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crockett 01-26-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404885)
Guess you haven't lost a good friend to an illegal alien and don't give a shit about those that have?

Imagine how all the people feel who have lost someone they knew to a deranged right winger nutter like you..

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22404875)
As a German: Walls only work if you are willing to use deadly force defending them. Any eastern German would have been happy getting arrested if only they made it to western Germany. The fact they would be potentially shot trying to cross the wall kept most from trying.

Are you willing to shoot people trying to cross whatever fence or wall you'd be putting up?

After what I loss, sure, hell I'll shoot you if you try to cross. I was told in the military I would be good at that.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404847)
I have a better idea. Let's spend that .008 percent of the budget on something that matters... Such as raises for teaches, police officers, and firemen, and feeding our vets.

There is no reason to spend $6 billion on a wall that isn't needed.

Maybe you should think bigger, like the savings from the resources used by illegal aliens could fund all that, but you would rather spend that on people from other countries than our vets?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404871)
They have 440 miles of wall there. Trump's wall is only 550 miles. if Israel can do it, so can we.

I used transducers in the Navy they would work just fine and they wouldn't need very many of them. Average submarine has over 1,000 on it, would need way less in the ground to detect them.

bronco67 01-26-2019 05:10 PM

Here's some math for you.

Your dad's sperm + your mom's egg = zero.

Rochard 01-26-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22404879)
We currently have 700 miles of border wall and pay $4 Billion a year to employ 20,000 border agents.

With an additional 500 miles of wall we'll need another 20,000 border agents and increase the spending to $8 Billion a year.

We'll need to build more facilities for the border agents as well.

We also need to take hundreds of miles of property owned by Texans via eminent domain. The reason most if the border wall ends at the Texas border , well, think about it, I know Trump hasn't...

What we really need to do is properly fund the Border Patrol. The biggest problem we have right now is no one wants to work for the Border Patrol. It's a crappy job. We need to pay Border Patrol agents A LOT more. No one wants to move to a little desert town in the middle of no where. Not only do we need to pay them more, we need to build small towns where they can live - sort of like military bases.

I mean... If we can build tent cities to lock up kids... Why can't we build something for Border Patrol agents?

Make the job much more attractive.

MaDalton 01-26-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404892)
After what I loss, sure, hell I'll shoot you if you try to cross. I was told in the military I would be good at that.

You really need to stop drinking.

directfiesta 01-26-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404731)
He wants to add .008 percent to the budget, the only reason that the Dems can't have that happen is because they can't let him have another win, you know like an economy that even Obama is trying to get credit for and the scotus appointments? This is not about the wall, it's a pissing contest for the Democratic party and keeping a campaign promise for the president. Again, the Democratic party said a wall is immorral and a waste of money, the shutdown that they could have ended at anytime cost more than the wall itself, which is immorral? Or is keeping a campaign promise that got him elected immoral? Having a president that keeps promises , the Democratic party can't have that!

He promised Mexico was paying for it...
Why do you always leave that out ???

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22404897)
Here's some math for you.

Your dad's sperm + your mom's egg = zero.

Is that what your family put on the t shirt they gave you?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22404910)
He promised Mexico was paying for it...
Why do you always leave that out ???

Guess you didn't hear about the new trade agreement or the fact that the Mexicans are pissed at the caravan people?

NoWhErE 01-26-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404885)
Guess you haven't lost a good friend to an illegal alien and don't give a shit about those that have?

You do realize that one guy shooting your friend doesn't mean that ALL immigrants are bad? If it had been a white redneck, would you be singing the same tune?

crockett 01-26-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404913)
Guess you didn't hear about the new trade agreement or the fact that the Mexicans are pissed at the caravan people?

You mean NAFTA 2... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

...but this timew the exact same trade agreement is better because Capt MAGA did it..

OneHungLo 01-26-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22404922)
You do realize that one guy shooting your friend doesn't mean that ALL immigrants are bad? If it had been a white redneck, would you be singing the same tune?

You people are now conflating illegals with legal immigrants. Good lord.

And yes, all illegals are bad, especially the ones who murder US citizens.

BaldBastard 01-26-2019 07:45 PM

Why didn’t Republicans provide the funds while they ruled Capitol Hill? Surely it was top of the priority list? or was that just bowing to their larger donors?
They has two years to get it passed.. but nadda
And why now, after Democrats too the house has it become an "National Crisis"
If your too stupid to work that one out, then really you shouldn't vote at all, because you've been clucked and brainwashed by fake news like.. Murdoch entertainment channels.

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Israel has on average shot and killed 50 people a year trying to cross their wall, and that's only what they HAD too report, actual numbers will be much higher, I doubt that's a selling point to most Americans

astronaut x 01-26-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404904)
What we really need to do is properly fund the Border Patrol. The biggest problem we have right now is no one wants to work for the Border Patrol. It's a crappy job. We need to pay Border Patrol agents A LOT more. No one wants to move to a little desert town in the middle of no where. Not only do we need to pay them more, we need to build small towns where they can live - sort of like military bases.

I mean... If we can build tent cities to lock up kids... Why can't we build something for Border Patrol agents?

Make the job much more attractive.

I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

The odds of being killed by an illegal alien is less then getting bit by a shark. Its less then getting struck by lightning. I mean the odds are so low, some of the shit that has a higher chance are just comical. You have a higher chance of getting killed by your clothes. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a wild animal.

Rochard 01-26-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404811)
https://i.imgur.com/pOJMXrm.png

Too bad walls work.

Can you imagine the angst politifact tackled having to put that "Mostly True" label on that statement?

No, the wall doesn't work. Every week Israel is finding tunnels dug under the walls.

How do people not understand this? It's a wall. You can go over it, under it, or through it. Republicans are using the walls Israel have built as an example and it's a very bad example.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404959)
No, the wall doesn't work. Every week Israel is finding tunnels dug under the walls.

How do people not understand this? It's a wall. You can go over it, under it, or through it. Republicans are using the walls Israel have built as an example and it's a very bad example.

Put sensors under it, people like me a BMG 50 on top, problem solved

Rochard 01-26-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22404941)
I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404962)
Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Drones are not going to stop anyone, all you have to do is rush the border at 50 different places. Geez, get in the game

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22404941)
I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

The odds of being killed by an illegal alien is less then getting bit by a shark. Its less then getting struck by lightning. I mean the odds are so low, some of the shit that has a higher chance are just comical. You have a higher chance of getting killed by your clothes. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a wild animal.

Guess my best friend beat the odds

ruff 01-26-2019 09:46 PM

Why does anyone waste their time on this idiots thread?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22404936)
Why didn’t Republicans provide the funds while they ruled Capitol Hill? Surely it was top of the priority list? or was that just bowing to their larger donors?
They has two years to get it passed.. but nadda
And why now, after Democrats too the house has it become an "National Crisis"
If your too stupid to work that one out, then really you shouldn't vote at all, because you've been clucked and brainwashed by fake news like.. Murdoch entertainment channels.

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Israel has on average shot and killed 50 people a year trying to cross their wall, and that's only what they HAD too report, actual numbers will be much higher, I doubt that's a selling point to most Americans

They were busy fixing the economy that Obama fucked up, did you hear China wants to spend a trillion dollars over a few years to balance the trade Imbalance?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22404965)
Why does anyone waste their time on this idiots thread?

They don't have lives, I do, but get bored and love to fuck with twatwaffles!

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404962)
Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Democrats don't want border protection , if they did they would stop offering them things like free health care to get more to come here. And sanctuary cities to give them more rights than citizens! Get real Richard

Rochard 01-26-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404963)
Drones are not going to stop anyone, all you have to do is rush the border at 50 different places. Geez, get in the game

You have no clue.

The Border Patrol is using drones all the time. It's very effective. It's the only way to patrol thousands of miles of border. In fact, they use Predator drones.

https://gizmodo.com/u-s-border-patro...r-t-1829323612

This is a huge part of the problem. Republicans just don't seem to understand what is really happening at the border. You want to build a wall and you think that just fixes the problem. It doesn't. They will over the wall, under the wall, or through it. This is why they use drones. The drone sees a dozen people crossing the border, they track them, and dispatch Border Patrol agents to round them up.

We have walls, fences, and barriers. We still use drones and we still have to patrol. Building a wall doesn't fix the problem.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404977)
You have no clue.

The Border Patrol is using drones all the time. It's very effective. It's the only way to patrol thousands of miles of border. In fact, they use Predator drones.

https://gizmodo.com/u-s-border-patro...r-t-1829323612

This is a huge part of the problem. Republicans just don't seem to understand what is really happening at the border. You want to build a wall and you think that just fixes the problem. It doesn't. They will over the wall, under the wall, or through it. This is why they use drones. The drone sees a dozen people crossing the border, they track them, and dispatch Border Patrol agents to round them up.

We have walls, fences, and barriers. We still use drones and we still have to patrol. Building a wall doesn't fix the problem.

Arm the drones, that will stop them , until then, we need a wall. An unarmed drone only tells agents that someone is there, it doesn't stop anybody!

Rochard 01-26-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404973)
Democrats don't want border protection , if they did they would stop offering them things like free health care to get more to come here. And sanctuary cities to give them more rights than citizens! Get real Richard

No one gets free healthcare.

Democrats offered up an additional $1.4 billion for border security. This is on top of the countless billions we already spend. Why are we spending additional billions for border protection when illegal immigration is down?

There is no sudden surge, and what we have in place is obviously working. We have walls. We have fences. We have barriers. We have drones. We have helicopters. We even have agents on horses. And boats. It's under control.

Obama deported more illegals than any other president. And he did it without having to arrest people at their kid's schools and without having to separate parents from their kids.

http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-conten...ttotal_new.png

Republicans are making this into something it isn't.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:09 PM

Who said it was just a wall, no one . Obama didn't deport more than any president, I'll bet you 100 dollars cash against that right now. Obama changed the way it was counted to make himself look better. Why, he only has to sell it to twatwaffles and they will believe anything

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:23 PM

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...402-story.html

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:52 PM

As far as healthcare, you haven't been keeping up, governor Newsom is working on getting just that, free healthcare for illegal immigrants

bronco67 01-27-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404990)

No...the LA Times is misleading. It's a conservative rag no better than The NY POST. And you're their target audience. Stupid Fox News watching fuckwads who are at the end of their lives with rotting brains.

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22405069)
No...the LA Times is misleading. It's a conservative rag no better than The NY POST. And you're their target audience. Stupid Fox News watching fuckwads who are at the end of their lives with rotting brains.

How is it misleading? I live in LA, nothing here is conservative, where do you get that idea or are you just so full of hate and prejudice that if it doesn't agree with you it's wrong?

RedFred 01-27-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405000)
As far as healthcare, you haven't been keeping up, governor Newsom is working on getting just that, free healthcare for illegal immigrants


Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405096)
Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

I have healthcare both paid for and via the VA, I doubt you make more money than I will this year! You're talking out your ass again!

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:00 AM

https://cis.org/Report/Deportation-Numbers-Unwrapped. Here's a report that talks about just how fucked up the immigration got under Obama giving green cards to criminals from countries that wouldn't take them back!

RedFred 01-27-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405099)
I have healthcare both paid for and via the VA, I doubt you make more money than I will this year! You're talking out your ass again!

So you already get free health care. Well at least you got that going for ya! :thumbsup

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405096)
Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

Why is it that when I debate anything and you always lose, you resort to personal attacks? Are you that shallow? Is it to make up for a little dick like buying a Porsche? Like you could ever afford one of those! Lmao

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405102)
So you already get free health care. Well at least you got that going for ya! :thumbsup

I'm a veteran, all veterans have it, or are you bashing veterans? I also have it thru UHC

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:04 AM

You know you can buy a don't be a twatwaffle shirt and coffee mug?

RedFred 01-27-2019 09:17 AM



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