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  • thommy
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 5469
    #101
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    Ask them if they would pay for a Mercedes when BMW is giving away cars for free. Or even Free Skodas. Ask them if they will pay 100% for a Mercedes and 30% for a BMW.

    Pornhub could never sell memberships in the same ratios Paysites did. Because the quality isn't good enough, but the free option wins hands down. This doesn't apply to only porn, it applies to all products.

    Only a few avenues give away the product for free because it's effect on sales. TV Channels were free, now Netflix, HBO, etc are on the rise and more are coming in. Because their product isn't given away. The best example is Sports, how many big sporting events are free vs those on PPV?
    loool - how dumb are you ?

    can you copy a mercedes or a BMW without any costs ?

    NO !!!!!

    the product you are talking about can be copied a trillion times without any extra costs.

    so if this product is sold 1000 times for 10 dollar or 100 million times for 0,005 what makes the bigger revenue at the end ????

    go and get a calculator and find someone that can use it and you see the reality.
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      • AdultKing
        Raise Your Weapon
        • Jun 2003
        • 15601
        #102
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Neither are you as you never produced content. So shut the fuck up.
        Yeah actually I am because I have made money and still make money from good content. I don't make money from yours anymore because it hasn't stood the test of time. It's filler content at best to pad out my tubes where it's given to people for free.

        If you're qualified, show us your best single piece of content and let people who make money from content daily in 2019 tell you all about it.

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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942
            #103
            thommy
            This message is hidden because thommy is on your ignore list.

            I'm sick to death with replying to your nonsense. Buddhists are killing people, Newspaper revenues are down, people will prefer a fucking free brunette to a fucking $300 blonde.



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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942
                #104
                Originally posted by AdultKing
                Yeah actually I am because I have made money and still make money from good content. I don't make money from yours anymore because it hasn't stood the test of time. It's filler content at best to pad out my tubes where it's given to people for free.

                If you're qualified, show us your best single piece of content and let people who make money from content daily in 2019 tell you all about it.
                I produced and sold content to publishers and consumers for over 30 years. Putting content onto free tubes doesn't compare with you qualifications.

                As you said 10 year old content and older is not worth much today. But to a few they can still make money from it. See signature.

                I told everyone golden rules in selling, free will always beat paid for when considering like for very similar. That applies if one is selling content or what ever you care to name. If Paysites were a #1 for you in revenue, you wouldn't be bothering with Tubes. Your failing is that you can't run a paysite or sell content. You can only give it away for free. That by your own admission is the level of your skills.



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                  • AdultKing
                    Raise Your Weapon
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 15601
                    #105
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    I produced and sold content to publishers and consumers for over 30 years. Putting content onto free tubes doesn't compare with you qualifications.
                    You did it when there was virtually no competition, when I was buying content from you in the early 2000s affordable content was not as widespread as today.

                    If you started over today you wouldn't have the skills or the knowledge or the talent to get eyeballs.

                    All of us at some point in our career will reach a point where we're done unless we work to upgrade our skill set all of the time. Unfortunately you didn't.

                    There are a couple of people in this thread making far more money today than in the early 2000s that you think are the golden years of Internet porn. Free to watch porn has made many people richer because of the number of eyeballs it brings.

                    Note I used the term 'free to watch' because in reality none of it is free, that content is funded by advertising or other methods. You just don't seem to be able to grasp that concept, it's foreign to you.


                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    Your failing is that you can't run a paysite or sell content.
                    What makes you think that? You have no idea what I own and don't own. Neither do most people on GFY because no serious business is done here anymore.

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                      • thommy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 5469
                        #106
                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                        thommy
                        This message is hidden because thommy is on your ignore list.

                        I'm sick to death with replying to your nonsense. Buddhists are killing people, Newspaper revenues are down, people will prefer a fucking free brunette to a fucking $300 blonde.
                        glad to hear that.
                        finally no dumb old baby will quote me and comment with BS.

                        btw. you should block everyone that does not agree with your dumbfuck. than you can write alone.
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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942
                            #107
                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                            You did it when there was virtually no competition, when I was buying content from you in the early 2000s affordable content was not as widespread as today.

                            If you started over today you wouldn't have the skills or the knowledge or the talent to get eyeballs.

                            All of us at some point in our career will reach a point where we're done unless we work to upgrade our skill set all of the time. Unfortunately you didn't.

                            There are a couple of people in this thread making far more money today than in the early 2000s that you think are the golden years of Internet porn. Free to watch porn has made many people richer because of the number of eyeballs it brings.

                            Note I used the term 'free to watch' because in reality none of it is free, that content is funded by advertising or other methods. You just don't seem to be able to grasp that concept, it's foreign to you.

                            What makes you think that? You have no idea what I own and don't own. Neither do most people on GFY because no serious business is done here anymore.
                            I didn't start in 2000. So fuck you on this.

                            The magazine market, my #2 earner with videos being #1, was very competitive.

                            I upgraded my skills from taking/selling photos to magazine front covers.

                            Anyone making more money than people did in the 2000s. Is lying.

                            I understand about the funded by advertising, what are you paid per click and what is the CTR? Don't tell me it's more than I made selling sets. Because that's stupid. You would need a boat load of traffic to achieve that. So if you say you do, show us your Tubes and we can see how well they do. or everyone reading this will brand you the same as thommy. A loud mouth with time to waste trolling me.

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                            https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=92178

                            Considering all the posts you make and the time, you don't seem retired to me.



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                              • AdultKing
                                Raise Your Weapon
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 15601
                                #108
                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                Anyone making more money than people did in the 2000s. Is lying.
                                That's the funniest and most ridiculous thing I have ever seen you say and you say a lot of ridiculous things.

                                I understand about the funded by advertising, what are you paid per click and what is the CTR? Don't tell me it's more than I made selling sets. Because that's stupid. You would need a boat load of traffic to achieve that. So if you say you do, show us your Tubes and we can see how well they do. or everyone reading this will brand you the same as thommy. A loud mouth with time to waste trolling me.
                                Nobody and I mean nobody with legit business is going to post their sites on GFY, a surfer forum where no real business is done. I can *guarantee* you that I make more money now than I did when I was buying your sets in the early 2000s and that was a lot of money then.

                                https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=92178

                                Considering all the posts you make and the time, you don't seem retired to me.
                                That's not my real timezone for a start, however I do work or not work at odd hours.

                                I am retired in the sense that I can stop doing all this tomorrow and continue to live comfortably for the rest of my life. I have projects I enjoy and keep working on them, I also enjoy the extra income. That said, I am not on the clock, not waiting for my next cheque and both my partner and I live a very comfortable lifestyle. I do what I want, when I want to, how I want to.

                                Mate, you're living proof of what happens when you become unplugged and out of touch, I don't ever want to be like you.

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                                  • thommy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 5469
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                                    That's the funniest and most ridiculous thing I have ever seen you say and you say a lot of ridiculous things.



                                    Nobody and I mean nobody with legit business is going to post their sites on GFY, a surfer forum where no real business is done. I can *guarantee* you that I make more money now than I did when I was buying your sets in the early 2000s and that was a lot of money then.



                                    That's not my real timezone for a start, however I do work or not work at odd hours.

                                    I am retired in the sense that I can stop doing all this tomorrow and continue to live comfortably for the rest of my life. I have projects I enjoy and keep working on them, I also enjoy the extra income. That said, I am not on the clock, not waiting for my next cheque and both my partner and I live a very comfortable lifestyle. I do what I want, when I want to, how I want to.

                                    Mate, you're living proof of what happens when you become unplugged and out of touch, I don't ever want to be like you.

                                    give up with this troll.

                                    he knows fuck nothing and can not stand that so many people have been smarter than he is (what is not really hard).

                                    if he is not able to male money - NOBODY is able to make money.

                                    he is just a poor old fart who thinks his stupidity is the measure of all things.

                                    i've never seen anyone take him seriously.

                                    actually i know that you do not really write to him (same as i never did that). but he just represents the compressed stupidity of the world in a single body and then you always have the impression that you are talking to all the stupid people in this world at once.
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                                      • AdultKing
                                        Raise Your Weapon
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 15601
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by thommy
                                        give up with this troll.


                                        My biggest failing is that I cannot resist the urge to call out stupid people

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                                          • thommy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 5469
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by AdultKing


                                            My biggest failing is that I cannot resist the urge to call out stupid people
                                            i know - i have the same problem.

                                            but the difference between a uneducated and a stupid is, that the uneducated WANTS to learn the stupid expects that you learn from him.
                                            so the first one is worth it the second means wasting your lifetime for a life that is already wasted.
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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942
                                                #112
                                                Back to the subject.

                                                The next big thing has to be something no one can copy, give away, pirate, etc. This is the problem with a bar for entry so low that practically anyone can jump in and take part.

                                                There may be new big things for the online industry, the reality is there will be very few big things the individual or small company can cash in on. The reasons are simple. Roughly speaking, offline businesses need to pay $5 - $50 a square foot for space, servers cost cents on the dollar. Added to that are all the people offering services online. From CMS to white label sites, all to add to the growing number of suppliers to a limited number of consumers.

                                                What was the last big thing in porn that made everyone a lot of money? Or even just a lot of people a lot of money.



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                                                  • AdultKing
                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 15601
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                    The next big thing has to be something no one can copy, give away, pirate, etc. This is the problem with a bar for entry so low that practically anyone can jump in and take part.
                                                    The low bar to entry for online porn was 1995 to 2005 or thereabouts. Now to make money there's a relatively high bar to entry whether that be a big investment in time or money, invention or innovation. The days you could set up a porn site in the morning and be making sales in the afternoon are gone forever. And that's a good thing.

                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                    What was the last big thing in porn that made everyone a lot of money? Or even just a lot of people a lot of money.
                                                    Are we communists now?

                                                    Why is something in porn supposed to make everyone a lot of money?

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                                                      • jscott
                                                        jscizzle
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 25411
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by thommy
                                                        i know - i have the same problem.
                                                        but the difference between a uneducated and a stupid is, that the uneducated WANTS to learn the stupid expects that you learn from him.
                                                        so the first one is worth it the second means wasting your lifetime for a life that is already wasted.
                                                        Sir Thommy the great! The epitome of intelligence & reason

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                                                          • thommy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 5469
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by jscott
                                                            Sir Thommy the great! The epitome of intelligence & reason

                                                            What year did you graduate from Harvard again?
                                                            What year are you gonna start elementary school in?
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                                                              • Nicky
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 30071
                                                                #116
                                                                I just added magic join links to my cable company, waiting for success.

                                                                gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 15601
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                    I just added magic join links to my cable company, waiting for success.
                                                                    I wish you great success but make sure you share that success with everyone because we're all communists now and Paul thinks that the next big thing in porn is supposed to....

                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                    make everyone a lot of money? Or even just a lot of people a lot of money.

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                                                                      • NatalieK
                                                                        Natalie K
                                                                        • Apr 2010
                                                                        • 20106
                                                                        #118
                                                                        I´ve said on another similar thread, asking "the next big thing"...

                                                                        personally for me it´s customs, people love customs...

                                                                        this could work for affiliates too, maybe using blogs, a landing page or links page to models filming customs, as long as you get a 50/50 cut, it´s worth it huh!
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                                                                          • AdultKing
                                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 15601
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                            I´ve said on another similar thread, asking "the next big thing"...

                                                                            personally for me it´s customs, people love customs...
                                                                            Customs have been around forever....

                                                                            .... when I think of the next big thing I'm thinking megabucks not a few shekels from customs.

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                                                                              • Bladewire
                                                                                StraightBro
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 56228
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                The days you could set up a porn site in the morning and be making sales in the afternoon are gone forever.
                                                                                Wrong

                                                                                You're not a content creator with your own sites. You have no idea what you're talking about. And that's a good thing.


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                                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 15601
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                    Wrong

                                                                                    You're not a content creator with your own sites. You have no idea what you're talking about. And that's a good thing.
                                                                                    I was in 1995 - 2004 and am again now.

                                                                                    As I said to Paul, you don't know what I own or don't own.

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                                                                                      • Bladewire
                                                                                        StraightBro
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 56228
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                        I was in 1995 - 2004 and am again now.

                                                                                        As I said to Paul, you don't know what I own or don't own.
                                                                                        You are just like Paul

                                                                                        You fail at doing it so say it can't be done. I love it

                                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                        The days you could set up a porn site in the morning and be making sales in the afternoon are gone forever.
                                                                                        Wrong!


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                                                                                          • AdultKing
                                                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 15601
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Bladewire.. where to begin with you?

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                                                                                              • Bladewire
                                                                                                StraightBro
                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                • 56228
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by ilnjscb
                                                                                                stop fighting - you're making our step-daughter cry

                                                                                                Someone invent robots already


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                                                                                                  • cordoba
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2010
                                                                                                    • 1363
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Back to the subject.

                                                                                                    The next big thing has to be something no one can copy, give away, pirate, etc. This is the problem with a bar for entry so low that practically anyone can jump in and take part.

                                                                                                    There may be new big things for the online industry, the reality is there will be very few big things the individual or small company can cash in on. The reasons are simple. Roughly speaking, offline businesses need to pay $5 - $50 a square foot for space, servers cost cents on the dollar. Added to that are all the people offering services online. From CMS to white label sites, all to add to the growing number of suppliers to a limited number of consumers.

                                                                                                    What was the last big thing in porn that made everyone a lot of money? Or even just a lot of people a lot of money.
                                                                                                    I made quite a bit of money from 3d porn, but it obviously didn't last very long, and it was largely because I didn't have much competition. Then I made a bit of money from VR at the beginning (a lot of it still not paid by Naughty Revenue), but that seems to be going the same way as 3D only with hundreds of affiliates still jumping on it daily as the 'next big thing'.

                                                                                                    Some here have made a few really good comments about AI and 'deep fake' style tech being the next big thing. The problem with that is that to me it promises to be the next big torrent/free tube style thing that will be the final nail in the coffin for the industry. Once this tech gets perfected and the software easy to download and use, why would the average punter choose to pay to watch a pornstar be animated into various sex scenes and fantasies when it will be easy just to take a Facebook photo of his crush or his best friend's wife and animate her? Obviously 'deepfake porn' is already being subjected to restrictions (banned on Reddit) and legislation is being talked about in the UK, but still, it's going to be hard to stop really.

                                                                                                    The only thing that will certainly continue to be profitable is webcams, but the problem here is that the new tech which might make it even more profitable - remote 'haptic' sex etc, will probably drive forward calls to classify cam work as prostitution, which is getting more and more regulated or banned pretty much everywhere.

                                                                                                    As far as the 3d modelling and animation is concerned there is a really interesting software platform called 'virt-a-mate' which seems to be improving very rapidly - https://twitter.com/VirtAMate/status...14468976910336

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                                                                                                      • NatalieK
                                                                                                        Natalie K
                                                                                                        • Apr 2010
                                                                                                        • 20106
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                        Customs have been around forever....

                                                                                                        .... when I think of the next big thing I'm thinking megabucks not a few shekels from customs.
                                                                                                        well if it´s bigger bucks, we´re trying to set up a porn series, similar to a main stream tv show "come dine with me"...

                                                                                                        we want to do orgies though. Like a parody, 5 couples, 5 nights of the week, each night they do their own orgy and the others rate it out of 10...

                                                                                                        I reckon swingers will love it and if we film everything, it will be full hardcore for porn lovers.

                                                                                                        ATM, we´re just working out the best way of setting it up, advertising, cash flow, the swinger couples need paying and we´ve not really got the essential start up yet, so wondered about doing a gofundme and offer the free pilot on dvd, being part of the series and maybe name in credits on one of them for huge donations...

                                                                                                        anyway, no matter what the new next thing is, VR will continue to climb, that´s our next move with some of the vids on my site
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                                                                                                          • AdultKing
                                                                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                            • 15601
                                                                                                            #127

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                                                                                                              • cordoba
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Feb 2010
                                                                                                                • 1363
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                I didn't really rate sex robots as being the future of adult entertainment, but then I saw this recently : https://twitter.com/loveMISSDOLL/sta...42101138182144

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                                                                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                    • 15601
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by cordoba
                                                                                                                    I didn't really rate sex robots as being the future of adult entertainment, but then I saw this recently : https://twitter.com/loveMISSDOLL/sta...42101138182144
                                                                                                                    That tech is only going to get better and better.

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                                                                                                                      • Nicky
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                        • 30071
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                        I wish you great success but make sure you share that success with everyone because we're all communists now and Paul thinks that the next big thing in porn is supposed to....




                                                                                                                        I made 400 new cable-sales already, actually make that 4000. I love magic.

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                                                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                            • 52942
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            The last big thing in porn was Tubes. Giving away whole scenes in their 100,000s to sell clicks at $5 a 1,000. Lost more money than it made.

                                                                                                                            The idea that anyone with "the next big thing" is going to share it on GFY before it's launched and established is bizarre.

                                                                                                                            The idea that the next big thing isn't a money making idea for someone, is bizarre. You're not in this for the fun.

                                                                                                                            There are loads of people here who are all positive, until it's their money on the line. With nothing to lose they don't care if it flies or fails.



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                                                                                                                              • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                • 15601
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                The last big thing in porn was Tubes. Giving away whole scenes in their 100,000s to sell clicks at $5 a 1,000. Lost more money than it made.
                                                                                                                                How do you think Tubes keep operating if it's a money loser? Servers, network infrastructure, server admins, marketing, everything else all costs a lot of money.


                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                What was the last big thing in porn that made everyone a lot of money? Or even just a lot of people a lot of money.
                                                                                                                                Since when did shit have to make everyone a lot of money, this isn't communism Paul.


                                                                                                                                Can someone put Paul out of our misery. Clueless peasant.

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                                                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                    How do you think Tubes keep operating if it's a money loser? Servers, network infrastructure, server admins, marketing, everything else all costs a lot of money.




                                                                                                                                    Since when did shit have to make everyone a lot of money, this isn't communism Paul.
                                                                                                                                    Who said Tubes lose tube owners a lot of money?

                                                                                                                                    No it's capitalism and the essence of capitalism is to make a profit.

                                                                                                                                    Can someone put AK out of our misery. Clueless peasant.



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                                                                                                                                      • huey
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 3955
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        I think the next big thing is already here. Sharp web cam models doing custom shoots for individual customers. With all the access surfers get to models via social media sharp models I know making 5 figures a month with low overhead. Problem is it cuts out majority of webmasters.
                                                                                                                                        opinions are like assholes.................


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                                                                                                                                          • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 15601
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                            Who said Tubes lose tube owners a lot of money?
                                                                                                                                            you did

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                            The last big thing in porn was Tubes. Giving away whole scenes in their 100,000s to sell clicks at $5 a 1,000. Lost more money than it made.
                                                                                                                                            as for peasants, I made $14k and change today, how much did you make?

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                                                                                                                                              • NatalieK
                                                                                                                                                Natalie K
                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                                                • 20106
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                I made $14k and change today, how much did you make?
                                                                                                                                                turn over or profit?

                                                                                                                                                not sure hot much you´ve got to pay out for each day, just interested and well done, either way
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                                                                                                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 15601
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                                                                    turn over or profit?
                                                                                                                                                    Good question, ask my accountant I dunno.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                        you did
                                                                                                                                                        No I didn't and you even posted what I said. Do I need to explain it to you in baby talk?

                                                                                                                                                        I made $20,000 today. Do you see how easy that was to type?

                                                                                                                                                        So you're not retired and a liar. Gotya.



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                                                                                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 52942
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                                                                            turn over or profit?

                                                                                                                                                            not sure hot much you´ve got to pay out for each day, just interested and well done, either way
                                                                                                                                                            Anyone boasting about what they made in a day is either lying or doesn't make much other days.

                                                                                                                                                            Where are all the sites AK made the money from, where is the proof? I know he wants to keep it all big secret from us.



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                                                                                                                                                              • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 15601
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                I made $20,000 today. Do you see how easy that was to type?
                                                                                                                                                                Yeah difference is I licensed a bit of my music to an ad company for a TV ad at $14.2k and you didn't do shit.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • NatalieK
                                                                                                                                                                    Natalie K
                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                                                                    • 20106
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah difference is I licensed a bit of my music to an ad company for a TV ad at $14.2k and you didn't do shit.
                                                                                                                                                                    you create your own music? I´d be interested in a small piece for our previews or at least our showcase preview...

                                                                                                                                                                    maybe a bit d&b with a chilled out vibe
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                                                                                                                                                                      • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                        Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 15601
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                                                                                        you create your own music? I´d be interested in a small piece for our previews or at least our showcase preview...

                                                                                                                                                                        maybe a bit d&b with a chilled out vibe
                                                                                                                                                                        I’ve never made music for porn and I am very selective where my tracks can be used. In general a non exclusive license for any of my tracks for mainstream commercial use starts at $10k for approximately 30 seconds and if it’s being used in something distributed (other than say in a limited run advertisement) then there’s mechanical licensing fees to pay on top of that.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • NatalieK
                                                                                                                                                                            Natalie K
                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                                                                            • 20106
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                            I’ve never made music for porn and I am very selective where my tracks can be used. In general a non exclusive license for any of my tracks for mainstream commercial use starts at $10k for approximately 30 seconds and if it’s being used in something distributed (other than say in a limited run advertisement) then there’s mechanical licensing fees to pay on top of that.
                                                                                                                                                                            omg, and you´re still in adult?? lol... sounds like the music biz is where it´s at
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                                                                                                                                                                              • thommy
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 5469
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by huey
                                                                                                                                                                                I think the next big thing is already here. Sharp web cam models doing custom shoots for individual customers. With all the access surfers get to models via social media sharp models I know making 5 figures a month with low overhead. Problem is it cuts out majority of webmasters.
                                                                                                                                                                                this is also nothing new. exists since internet is existing.

                                                                                                                                                                                and have never been a big thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                i don´t know if you guys don´t have a multiplication key on your calculators or if you don´t know how to use it.
                                                                                                                                                                                there was never a "big thing" going on where you can know all your customers personally.
                                                                                                                                                                                this is amateur mickey mouse biz but not a "big thing".

                                                                                                                                                                                actually there where only 3 "big things" that made a big group happy:

                                                                                                                                                                                1. cams (in the start it was a real bomb)
                                                                                                                                                                                2. dialers (worked a few years but endet as a big rippoff)
                                                                                                                                                                                3. mobile subscriptions (see 2.)

                                                                                                                                                                                away from that everything what made a bigger group a live was free stuff. TGPs, MGPs and later tubes.

                                                                                                                                                                                in opposite to TGPs and MGPs the tubes have a much bigger market as they never focused on promoting just porn and they mostly don´t try it with affiliate stuff as there is a huge market with professional buyers that can make much more out of the traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                                the big new thing will only be the realization that the market still works according to good old rules.
                                                                                                                                                                                Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
                                                                                                                                                                                www.trafficfabrik.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 15601
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                                                                                                    omg, and you´re still in adult?? lol... sounds like the music biz is where it´s at
                                                                                                                                                                                    I do this only a few times a year.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't understand people who think there can only be a single source of income for people. I make money from lots of things I do or have done in half a century. I have some of things I do now and some of things I no longer do that pay me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • gorillaz_
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2014
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 361
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                                                                                                                                        you create your own music? I´d be interested in a small piece for our previews or at least our showcase preview...

                                                                                                                                                                                        maybe a bit d&b with a chilled out vibe



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                                                                                                                                                                                          • cordoba
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1363
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                                            With NVIDIA's face synthesis AI you can generate as many faces as you like, all different, once the model is trained, set up and running.

                                                                                                                                                                                            As technology develops and this becomes possible for video, speech and real time interaction the cost becomes no greater than the platform upon which it runs, because you will have infinite generational capacity from the AI.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Once this stuff becomes real and not simply in the realm of research then you won't need to get $3 - $4 per minute. The companies that successfully bring these things to market will only need to get cents per minute (I don't even think per minute charging would apply - it would be another billing model).
                                                                                                                                                                                            I guess of all the posts in this thread, yours was probably closest to the mark.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • NatalieK
                                                                                                                                                                                                Natalie K
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 20106
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by cordoba
                                                                                                                                                                                                I guess of all the posts in this thread, yours was probably closest to the mark.
                                                                                                                                                                                                aye about right, or should I say AI about right
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