who posts here as an individual. he just want to sling dog, and divide people into easily recognized pro and negative group. "If you're not with us you're against us" is the only thing you're capable of comprehending. you're not capable of distinguishing people that are with you on some things and against you on a couple other things and that's how you guys are so successful and pushing so many people away from the alt-right movement in the last 2 years it's beautiful please keep it up :thumbsup

Struggle4Bucks 04-03-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22445517)
Can they be annoying? yes

But so are you.

:1orglaugh

Well said… that basically ends the thread...

Struggle4Bucks 04-03-2019 03:33 PM

Owh wait one more thing...

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22444837)
My country has a problem with integration. Come here and see how the Roma community refuses to change to the main stream culture.

How did you Paul, change to the main stream culture of CZ? Fucking a CZ girl of course is something different then intergrating...

Rochard 04-03-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22444383)
How do you generalize an entire nation...based on the microcosm of your tiny street?

Simple. Rinse and repeat. In my hometown we don't have blacks marching against Hispanics with pitchforks in hands, and I ran into my Asian neighbor at a Mexican place the other day. In fact it's been rather calm here. The big excitement was last night when the goats got out and shut down the local freeway.... (I'm not kidding: https://www.kcra.com/article/goats-e...ncoln/27025185).

While I am sure racism still exists, I've traveled the entire country and never seen groups of people who actively discriminate against other people.

We are a melting pot.

Sly 04-03-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22445045)

Just look at all the problems and how divided we all are here in the US. Truth is, we were never really a melting pot. We were a country of WHITE Europeans. We were 90+% white
since the beginning of this country till about the 1980s, which let us build this country into how great it is today....but it's slowly eroding away the more diverse we get.

My high school United States History teacher always hated the phrase "melting pot."

He would go off on a rant about how the United States is not a melting pot at all, but more of a tossed salad.

You have your big bed of green lettuce. Then you have some cherry tomatoes. Some carrots. Some onion. Some olive. Some croutons.

Each ingredient part of the overall tossed salad, but confined in its own little unit.

Paul Markham 04-04-2019 12:23 AM

How our leaders are forcing multiculturalism onto their citizens.


Bladewire 04-04-2019 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22445766)
How our leaders are forcing multiculturalism onto their citizens.

You don't speak for Americans. You're a foreigner in Slovakia.

Focus on your own country troll.

Sarn 04-04-2019 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22445298)
And this is why the Chinese will over take the US. They know better to import diversity into their country. 91% is great. It's what we were just in the 1960s.
Plus they allow very little women in power.
Women fucking DESTROY civilizations. Look what those femnazis are doing to those nordic countries.

Liberals have found "Fall of the Roman Empire guide " and active use it:
-streams barbarians
-women "rights"


Paul Markham 04-04-2019 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445038)
You ignored everything I said and used a whataboutism to keep preaching your alt-right bullshit.

Now you say both parties are capitalists, before you said liberals are sicialists that want to pay employees too much and force businesses to go overseas for cheap labor and give everything away to everyone for free.

So yesterday we're liberal socialists and today were capitalists just like Republicans give me a fucking break dude.

Your response, yet again, shows how ignorant you are about American politics, American multiculturalism, American industry & immigration.

You try to present Europe's failure as a failure for all of the West, which it isn't, for the reasons I've explained to you at least once a week for the last two years and I'm not going to do it again Paul.

You literally say the same shit everyday and ignore proven facts.

I understand that businesses will move abroad to places with a cheaper workforce, whether they can employ illegals or not. So your point is invalid.

The solution is to tax imports from low wage countries so the cost isn't past onto the taxpayer to pay for the Welfare bills it creates.

As globalisation increases, poverty and welfare needs grow and debt increases. That's a proven fact. And it's a problem the world has to confront. China and India aren't rising to the top because it has billions of people. It's rising because because of the low wages factory workers receive.

Paul Markham 04-04-2019 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22445045)
Yeah hey Paul, if we hand select certain people from specific multicultural backgrounds, multiculturalism works!! Except it doesn't you fucking idiot. EVERYONE self segregates when left to their own devices. Just look at prisons, churches, neighborhoods, school cafeterias.

Just look at all the problems and how divided we all are here in the US. Truth is, we were never really a melting pot. We were a country of WHITE Europeans. We were 90+% white
since the beginning of this country till about the 1980s, which let us build this country into how great it is today....but it's slowly eroding away the more diverse we get.

Even today Americans will identify themselves as "Polish Americans, "Italian Americans, Black, Asian, Native Americans, etc. We hang onto our cultures, But Europeans are more likely to marry, mix, socialise, live amongst each other. Then there are the people who put their culture aside and adopt the culture of the mainstream. Obama is the best example of this.

The problems arise when large numbers, from poor, uneducated groups, want to preserve their culture and even impose it on the mainstream.

Him saying America has no problem is an indication of how blinkered he is. And I wouldn't have said anything if he hadn't denied the truth.

Paul Markham 04-04-2019 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445052)
You're an admitted racist of course that's how you perceive things. Not based on fact though. You said you live in Massachusetts, one of the most racist shitholes in America, so it's not surprising your perceived reality is that segregation is natural. It's not like that here in California. You'll disagree. It doesn't fit the frame of hate your mind is cemented in. Interesting so many people have great lives and don't have these racial issues that you do. That's a red flag for you to realize the problem is you. Everyone else is getting along just fine.

Are the people in the Youtube video I posted "Racist"?

You're a racist by applying one rule to brown people that you would deplore in white people.

Your problem is you argue with facts, you can't argue with the racist problems in the US. But you do.

Paul Markham 04-04-2019 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22445093)
Why do Trump supporters believe all their problems are the same problems everyone else has?

Not everyone has the same racial mental defect that Trump supporters have.

Why do you have to bring Trump up in a topic that has nothing to do with him?

The problems America faces with multiculturalism go a lot further back than Trump, he the result of the problems not the reason.

Why do anti-Trumpers try to blame him for everything?

Paul Markham 04-04-2019 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22445517)
I still expect Paul to leave CZ soon since I am pretty sure that a real Brit like him doesn't want to stay in the evil EU one day longer than necessary.


And PS for Paul: Roma in CZ are no immigrants.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

Can they be annoying? yes

But so are you.

Who's talking about immigrants only. You're missing the point of my thread. People living in a country for 100s of years and still not integrating, still a problem proves our politicians are wrong.


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