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  • thommy
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    • Jun 2003
    • 5469

    #31
    Originally posted by Sarn
    World big enough for Britain find trade partners, this is true. Defacto India still №4, but USA will be №2 after Brexit - it fact too. With army - USA will help UK be near №1 World power.
    https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
    Yes I think UK will survive.
    looooool - you should become a comedian or write fairy tales for trump
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    • thommy
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      • Jun 2003
      • 5469

      #32
      Originally posted by Sarn

      THIS is exactly what i meant.

      people that are spreading hate are the problem and nothing else.

      so you can be proud to be one of these problems.
      and I'm not talking about your writing legastenie mr Briatin.
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      • babeterminal
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        • Jul 2010
        • 2751

        #33
        Michael says



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        • ianmoone332000
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          • Jun 2014
          • 1706

          #34
          This is a must read. Aint multiculturism amazing?

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...taxpayers.html
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          • thommy
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 5469

            #35
            Originally posted by ianmoone332000
            This is a must read. Aint multiculturism amazing?

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...taxpayers.html
            what have that to do with multiculturism?

            didn´t you see the names of the british helpers ?

            and don´t you think that EXACTLY the same scam was made by many many europeans too ?

            tell me HOW do you want to stop that?

            and WHY do you think this is a problem of the mussies ?

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            • Paul Markham
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              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #36
              Originally posted by thommy
              did you read that they are the BIGGEST economy?

              why should we hurt our biggest customer and deliverer for cheap parts ?

              have you done that when you was a producer?
              Have you seen the trade deficit the EU has with China? Obviously not because then you wouldn't say such stupid things.

              If harming your biggest customer was a problem, the EU would be eager to do a deal with the UK. But they have no problem with making sure the UK suffers to frighten other nations into not asking the people.

              do you know what democracy means?
              it is the vote from the majority. all what the EU does is decided by votes.
              that include UK votes. but if they want something what the rest not wants they have to accept it - THIS is called democracy.
              That isn't what I said. I said citizens of a country should choose who they are led by. So UK citizens get to decide 100% on who rules the UK. Same for every other EU Nation.


              When taken as a whole your stats may be true. The problem is with the British Working Classes. They have seen their lives devastated by open door migration.

              You so far have failed to give us one reason what the EU gives us that non-EU can enjoy. Something that's worth losing our individual democracies for. Start giving us good examples that only the EU have achieved.



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              • Paul Markham
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                • Jun 2001
                • 52942

                #37
                Originally posted by thommy
                you know the world is big and there are much more countries.

                number 2 will be replaced from india within the next 5 years.

                and this again means from china as they are already investing in all asia.

                trump kills his own economy and tries to excuse that with the chinese trade war.
                in real the imports from asia are higher than ever before. so americans trade with thailand, malaysia, india, pakistan, bangladesh and dealing with CHINESE companies there.

                you guys and your knowledge about world economy is a joke.

                what brits are doing is same as an army have a few strong guys.
                one of them wants to fight alone - and yes this makes this army a bit weaker.
                but do you really think this one guy will survive ?

                if so you are just a stupid dreamer same as paul markham.
                Now you're agreeing with me. The World is a big place and ever changing. So one unit that restricts it's members from striking trade deals with other countries is not in their best interest.

                Where is the Trade deal forcing China to buy more, something Trump achieved by issuing a threat to China. Where is the trade deal with India, the US, Brazil, all emerging Nations?

                As for the British Army standing alone. They still do this, where is the EU Army?



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                • Paul Markham
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                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sarn

                  This is what the Germans believe. They will rule Europe with the French tagging along for the ride. During all the negotiations for the original re-negotiations of the deal, then the subsequent Brexit vote Merkel was the #1 spokesperson for the EU with the French at #2. Rarely discussing with other EU leaders for their views those two led the debate.

                  Without the UK votes the balance of power shifts even more towards States who don't contribute and take out more than they put in. The contributing States will have to contribute more to appease non-contributing States. The EU is playing a risky game with losing the UK, an even riskier game if the UK market for EU goods declines.



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                  • Sarn
                    WW3
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 12405

                    #39
                    Originally posted by thommy
                    looooool - you should become a comedian or write fairy tales for trump
                    an easy task to count, try))

                    1 China 25,238.56
                    2 European Union 21,998.475
                    3 United States 20,412.87
                    9 United Kingdom 3,028.57
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_GDP_(PPP)

                    AND World Economy power
                    Largest economies by PPP GDP in 2019.
                    According to International Monetary Fund estimates


                    World Military power
                    1. Russia
                    2. USA
                    3. China
                    4. India
                    https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
                    ))

                    Originally posted by thommy
                    THIS is exactly what i meant.
                    people that are spreading hate are the problem and nothing else.
                    I know one religion of love and peace. All can join into peace and love.
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                    • Sarn
                      WW3
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 12405

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                      This is what the Germans believe. They will rule Europe with the French tagging along for the ride. During all the negotiations for the original re-negotiations of the deal, then the subsequent Brexit vote Merkel was the #1 spokesperson for the EU with the French at #2. Rarely discussing with other EU leaders for their views those two led the debate.

                      Without the UK votes the balance of power shifts even more towards States who don't contribute and take out more than they put in. The contributing States will have to contribute more to appease non-contributing States. The EU is playing a risky game with losing the UK, an even riskier game if the UK market for EU goods declines.
                      Yes all gives them so much power for economic development, but they start play empire games. Time for rebalanced power, it must work for peoples but not for ego politicians.
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                      • thommy
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                        • Jun 2003
                        • 5469

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        Have you seen the trade deficit the EU has with China? Obviously not because then you wouldn't say such stupid things.
                        proves again that you do not have a clue how business works.

                        how is the trade balance if you buy a new camera from sony and sony buys nothing from you ?

                        very negative right?

                        or how is the trade balance between the models you paid and how much did they buy from you?

                        so you can now either force sony or whatever other camera producer to buy from you or you do not buy a camera.

                        you can also force your models to buy videos from you or you will not book them.

                        is this what you want? not having a camera and not make biz with it?

                        don´t want models to produce content?

                        90% of all parts china delivers to europe are parts from goods we EXPORT.

                        if we would produce it by ourself it would be MUCH more expensive and could not compete on the market.

                        only idiots do a trade balance with their suppliers !!!!

                        in this special case the really funny part is that china buys a lot of products from the EU that INCLUDE parts we got from china.

                        If harming your biggest customer was a problem, the EU would be eager to do a deal with the UK. But they have no problem with making sure the UK suffers to frighten other nations into not asking the people.
                        you still seem to be unable to understand how world economy works.

                        the EU is a power because it units 500 million customers.
                        such a unit can not order together when each country have own standards.


                        That isn't what I said. I said citizens of a country should choose who they are led by. So UK citizens get to decide 100% on who rules the UK. Same for every other EU Nation.
                        1. they always could - they could only not make "private deals" as NO OTHER EU-country can. this is the BASE EU is build on.

                        2. they can now soon and it will be pure fun to watch the empire breaking in pieces.

                        yes it will hurt the rest of the EU too but there are still 440 million that can shoulder it.

                        When taken as a whole your stats may be true. The problem is with the British Working Classes. They have seen their lives devastated by open door migration.
                        this is the funniest part of all.
                        when the east extension of the EU came to sign germany wanted a 7-year transitional period until freedom of movement was granted.

                        and now you can guess 3 times WHO was against that and stopped this waiting periode !!!

                        britain was it !!!!!

                        so don´t blame others that they shit in your pants. the shit came from your own ass.

                        You so far have failed to give us one reason what the EU gives us that non-EU can enjoy. Something that's worth losing our individual democracies for. Start giving us good examples that only the EU have achieved.
                        before I explain it again and again - let´s watch that comedy and I will laugh and you will cry.

                        the next generation in britain will for sure not set you a monument.

                        but there will not be a way back into the EU until the last brexiteer died in his shit.
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                        • celandina
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                          • Jun 2006
                          • 11715

                          #42
                          It is all here...predicted 30 years ago..

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #43
                            Originally posted by thommy
                            proves again that you do not have a clue how business works.

                            how is the trade balance if you buy a new camera from sony and sony buys nothing from you ?

                            very negative right?

                            or how is the trade balance between the models you paid and how much did they buy from you?

                            so you can now either force sony or whatever other camera producer to buy from you or you do not buy a camera.

                            you can also force your models to buy videos from you or you will not book them.

                            is this what you want? not having a camera and not make biz with it?

                            don´t want models to produce content?

                            90% of all parts china delivers to europe are parts from goods we EXPORT.

                            if we would produce it by ourself it would be MUCH more expensive and could not compete on the market.
                            So how did Trump get China to buy more from the US? And you believe Trump isn't that good.

                            90% of the parts China exports to the EU are parts we use to manufacture in the EU. Especially things like cameras that were once made in Germany. We can produce those goods here in the West. The added cost will be minimised by lower debt and a higher wage for all.

                            only idiots do a trade balance with their suppliers !!!!
                            I stopped reading here because you are fucking clueless. No one hands over their business unless there are very good reasons. And don't us me the 1% have a good reason.

                            Given your mental superiority, what will Europe sell to China if China continues to grow?



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                            • Sarn
                              WW3
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 12405

                              #44
                              Originally posted by thommy
                              ...
                              you still seem to be unable to understand how world economy works.
                              ...
                              I will explain))

                              Russian joke:
                              Once husband and wife start thinking about how to diversify their sex life. Let's invite for our sex neighbor guy. It will be successful, fucking going one 1 hour, the second hour then another. Then the neighbor gets up and starts to leave:
                              - stop why you leave - they ask him
                              - we fucking already 4 hours, we change many sex position but I suck dick always


                              Originally posted by thommy
                              ...
                              the EU is a power because it units 500 million customers.
                              ...
                              Poland wants to leave EU
                              and greate eastern EU without Islamisation
                              analogue with Warsaw Pact without communism
                              UK can help with it))
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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #45
                                Originally posted by celandina
                                It is all here...predicted 30 years ago..

                                The EU doesn't need any help. The UK tried to get the EU to take a step back. But major EU politicians have gone on record saying nothing will stop the EU project. Not even giving Europeans a referendum.

                                Cameron was told not to have the UK referendum. Because he might lose. The EU is scared other countries will follow suit. The EU is slowly swinging to the Right. This isn't a great success story.



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