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NoWhErE 01-26-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404885)
Guess you haven't lost a good friend to an illegal alien and don't give a shit about those that have?

You do realize that one guy shooting your friend doesn't mean that ALL immigrants are bad? If it had been a white redneck, would you be singing the same tune?

crockett 01-26-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404913)
Guess you didn't hear about the new trade agreement or the fact that the Mexicans are pissed at the caravan people?

You mean NAFTA 2... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

...but this timew the exact same trade agreement is better because Capt MAGA did it..

OneHungLo 01-26-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22404922)
You do realize that one guy shooting your friend doesn't mean that ALL immigrants are bad? If it had been a white redneck, would you be singing the same tune?

You people are now conflating illegals with legal immigrants. Good lord.

And yes, all illegals are bad, especially the ones who murder US citizens.

BaldBastard 01-26-2019 07:45 PM

Why didn’t Republicans provide the funds while they ruled Capitol Hill? Surely it was top of the priority list? or was that just bowing to their larger donors?
They has two years to get it passed.. but nadda
And why now, after Democrats too the house has it become an "National Crisis"
If your too stupid to work that one out, then really you shouldn't vote at all, because you've been clucked and brainwashed by fake news like.. Murdoch entertainment channels.

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Israel has on average shot and killed 50 people a year trying to cross their wall, and that's only what they HAD too report, actual numbers will be much higher, I doubt that's a selling point to most Americans

astronaut x 01-26-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404904)
What we really need to do is properly fund the Border Patrol. The biggest problem we have right now is no one wants to work for the Border Patrol. It's a crappy job. We need to pay Border Patrol agents A LOT more. No one wants to move to a little desert town in the middle of no where. Not only do we need to pay them more, we need to build small towns where they can live - sort of like military bases.

I mean... If we can build tent cities to lock up kids... Why can't we build something for Border Patrol agents?

Make the job much more attractive.

I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

The odds of being killed by an illegal alien is less then getting bit by a shark. Its less then getting struck by lightning. I mean the odds are so low, some of the shit that has a higher chance are just comical. You have a higher chance of getting killed by your clothes. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a wild animal.

Rochard 01-26-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22404811)
https://i.imgur.com/pOJMXrm.png

Too bad walls work.

Can you imagine the angst politifact tackled having to put that "Mostly True" label on that statement?

No, the wall doesn't work. Every week Israel is finding tunnels dug under the walls.

How do people not understand this? It's a wall. You can go over it, under it, or through it. Republicans are using the walls Israel have built as an example and it's a very bad example.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404959)
No, the wall doesn't work. Every week Israel is finding tunnels dug under the walls.

How do people not understand this? It's a wall. You can go over it, under it, or through it. Republicans are using the walls Israel have built as an example and it's a very bad example.

Put sensors under it, people like me a BMG 50 on top, problem solved

Rochard 01-26-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22404941)
I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404962)
Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Drones are not going to stop anyone, all you have to do is rush the border at 50 different places. Geez, get in the game

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22404941)
I have a buddy who is a border patrol agent and he makes a decent living. The problem is health care. If one of these guys needs any sort of tests done, they will be waiting 6 months or more. BTW, he says we need more agents and we need to spend money on technology, not a wall. A wall doesn't stop the flow of drugs, and a wall is not going stop illegals from getting in. He said he is not concerned about them going over the wall, but they will go under it and they will claim amnesty. Half of all illegals enter the country legally and over stay their welcome. A border wall is not going to stop that.

The odds of being killed by an illegal alien is less then getting bit by a shark. Its less then getting struck by lightning. I mean the odds are so low, some of the shit that has a higher chance are just comical. You have a higher chance of getting killed by your clothes. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a wild animal.

Guess my best friend beat the odds

ruff 01-26-2019 09:46 PM

Why does anyone waste their time on this idiots thread?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22404936)
Why didn’t Republicans provide the funds while they ruled Capitol Hill? Surely it was top of the priority list? or was that just bowing to their larger donors?
They has two years to get it passed.. but nadda
And why now, after Democrats too the house has it become an "National Crisis"
If your too stupid to work that one out, then really you shouldn't vote at all, because you've been clucked and brainwashed by fake news like.. Murdoch entertainment channels.

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Israel has on average shot and killed 50 people a year trying to cross their wall, and that's only what they HAD too report, actual numbers will be much higher, I doubt that's a selling point to most Americans

They were busy fixing the economy that Obama fucked up, did you hear China wants to spend a trillion dollars over a few years to balance the trade Imbalance?

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22404965)
Why does anyone waste their time on this idiots thread?

They don't have lives, I do, but get bored and love to fuck with twatwaffles!

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404962)
Seems to me Border Patrol agents make about $50k a year. Some quick research says it goes up to $90k. That doesn't begin to compensate them for what they do. Average way for a police officer is $62k.

Democrats want border protection too, but they want it done properly. Not a blanket statement of a "wall" and done. Why build a wall when a fence is just as effective and one fifth the price?

Democrats don't want border protection , if they did they would stop offering them things like free health care to get more to come here. And sanctuary cities to give them more rights than citizens! Get real Richard

Rochard 01-26-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404963)
Drones are not going to stop anyone, all you have to do is rush the border at 50 different places. Geez, get in the game

You have no clue.

The Border Patrol is using drones all the time. It's very effective. It's the only way to patrol thousands of miles of border. In fact, they use Predator drones.

https://gizmodo.com/u-s-border-patro...r-t-1829323612

This is a huge part of the problem. Republicans just don't seem to understand what is really happening at the border. You want to build a wall and you think that just fixes the problem. It doesn't. They will over the wall, under the wall, or through it. This is why they use drones. The drone sees a dozen people crossing the border, they track them, and dispatch Border Patrol agents to round them up.

We have walls, fences, and barriers. We still use drones and we still have to patrol. Building a wall doesn't fix the problem.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22404977)
You have no clue.

The Border Patrol is using drones all the time. It's very effective. It's the only way to patrol thousands of miles of border. In fact, they use Predator drones.

https://gizmodo.com/u-s-border-patro...r-t-1829323612

This is a huge part of the problem. Republicans just don't seem to understand what is really happening at the border. You want to build a wall and you think that just fixes the problem. It doesn't. They will over the wall, under the wall, or through it. This is why they use drones. The drone sees a dozen people crossing the border, they track them, and dispatch Border Patrol agents to round them up.

We have walls, fences, and barriers. We still use drones and we still have to patrol. Building a wall doesn't fix the problem.

Arm the drones, that will stop them , until then, we need a wall. An unarmed drone only tells agents that someone is there, it doesn't stop anybody!

Rochard 01-26-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404973)
Democrats don't want border protection , if they did they would stop offering them things like free health care to get more to come here. And sanctuary cities to give them more rights than citizens! Get real Richard

No one gets free healthcare.

Democrats offered up an additional $1.4 billion for border security. This is on top of the countless billions we already spend. Why are we spending additional billions for border protection when illegal immigration is down?

There is no sudden surge, and what we have in place is obviously working. We have walls. We have fences. We have barriers. We have drones. We have helicopters. We even have agents on horses. And boats. It's under control.

Obama deported more illegals than any other president. And he did it without having to arrest people at their kid's schools and without having to separate parents from their kids.

http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-conten...ttotal_new.png

Republicans are making this into something it isn't.

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:09 PM

Who said it was just a wall, no one . Obama didn't deport more than any president, I'll bet you 100 dollars cash against that right now. Obama changed the way it was counted to make himself look better. Why, he only has to sell it to twatwaffles and they will believe anything

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:23 PM

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...402-story.html

Vendzilla 01-26-2019 11:52 PM

As far as healthcare, you haven't been keeping up, governor Newsom is working on getting just that, free healthcare for illegal immigrants

bronco67 01-27-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404990)

No...the LA Times is misleading. It's a conservative rag no better than The NY POST. And you're their target audience. Stupid Fox News watching fuckwads who are at the end of their lives with rotting brains.

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22405069)
No...the LA Times is misleading. It's a conservative rag no better than The NY POST. And you're their target audience. Stupid Fox News watching fuckwads who are at the end of their lives with rotting brains.

How is it misleading? I live in LA, nothing here is conservative, where do you get that idea or are you just so full of hate and prejudice that if it doesn't agree with you it's wrong?

RedFred 01-27-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405000)
As far as healthcare, you haven't been keeping up, governor Newsom is working on getting just that, free healthcare for illegal immigrants


Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405096)
Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

I have healthcare both paid for and via the VA, I doubt you make more money than I will this year! You're talking out your ass again!

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:00 AM

https://cis.org/Report/Deportation-Numbers-Unwrapped. Here's a report that talks about just how fucked up the immigration got under Obama giving green cards to criminals from countries that wouldn't take them back!

RedFred 01-27-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405099)
I have healthcare both paid for and via the VA, I doubt you make more money than I will this year! You're talking out your ass again!

So you already get free health care. Well at least you got that going for ya! :thumbsup

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405096)
Brett given your disposition in life I would think anything you can get your hands on for free would be met with great joy.

Why is it that when I debate anything and you always lose, you resort to personal attacks? Are you that shallow? Is it to make up for a little dick like buying a Porsche? Like you could ever afford one of those! Lmao

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405102)
So you already get free health care. Well at least you got that going for ya! :thumbsup

I'm a veteran, all veterans have it, or are you bashing veterans? I also have it thru UHC

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:04 AM

You know you can buy a don't be a twatwaffle shirt and coffee mug?

RedFred 01-27-2019 09:17 AM


Bladewire 01-27-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405105)
I'm a veteran, all veterans have it, or are you bashing veterans? I also have it thru UHC

You use socialized medicine and support Trump :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I bet your socialist social security is ok with you as well, you just don't think anyone else should have it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22404922)
You do realize that one guy shooting your friend doesn't mean that ALL immigrants are bad? If it had been a white redneck, would you be singing the same tune?

Conjecture much? It wasn't was it?

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405109)

You know the Dali Lama can't even live in his own country and has to depend on the kindness of others to survive, hardly someone to take advice from

Vendzilla 01-27-2019 09:55 AM

So redfred, are you bashing veterans now?

Bladewire 01-27-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405134)
So redfred, are you bashing veterans now?

Prove you are a veteran.

Trump supporters are notorious lying racists.

King Mark 01-27-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22404965)
Why does anyone waste their time on this idiots thread?

What else is there to do?

This is the fun thing to do on GFY now.

Rochard 01-27-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404981)
Who said it was just a wall, no one .

Are you serious? That was his number one campaign promise. "I am going to build a great wall". He had crowds chanting "build a wall" over and over again. He didn't say "We are going to build a fence" and he didn't say "We are going to put up more vehicle barriers" or "We are going to hire more Border Patrol agents" or "We are going to buy more drones at our southern border" and he surely did not say "We are gong to invest more money into technology to protect our southern border".

The Democrats offered up over a billion dollars to invest money in technology for the southern border and Trump not only turned it down, abut also shut down the government.

The vast majority of illegals come to the United States through ports of entry. Building a wall isn't going to change anything. We have walls where walls are needed, we have fences where fences are needed, and we have vehicle barriers where those are needed. If we take money from where it is needed (protecting our ports of entry) and put it where it is not needed (the wall) we are doing more harm then good, and making us less safe. More illegals will be able to sneak through ports of entry.

Building a wall will not fix the problem.

Rochard 01-27-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405101)
https://cis.org/Report/Deportation-Numbers-Unwrapped. Here's a report that talks about just how fucked up the immigration got under Obama giving green cards to criminals from countries that wouldn't take them back!

LOL. That's a blog made by someone in their parent's basement that does nothing but distort the truth.

Look at the front page: https://cis.org/. Completely biased.

If you want to debate, then use facts, not biased websites with bullshit reports.

King Mark 01-27-2019 10:21 AM

Vendzilla is acting like a bitch. That's a female trait, to think with emotion over logic. The only other people who think like him are the bloods and the crips: "oh he killed one of mine, let's kill all theirs".

How does it feel to have the mind frame of a feminine gang banger?

King Mark 01-27-2019 10:22 AM

Even worse, vendz buddy was killed in a car accident. Wasn't shot or anything. But he wants to gang bang on them lol guns and everything.

We ain't dumb. You a racist that was looking for any little excuse to justify it.

RedFred 01-27-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405134)
So redfred, are you bashing veterans now?

Washing dishes on a submarine hardly makes you the representative of every veteran....TWATWAFFLE

:1orglaugh

RedFred 01-27-2019 10:36 AM

White House Doctors Unsure When Pelosi’s Foot Can Be Removed from Trump’s Rectum


King Mark 01-27-2019 10:38 AM

^^^lmao...

Rochard 01-27-2019 12:05 PM

Surprise. More tunnels discovered in Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/d...i-town-n962591

2MuchMark 01-27-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22405102)
So you already get free health care. Well at least you got that going for ya! :thumbsup

:thumbsup:1orglaugh:thumbsup:1orglaugh



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405103)
Why is it that when I debate anything and you always lose,

Wrong. You have lost each of the last 10 debates that you started. GFY Search is your friend.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405103)
you resort to personal attacks?

You started it, dumbass:

- Your title of this thread is your attempt to insult anyone that doesn't agree with you.

- Your 2nd post patronized Dead Eye offering a valid response to your question.

- You then insulted him in your 3rd post. (Because, I assume, you were too slow to think about doing it in the previous post?

- You insulted Dead Eye again here

Get my point?


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404896)
I used transducers in the Navy they would work just fine and they wouldn't need very many of them. Average submarine has over 1,000 on it, would need way less in the ground to detect them.

LOL! You fail at Submarine Technology. Your idea would not work. How embarrassing for you.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404913)
Guess you didn't hear about the new trade agreement


The trade agreement does not pay for the wall. You are wildly misinformed. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/is...through-usmca/


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404978)
Arm the drones, that will stop them

Give weapons to robots to shoot women and children who need your help because you're afraid of brown people. Got it.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22404981)
Obama didn't deport more than any president, I'll bet you 100 dollars cash against that right now.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obam...ry?id=41715661

Please donate my $100.00 to someone you scammed from your Hillary Clinton 2016 Affiliate Program https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...e-program.html

MaDalton 01-27-2019 12:50 PM

Ironic that those that bashed Obama for using drones against terrorists in Afghanistan now want to arm drones to shoot people on US turf.

and for the record: I disapprove of using drones to kill people under any circumstances

actually I disapprove of killing in general.

Rochard 01-27-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22405216)
Ironic that those that bashed Obama for using drones against terrorists in Afghanistan now want to arm drones to shoot people on US turf.

and for the record: I disapprove of using drones to kill people under any circumstances

actually I disapprove of killing in general.

Freaking insane isn't it?

tony286 01-27-2019 02:18 PM

illegal immigration has been dropping for years. Also if Vend and the others really want it to cut down to nothing. They wouldn't be screaming for a wall, they would be screaming for a law that if you hire an illegal you go right to fucking jail. I would bet 95 percent of them come here for work, no work no coming here. That's why its been dropping because of less work here for them. But Trump says nothing about actions against people who hire these illegals because its all bullshit for his followers to swallow up likes the word of god. The man hired illegals all the time. Illegals built trump tower because you can fuck them and there is nothing they can do.

Yes Vend Obama deported more than any before him, the Latin orgs called him out calling him the deporter in chief. I know its tough, to face the truth because cheeto jesus said different.

Rochard 01-27-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22405241)
illegal immigration has been dropping for years. Also if Vend and the others really want it to cut down to nothing. They wouldn't be screaming for a wall, they would be screaming for a law that if you hire an illegal you go right to fucking jail. I would bet 95 percent of them come here for work, no work no coming here. That's why its been dropping because of less work here for them. But Trump says nothing about actions against people who hire these illegals because its all bullshit for his followers to swallow up likes the word of god. The man hired illegals all the time. Illegals built trump tower because you can fuck them and there is nothing they can do.

Yes Vend Obama deported more than any before him, the Latin orgs called him out calling him the deporter in chief. I know its tough, to face the truth because cheeto jesus said different.

They can't make laws that throw you in jail if you hire illegals. First up would be Trump, who seems to have a long history of hiring illegals to work for his hotels and golf courses.

I am all for this. Let's make some strict laws...
1) Hire an illegal, one year in prison. Do it a second time, two years in prison. Third time, four years in prison. Fourth time... Ten years in prison.
2) Get caught in the United States illegally.... One year in prison. Do it a second time, two years in prison. Third time, four years in prison. Fourth time... Ten years in prison.
3) Want to claim asylum? Great. Go to one of our embassies. Don't enter the United States illegally; We will arrest you and put you in prison.
4) Want to become a United States citizen? Fill out the paperwork and go through the steps. I helped someone do this once; It's not difficult. Do it legally.

RedFred 01-27-2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22405133)
You know the Dali Lama can't even live in his own country and has to depend on the kindness of others to survive, hardly someone to take advice from

You're thinking of this guy



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