Fiddy outraged webmasters all in a row.

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PayPal confirmed that he didn’t have the funds in his account???

That’s a violation of Federal law if you disclose private personal information or fund amounts to unauthorized people. What’s in my account is nobody’s business but me and those I designate.

That in itself, if true, is reason enough to pull out of PayPal. Shit, when near death, my parents went to my local bank to remove money. They are known there but legally they couldn’t find out IF I had an account, let alone the balance. Mom went to court as my guardian to get control of my accounts, CDs, investments and safe deposit boxes. I’d given her a list before I went downhill.

I’d be at my attorney’s office if PayPal gave my information to anyone.

This will be settled eventually and the anger is understandable. But hashing it out in public won’t make it happen faster. You both learned lessons and we know who we can and can’t trust

As I have said repeatedly, this is so so unfair people being allowed to write this shit. mopek1 is a liar. He/she refers to facts. Exactly what facts are these? Facts where you can write anything you wish here?
Why would I refund the person within a couple of hours of the payment being made?
Why would I respond to his PMs from the moment he sent the PP up to the time the payment was refunded?
Why have I been active in this thread if I really wanted to disappear with this person's payment?
Why would I ruin my 16 year old account for less than £200?
Everything I have posted in this thread has been true and correct and I even contacted PP myself to find out where his refund was.

This is shit and I am done here.

The agent looked into the transactions between us. Saw everything. Then said that my refund is coming via E-CHECK. He said that in EVERY SINGLE CASE (like ours anyway), the reason for an E-CHECK is because there is not enough in the user's Paypal balance. He said that my refund would have been instant if the amount I sent was still there. So it's a matter of logic rather than disclosure.

So while he never told me exactly what Statiztics balance was, which I agree would be a violation, he told me that by looking into our accounts, by looking at the transactions, that if Statiztics had enough to cover my refund it would be instant. This is not a violation of trust as knowing that my refund is going to take 3-8 days, and knowing the refund is coming via E-CHECK, makes the information OBVIOUS to all parties that whatever I sent to him is no longer there, and that there is not enough balance in his account. This is simple logic and not disclosure of another account user's info.

Hope that clears that up.

Little advice here, Next time you make a Deal DO NOT WITHDRAW FUNDS until the deal is completed !
YOU SEEMS TO HAVE WITHDRAW FUNDS prior to complete the deal >>> VERY WRONG . As i see it echeck refunds from you to OP..... SKETCHY AS FUCK IMO .

Being a long time members on GFY dosent give you ANY notoriety. :1orglaugh WTF
I have been Scammed / Attempt to be scam in the past by many VETERAN on this board. :helpme
There is some old School Vet that still making REAL business here and i have made many deal with them. :thumbsup
But there is always that few OLD CROOK VET hanging around GFY looking for their next newbi with not much experience to get advantage of......
:2 cents:

Most of what you and I wrote are true. So we agree on most of the facts. Look back through this thread and you'll see that's the case.

Maybe because I threatened to start a PP dispute and start a thread here if you didn't refund me.

Being in this business many years, I've been scammed many times and learned many lessons. Sometimes, the scammer takes the money and is never heard from again. Sometimes, the scammer stays in contact and the PMs and emails are endless - which serves to reassure the person being scammed until they give up ... or ... serves to put up a false front which will hopefully fool the person being scammed that the money has disappeared and nobody knows where it was ... a glitch perhaps.


1- You have a reputation to try to salvage that goes back 16 years.

2- It is a tactic. Again, some people lay low and stay silent hoping it goes away and no more attention is put on them than is necessary. Other people express outrage and fight hard ("I did not have relations with that woman").

I bought traffic from a GFY user that was all fake. I posted in his thread that it was all fake traffic. He denied and fought hard and is still selling to this day. I can show you the thread if you like. That is the tactic he chose, denial and to constantly fight anyone who says otherwise. But, my host company, telling me that the reason why my sites were down was because of a massive spike in China, bot traffic did nothing to change his tactic.

Desperation is my guess. Thinking you could easily get away with it is perhaps another.

Everything you posted is true. Except for one tiny omission and one fact.

And you don't need to contact PP to see where my refund is? I told you, it is on it's way.

You continually repeat things that I don't disagree with. Probably to shift attention from the things that I do disagree with.

You keep saying that yet you keep posting even when I am no longer talking to you or saying anything new.

Hey Statiztics
 

You dont care about your GFY user name...... So much it is or was for sale :2 cents:

You tried to sell this GFY user name Statiztics and old business link to this user name since 2017.

https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/1...ars-sales.html

" Im a member of GFY since 16 years bla bla bla BULLSHIT " = sketchy AS FUCK TBH :2 cents:

Is People like you that ruin the VET reputation on this board with shit like this. Being a long time members dosen't make you an angel in 2019.

Agreed. In my opinion, if he were legit, he wouldn't try defending himself so much. If Refund is supposed to be processed on the 22nd and he were confident it would happen, he would just tell the other guy to chill and that's it.

However, since he is here adamantly defending his "reputation" over something that can't be resolved before the 22nd, then that leads me to believe he might have some other hustles going on.

That's just my impression though and I might be wrong. Maybe on the 22nd the refund will be finalized and all of this back and forth will be for nothing.

Seems like "Brian mike" just answered that question above. Not long ago you were trying to sell it, so it's importance to you has obviously declined.

Not quite.

Whether the refund happens or not is irrelevant at this point.

What is relevant is that Statiztics told me that he received my payment via Paypal, but that he couldn't access the funds.

I asked for a refund and he initiated one. The refund is due in 8 days. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

If he couldn't access my funds then the refund should have been instant. Paypal's website confirmed that. Paypal's agent told me over the phone that if the funds were still in his account that the refund should have been instant. The agent told me that the refund is coming via an E-CHECK which could only mean one thing ....

... that the funds are coming from Statiztics bank account, NOT his Paypal account balance.

That means he lied. He DID have access to my funds but either withdrew the funds to his bank account or used them to make a payment for something else.

This means he was telling me a made up story so that he didn't have to send me the Paxum as part of our deal.

This is the main issue.

I hope OP will get his refund!!

any news, updates?
Its one of those Mondays! :)

Lil bump for a full refund . . .

I think it's pretty clear, if this transaction is proven to be fraud, that the original owner sold his username to the guy now commiting fraud with it. Again, IF this is proven to be fraud :2 cents:

Well this user cici131421 apparently purchased it. I say apparently because he said he sent Statiztics the cash but never got the domain or account. He even called him a scammer but Statiztics replied back and said let's iron it out. Then nothing after that.

Mopek contact cici131421 and try to sort it out. He was active yesterday.

I think CICI can have tried to bought sites NOT the user name :2 cents: !
Thats why i think CICI got scam by the same dude statistic at certain point.
Made some past deal with CICI like many on this board and cici is good people in my book.

Yeah possibly, but I'm wondering if it got resolved. Someone should message him and have him chime in here.

Any update on this ?

Either his e-check will clear and he's not a scammer or it bounces on the 22nd and he is a scammer.

Good to know thanks :thumbsup

Purchase date
Mar 14, 7:39 AM

Refund requested
Mar 14, 10:01 AM

Refund was declined
Mar 20, 4:30 AM


Refund was cancelled. My money is gone ....

Fuck . . .

Sorry to hear that man :(

What's the status of your dispute?

I guess I was right. What he did was text book scamming 101. Hope nobody else got scammed in the meantime.

I've heard nothing yet.

I also don't see my dispute there anymore. Meaning no open cases. It's possible they didn't think it important enough, or a valid dispute (since they couldn't prove anything was sent to anyone as this was a digital transaction).

In any case, my lesson learned.

Did you post his Paxum and PayPal account for the search engines?

It's a shame... they :costumed13 strike again ..

Got any info on the dude? Post up what you have. Message the other guy (cici131421) that got burned by him and see what he has.

This! Post up everything you got.

Sorry to ssee this shit happen.

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Just playing devils advocate here as I have some experience with PayPal, business and money.
You are correct in saying that if they are unable to refund instantly then they have withdrawn the money and would need to refund from a bank account.
It does not mean they were intentionally scamming you.

The refund was declined.

He was scammed

If he did withdraw it to his bank account, then why did he tell me he doesn't have access to the money?

I understand you are playing devil's advocate though.

Thanks for the support from you and everyone else in this thread.

I won't post his personal info. I don't want to start a war, and I have other things to move on to. I don't want to spend any more energy and time on this.

I did want to post this though so that anyone else here on GFY can look back and see this thread and be warned if they are about to do business with him. It's a good enough consequence for his actions.

But thanks again everyone.

Leaving this guys info isn't an act of war. It's expected when you scam someone. What info you have is probably fake anyways :2 cents:

Quite possibly so. Which would only waste more time.

He can switch usernames faster than he can switch PayPal and Paxum accounts. I would appreciate it if you could post that information so we could find it in the fuure when he uses another username to try and scam Someone Like You. Also, he started the war when he scammed you.

He caught my attention before with some type of scammy gaming shit he was doing. Like he would take your money and place bets with it and give you a cut of the winnings..or something ridiculous like that. Obviously my spidey senses were right.

I smell that scamming piece of Cris Butler is back, same defensive attitude and brutality, red lines all over. He is a rat and comes out of his hole from time to time to steal some food from this industry.

Yes, you're done here indeed. Now you need to buy a new nick again and act out your incredible rotten attitude here. I sincerely hope you get hit by a truck and slip in a nice coma.

Dont you think he has blown his right for privacy and it would help people from being scammed?? I am pretty sure you are in your right to warn us from him and post his info. He should be responsible for his actions.