How can you be pro choice & against the death penalty?

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  • Bladewire
    StraightBro
    • Aug 2003
    • 56228

    #1

    How can you be pro choice & against the death penalty?


    Can someone please explain this to me? I don't get it.


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  • TheSquealer
    Mayor of Thneedville
    • Oct 2004
    • 26174

    #2
    because one is killing an innocent and one is not. how dense do you have to be to not understand the difference?
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    • Acepimp
      All Facts Matter
      • Jan 2012
      • 20309

      #3
      It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.
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      • RedFred
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2016
        • 9782

        #4
        Originally posted by TheSquealer
        because one is killing an innocent and one is not. how dense do you have to be to not understand the difference?

        So you're against killing innocent life?














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        • RedFred
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2016
          • 9782

          #5
          Originally posted by Acepimp
          It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.
          That's what they do in Iran. I knew you had it in ya.

          Asspimps idea of Utopia

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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089

            #6
            I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?

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            • Bladewire
              StraightBro
              • Aug 2003
              • 56228

              #7
              Originally posted by baddog
              I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?
              So you believe that your life started after you came out of your mom's pussy.

              So no baby is alive until after pussy initiation. Before coming out of the pussy you can kill a baby without killing a living human?


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              • Mr Pheer
                So Fucking Banned
                • Dec 2002
                • 22083

                #8
                Originally posted by baddog
                I should have known an idiot like BladeLiar would ask such a stupid question. What the fuck does pre-birth have to do with a convicted murderer?
                Because he's gay now, he has Breeder Guilt.

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                • brassmonkey
                  Pay It Forward
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 77396

                  #9
                  ending the death penalty lines government pockets
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                  • Acepimp
                    All Facts Matter
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 20309

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RedFred
                    That's what they do in Iran. I knew you had it in ya.

                    Asspimps idea of Utopia

                    4 murderers, at 50K per year each, they are saving the taxpayers 200K per year, while ensuring they never murder again. What's the problem??
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                    • Acepimp
                      All Facts Matter
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 20309

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RedFred
                      So you're against killing innocent life?
                      Yeah, a big cat is totally the same as a human baby. You're an idiot.

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                      • jezz87
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                        • Jul 2010
                        • 199

                        #12



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                        • just a punk
                          So fuckin' bored
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 32393

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Acepimp
                          It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate.
                          Have you tried to make them work?
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                          • RedFred
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 9782

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Acepimp
                            4 murderers, at 50K per year each, they are saving the taxpayers 200K per year, while ensuring they never murder again. What's the problem??
                            My Russian friend, it isn't the cost of the actual execution that drives up the cost, it is the appeals process. I'm sure as a Russian you could care less about the Constitutional rights of citizens in a country you have nothing to do with but that is the way it is.

                            Funny how you are always promoting the US to be more like Saudi Arabia or Iran. You're a closet Muslim.

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                            • k0nr4d
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 9231

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Acepimp
                              It costs $50,000 per year to house one inmate. A rope is much cheaper, we should go back to that. Now it's lethal injection which involves buying chemicals, which involves bribery / corruption in handing out the contracts. Fuck all that. Let 'em hang.
                              They'd have to buy rope somewhere too, so no different than buying chemicals. They'd probably require that it has some kind of special medical homologation or something too
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                              • RedFred
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                                • Feb 2016
                                • 9782

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Acepimp
                                Yeah, a big cat is totally the same as a human baby. You're an idiot.


                                So you're saying a clump of undeveloped cells is more important than a breathing living creature with emotions who is on the verge of extinction? You Russians are a strange bunch.

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                                • SilentKnight
                                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                                  • Oct 2005
                                  • 24818

                                  #17
                                  Another inflammatory online topic that gets beaten to the ground, goes nowhere except up in flames...changes nothing. All participants and combatants leave with the exact same mindset they came in with.

                                  Zzzzzzz.......

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56228

                                    #18
                                    This message is hidden because jezz87 is on your ignore list.

                                    Alt-right hate fake nic troll is so TRIGGERED!!


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                                    • SilentKnight
                                      Megan Fox's fluffer
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 24818

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RedFred
                                      See...this is a large part of the problem.

                                      Whenever there's work to be done in these third world countries - you always see photos of guys just hangin' around doin' nothing.

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                                      • CaptainHowdy
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 94727

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                        See...this is a large part of the problem.

                                        Whenever there's work to be done in these third world countries - you always see photos of guys just hangin' around doin' nothing.
                                        ROFL. Im out.

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                                        • Bladewire
                                          StraightBro
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 56228

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                          Another inflammatory online topic that gets beaten to the ground, goes nowhere except up in flames...changes nothing. All participants and combatants leave with the exact same mindset they came in with.
                                          I created this thread to learn from others what their mindset is, because I don't know. To me it seems contradictory but some good points have been made explaining the rationale for being pro choice & anti death penalty.


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                                          • SilentKnight
                                            Megan Fox's fluffer
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 24818

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Bladewire
                                            I created this thread to learn from others what their mindset is, because I don't know. To me it seems contradictory but some good points have been made explaining the rationale for being pro choice & anti death penalty.
                                            For many pro-choicers it comes down to not acknowledging a fetus as being sentient and therefore abortion not being regarded as murder.

                                            Therefore no contradiction - two entirely different issues.

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                                            • Acepimp
                                              All Facts Matter
                                              • Jan 2012
                                              • 20309

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RedFred
                                              it isn't the cost of the actual execution that drives up the cost, it is the appeals process.
                                              No one mentioned the appeals process. It costs about 50K per year just to keep someone in prison. Before any "appeals process" costs. Get a clue man. Simple economics. Spend 50K per year to house murderes, or execute them and save lots of taxpayer money. WHy are you defending murderers, Fred??

                                              Originally posted by RedFred
                                              So you're saying a clump of undeveloped cells is more important than a breathing living creature with emotions who is on the verge of extinction? You Russians are a strange bunch.
                                              ".... a clump of undeveloped cells ..."

                                              ^^ That's true only up to 6 weeks

                                              So you defend convicted murderers AND baby killers.

                                              Fuck off with your Russia nonsense. You look foolish (even more) with that shit
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                                              • RedFred
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2016
                                                • 9782

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                No one mentioned the appeals process. It costs about 50K per year just to keep someone in prison. Before any "appeals process" costs. Get a clue man. Simple economics. Spend 50K per year to house murderes, or execute them and save lots of taxpayer money. WHy are you defending murderers, Fred??
                                                Hey dummy, you're the one that is bitching about costs. Did your Russian handlers tell you it costs 3x more money to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life? Didn't think so.


                                                Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                ".... a clump of undeveloped cells ..."

                                                ^^ That's true only up to 6 weeks

                                                So you defend convicted murderers AND baby killers.

                                                Fuck off with your Russia nonsense. You look foolish (even more) with that shit
                                                Really? So at 7 weeks they are developed....

                                                Over 90% of abortions are performed 13 weeks or under. We're all lucky you don't live in America, you sound like you're on the verge of shooting up an abortion clinic.

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                                                • TheSquealer
                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 26174

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RedFred
                                                  So you're against killing innocent life?
                                                  First, i grew up in Alaska in a family of professional hunting guides (brown bear, among other things). I spent my childhood in those circles, with everyone trading hunts/fishing trips and traveling around and seeing everyones prized trophy rooms in their homes. I met tons of wealthy hunters who traveled the world to get all the animals on their hit list.

                                                  I knew the guy who the very last legally hunted polar bear (Don Johnson) and i've known some of the worst poachers on the planet - where plenty of wealthy hunters are quite happy to pay for world record animals like bears, moose, caribou, sheep (dalls), alaskan mountain goats etc. all happy to pay 50-100k for the chance to go shoot the animal that had already been staked out and tracked by plane. The aforementioned guy who shot the polar bear had a full stuffed African Lion in his living room, a giraffe (just from the base of the neck up) elephant foot stools, elephant tusks, a full mount zebra, brown bears,... a massive assortment of rare animals and birds and over 120 sets of walrus ivory.

                                                  I think trophy hunting is abhorrent - such as shooting an Alaska Brown Bear just for the hide, though they are harvested to control population.

                                                  I don't care who shoots what if they're going to eat it.

                                                  I'm not sure how that in your mind compares to killing a human baby... unless you want to propose giving the fetus a 5 minute head start or issuing licenses to hunt them or something.
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