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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #1

    Mexico will pay for the wall...

    That's what he said, over and over and over.. it appears Trump thinks Americans are Mexicans now...

    A added side effect of the shutdown is Everify a system set in place to allow employers to check the legal status of a new hire is closed down..

    In states like Arizona its required by state law to use everify and now its shut down so employers cant hire anyone with out breaking the law...

    LoL stupid Chump...
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  • pimpmaster9000
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    • Dec 2011
    • 26732

    #2
    Trump and his gangster talk...
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    • RedFred
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2016
      • 9782

      #3
      Trump doesnt actually give a shit about a wall, he had 2 years of complete govt control and barely mentioned it. But now that dems have the house he thinks he can stir up his base and take the media attention away from his crimes by shutting down the govt. That's all this is, a diversion.





      And gullible dumbnuts like this salivate like a dog staring at a milk bone

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      • Acepimp
        All Facts Matter
        • Jan 2012
        • 20313

        #4


        It will also pay for itself by reducing spending on illegals

        Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

        The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

        So it would save us money long-term. Not sure why anyone would be in favor of letting violent drug gangs and human traffickers do what they do. It's very strange
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        • CaptainHowdy
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          • Dec 2004
          • 94743

          #5
          Have a good weekend y'all . . .

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          • Bladewire
            StraightBro
            • Aug 2003
            • 56228

            #6
            He thinks the majority of government workers are liberal Democrats , like the 42,000 coast guard families and 58,000 TSA families and the 15,000 air traffic controllers impacted by the shutdown getting no pay

            Trump wants to break a shutdown record so he'll let It go for 22 days at least.


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            • RedFred
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2016
              • 9782

              #7
              Originally posted by Bladewire
              He thinks the majority of government workers are liberal Democrats

              Trump wants to break a shutdown record so he'll let It go for 22 days at least.
              I think he's content with letting it go on for a long time. Doesn't affect him so he doesn't give a fuck. He gets pleasure when others suffer especially when he's the cause.

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              • BaldBastard
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 16816

                #8
                Originally posted by Acepimp

                The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

                So it would save us money long-term. Not sure why anyone would be in favor of letting violent drug gangs and human traffickers do what they do. It's very strange
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                • King Mark
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 27033

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crockett
                  it appears Trump thinks Americans are Mexicans now...
                  Well... You see, before the Mayflower and all that... There were.... NVM.

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                  • Bladewire
                    StraightBro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 56228

                    #10




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                    • Bladewire
                      StraightBro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 56228

                      #11
                      All Trump had to do when he took office was implement a "wall fee" on all electronic remittance to Mexico. He would have had all the money he wanted by now.

                      But no. Trump is an idiot.


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                      • Bladewire
                        StraightBro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 56228

                        #12
                        All 10,000 FEMA employees are work furloughed during the shutdown.

                        All 10,000 FEMA eployees have no income, and will receive no income, for the last 14 days.


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                        • pimpmaster9000
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 26732

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                          All Trump had to do when he took office was implement a "wall fee" on all electronic remittance to Mexico. He would have had all the money he wanted by now.

                          But no. Trump is an idiot.

                          Such silly sanctions/tariffs only reward underground money services and will punish the huge bulk of legal mexicans sending money to their families...
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                          • TheSquealer
                            Mayor of Thneedville
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 26179

                            #14
                            Originally posted by crucifissio
                            Such silly sanctions/tariffs only reward underground money services and will punish the huge bulk of legal mexicans sending money to their families...
                            Says the guy from the nation that tried to murder all Albanian males from 15-60 years old for similar reasons.

                            Imagine if people flooded into Serbia to work and then send what they earned back out, back to their home countries. Your National Treasury of 81 cows, 351 chickens and 3 goats would be depleted in minutes.
                            .
                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26179

                              #15
                              I guess we all missed the part where Trump explicitly said how and when Mexico would pay for the wall. I remember him laying out numerous possibilities. I don't remember him saying they were going to advance the cash.

                              But hey, we get it. Orange Man Bad! Therefore facts (and reality itself) are irrelevant.
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                              • Bladewire
                                StraightBro
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 56228

                                #16
                                Mexico hasn't paid for Trump's vanity wall.

                                So Trump shuts down the American government.

                                To force Americans to pay for his vanity wall.


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                                • kane
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 20684

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Bladewire
                                  He thinks the majority of government workers are liberal Democrats , like the 42,000 coast guard families and 58,000 TSA families and the 15,000 air traffic controllers impacted by the shutdown getting no pay

                                  Trump wants to break a shutdown record so he'll let It go for 22 days at least.
                                  Let him continue to blow off the out of work employees as "Democrats." Those are all just people who will not vote for him. Also, whatever happened to being President of all Americans? It's okay if Democrats are out of work now?

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56228

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kane
                                    Let him continue to blow off the out of work employees as "Democrats." Those are all just people who will not vote for him. Also, whatever happened to being President of all Americans? It's okay if Democrats are out of work now?
                                    He's not a cognitive thinker.

                                    He's very short sited.

                                    He's saying border patrol & ICE (federal employees) are Democrats You know that's pissing them off in addition to not being paid and their payraise for 2019 being frozen by Trump while Trump & his cabinet all get payraises.

                                    Trump issues executive order freezing federal workers' pay in 2019


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                                    • kane
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Bladewire
                                      He's not a cognitive thinker.

                                      He's very short sited.

                                      He's saying border patrol & ICE (federal employees) are Democrats You know that's pissing them off in addition to not being paid and their payraise for 2019 being frozen by Trump while Trump & his cabinet all get payraises.

                                      Trump issues executive order freezing federal workers' pay in 2019
                                      It looks bad when you tell people, "We have enough money to give a trillion dollar tax cut to the rich, but not enough for you to get a cost of living raise."

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                                      • Bladewire
                                        StraightBro
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 56228

                                        #20
                                        Holy shit! The comments section for this story on Foxnews about the government shutdown is filled with Russian trolls talking about Hillary Clinton & Obama!

                                        Deflect & distract won't work with the government shutdown


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                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                          • Dec 2011
                                          • 26732

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                          Says the guy from the nation that tried to murder all Albanian males from 15-60 years old for similar reasons.

                                          Imagine if people flooded into Serbia to work and then send what they earned back out, back to their home countries. Your National Treasury of 81 cows, 351 chickens and 3 goats would be depleted in minutes.

                                          Invader, your invader version of events is most amusing...it does not change the fact that if you put tarifs on remittance you will just reward underground chanels with a new lucrative business...I know this because you gangsters did it to me and I had to use underground chanels...

                                          Also, you gangster, it is you gang8sters who dump your inflation on the world with your war dollars and you get real goods and services in return for thin air money...your "national treasury" is a scam...it is you who are robbing others not the other way around...
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                                          • NoWhErE
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                                            • Sep 2005
                                            • 10583

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Acepimp


                                            It will also pay for itself by reducing spending on illegals

                                            Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

                                            The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

                                            So it would save us money long-term. Not sure why anyone would be in favor of letting violent drug gangs and human traffickers do what they do. It's very strange

                                            No, Mexico isn't paying for the border wall through USMCA
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                                            • BaldBastard
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 16816

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bladewire
                                              Holy shit! The comments section for this story on Foxnews about the government shutdown is filled with Russian trolls talking about Hillary Clinton & Obama!

                                              Deflect & distract won't work with the government shutdown
                                              Problem is they're most likely not Russian trolls but paid News Corporation staff via subsidiary company 123 that contracts company 456 to engage company 789 that just happens to be located in Russia.

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                                              • Busty2
                                                Member since 1999
                                                • Dec 2007
                                                • 7202

                                                #24
                                                Interesting read, goes to show what a lying fuck CHUMP is yet again! I have more respect for a turd that that twat!

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                                                • thommy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 5469

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Acepimp


                                                  It will also pay for itself by reducing spending on illegals

                                                  Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

                                                  The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

                                                  So it would save us money long-term. Not sure why anyone would be in favor of letting violent drug gangs and human traffickers do what they do. It's very strange
                                                  good so why you need a shutdown and a donation site ?

                                                  and does the benefit from this "great deal" not come when the wall is not build?

                                                  i really don´t understand where you guys got your logic from ..... loooool
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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56228

                                                    #26
                                                    Airline pilots from all of the airlines in America have signed a letter to Trump about how this shutdown is making America less safe.


                                                    President Donald J. Trump
                                                    The White House
                                                    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
                                                    Washington, D.C. 20500

                                                    Dear President Trump:

                                                    On behalf of the 61,000 pilots of the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), I
                                                    am writing to urge you to take the necessary steps to immediately end the shutdown of
                                                    government agencies that is adversely affecting the safety, security and efficiency of our national airspace system.

                                                    The nation’s airspace system is a complex transportation network that involves
                                                    government and industry partnerships to function properly, and the disruptions being
                                                    caused by the shutdown are threatening the safe operations of this network.

                                                    The government agency partners in the Department of Transportation (DOT) and
                                                    Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have dual roles. They are both regulators and
                                                    service providers. When any of their responsibilities are placed on pause due to a
                                                    shutdown there are safety, security and efficiency gaps that immediately emerge.
                                                    For example, at the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) there are fewer safety
                                                    inspectors than are needed in order to ensure the air traffic control infrastructure is
                                                    performing at its peak levels of performance. There are also airline and aircraft
                                                    manufacturing oversight activities that either stop or are significantly reduced.

                                                    These safety and oversight inspections will potentially allow for the introduction of safety issues that put passengers and airline crews at risk. Although the 2018 holiday season is now behind us, the number of recreational drones, or unmanned aircraft systems (UAS), has likely grown significantly in the past several weeks. The shutdown is a significant stumbling block in the FAA’s efforts to ensure the safety of the airspace from those drone operators who may be operating in an unsafe manner.

                                                    In addition to the safety oversight role, the FAA air traffic control organization is in the
                                                    midst of implementing a new communications capability, called Data Communications
                                                    (Data Comm). The Data Comm program has not yet reached its full implementation
                                                    capability, and due to the shutdown there will be significant delays to the program. If the shutdown continues, air traffic controllers and pilots previously trained on the system will lose their proficiency due to a lack of use, and re-training will likely be required. The need to re-train will add costs and will no doubt delay the progress of
                                                    this important airspace system upgrade.

                                                    Finally, at both the FAA and at the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the air traffic controllers, airspace system maintenance personnel, and the airline passenger security workforce are being asked to work unpaid. They are dutifully providing safety of life services while facing increasingly difficult financial pressures to provide for those dependent on their paycheck. The pressure these civil servants are facing at home should not be ignored. At some point, these dedicated federal employees will
                                                    encounter personal financial damages that will take a long time from which to recover,
                                                    if at all.

                                                    Based on the impacts to the aviation industry including the ALPA membership, we
                                                    urge you to take the necessary steps to immediately end the shutdown of government
                                                    agencies that is affecting the safety, security and efficiency of our national airspace
                                                    system.
                                                    Sincerely,
                                                    Captain Joe DePete
                                                    President
                                                    Air Line Pilots Association, International
                                                    cc: The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
                                                    The Honorable Mitch McConnell
                                                    The Honorable Charles E. Schumer
                                                    The Honorable Kevin McCarthy


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                                                    • Bladewire
                                                      StraightBro
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 56228

                                                      #27
                                                      39,000 federal prison guards have not been paid for 2 weeks.

                                                      Trump thinks federal prison guards are "Democrats"


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                                                      • crockett
                                                        in a van by the river
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 76818

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                        Airline pilots from all of the airlines in America have signed a letter to Trump about how this shutdown is making America less safe.


                                                        President Donald J. Trump
                                                        The White House
                                                        1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
                                                        Washington, D.C. 20500

                                                        Dear President Trump:

                                                        On behalf of the 61,000 pilots of the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), I
                                                        am writing to urge you to take the necessary steps to immediately end the shutdown of
                                                        government agencies that is adversely affecting the safety, security and efficiency of our national airspace system.

                                                        The nation’s airspace system is a complex transportation network that involves
                                                        government and industry partnerships to function properly, and the disruptions being
                                                        caused by the shutdown are threatening the safe operations of this network.

                                                        The government agency partners in the Department of Transportation (DOT) and
                                                        Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have dual roles. They are both regulators and
                                                        service providers. When any of their responsibilities are placed on pause due to a
                                                        shutdown there are safety, security and efficiency gaps that immediately emerge.
                                                        For example, at the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) there are fewer safety
                                                        inspectors than are needed in order to ensure the air traffic control infrastructure is
                                                        performing at its peak levels of performance. There are also airline and aircraft
                                                        manufacturing oversight activities that either stop or are significantly reduced.

                                                        These safety and oversight inspections will potentially allow for the introduction of safety issues that put passengers and airline crews at risk. Although the 2018 holiday season is now behind us, the number of recreational drones, or unmanned aircraft systems (UAS), has likely grown significantly in the past several weeks. The shutdown is a significant stumbling block in the FAA’s efforts to ensure the safety of the airspace from those drone operators who may be operating in an unsafe manner.

                                                        In addition to the safety oversight role, the FAA air traffic control organization is in the
                                                        midst of implementing a new communications capability, called Data Communications
                                                        (Data Comm). The Data Comm program has not yet reached its full implementation
                                                        capability, and due to the shutdown there will be significant delays to the program. If the shutdown continues, air traffic controllers and pilots previously trained on the system will lose their proficiency due to a lack of use, and re-training will likely be required. The need to re-train will add costs and will no doubt delay the progress of
                                                        this important airspace system upgrade.

                                                        Finally, at both the FAA and at the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the air traffic controllers, airspace system maintenance personnel, and the airline passenger security workforce are being asked to work unpaid. They are dutifully providing safety of life services while facing increasingly difficult financial pressures to provide for those dependent on their paycheck. The pressure these civil servants are facing at home should not be ignored. At some point, these dedicated federal employees will
                                                        encounter personal financial damages that will take a long time from which to recover,
                                                        if at all.

                                                        Based on the impacts to the aviation industry including the ALPA membership, we
                                                        urge you to take the necessary steps to immediately end the shutdown of government
                                                        agencies that is affecting the safety, security and efficiency of our national airspace
                                                        system.
                                                        Sincerely,
                                                        Captain Joe DePete
                                                        President
                                                        Air Line Pilots Association, International
                                                        cc: The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
                                                        The Honorable Mitch McConnell
                                                        The Honorable Charles E. Schumer
                                                        The Honorable Kevin McCarthy

                                                        He will never read that.. it's too long.. Trump cant read more than 280 characters.
                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                        • Bladewire
                                                          StraightBro
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 56228

                                                          #29


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                                                          • Rochard
                                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 75733

                                                            #30
                                                            I fail to understand why anyone supports this man.
                                                            Herschel Savage
                                                            Brooklyn, NY

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                                                            • P_RABID
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2017
                                                              • 514

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              That's what he said, over and over and over.. it appears Trump thinks Americans are Mexicans now...

                                                              A added side effect of the shutdown is Everify a system set in place to allow employers to check the legal status of a new hire is closed down..

                                                              In states like Arizona its required by state law to use everify and now its shut down so employers cant hire anyone with out breaking the law...

                                                              LoL stupid Chump...
                                                              I think what Trump is insinuating is that Mexico will pay for the wall by new trade deals or some shit. The money he’s apparently is saving with his killer deals is the money that will pay for the wall. So indirectly Mexico is paying for the wall. Or some shit like that,

                                                              p.s I just thought about it l, is Trump considered to be a Ranga ??

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                                                              • Rochard
                                                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 75733

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by P_RABID
                                                                I think what Trump is insinuating is that Mexico will pay for the wall by new trade deals or some shit.
                                                                No, that is not what he said. He said Mexico will pay for the wall.

                                                                If he meant "Mexico will be paying for the wall through some new trade deal" why is he asking for $5 billion.

                                                                This is bullshit, and it's gotten old. We don't need a fucking wall. Illegal immigration is down, and most illegal immigrants come through proper ports of entry and never return home. The same with drugs. At the same time, they are already tunneling under what little walls we have and also fences. Building a expensive wall that doesn't work that is trying to solve a problem that is less of a problem every month is exactly why two thirds of Americans are against it.

                                                                Now the problem is Trump wants Democrats to help him keep his campaign promise. That's not going to happen. This is the Trump Shutdown. Trump said he would be proud to shut down the government. So be it. We can limp along another few weeks until TSA agents throw in the towel and go out and get jobs that pay them. Same thing with the Coast Guard.

                                                                Some one from my home town on Facebook changed her profile photo to "Trump is Winning". Winning at what? He is by far the most unpopular president ever. He hasn't fixed the Middle East (the other side won't even talk to us), hasn't fixed the opioid crisis, hasn't built a wall, hasn't improved relations with Russia.... Oh - North Korea. Hasn't fixed that either. Other than a tax cut for the rich that did nothing for the average American and NAFTA 2.0 (which seems to be more or less the same exact agreement we had before with only a handful of minor changes).... What the fuck?

                                                                Robbie came to GFY earlier today and told he wants to have Obama investigated. How can Obama afford houses in Chicago, Washington DC, and Hawaii if he as only worked for the US government his entire life. Setting aside the fact he worked for a law firm as an attorney, and his wife made hundreds of thousand of dollars a year as an attorney, and setting aside the fact that they have made millions on book deals.... And setting aside the fact that the Obama have released their tax forms for the past decade.... Are you fucking kidding me? We know where every dime Obama ever made came from. But yet somehow the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt?

                                                                This is bat shit crazy.

                                                                Herschel Savage
                                                                Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                • King Mark
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Aug 2016
                                                                  • 27033

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Word....

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                                                                  • P_RABID
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2017
                                                                    • 514

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                    No, that is not what he said. He said Mexico will pay for the wall.

                                                                    If he meant "Mexico will be paying for the wall through some new trade deal" why is he asking for $5 billion.

                                                                    This is bullshit, and it's gotten old. We don't need a fucking wall. Illegal immigration is down, and most illegal immigrants come through proper ports of entry and never return home. The same with drugs. At the same time, they are already tunneling under what little walls we have and also fences. Building a expensive wall that doesn't work that is trying to solve a problem that is less of a problem every month is exactly why two thirds of Americans are against it.

                                                                    Now the problem is Trump wants Democrats to help him keep his campaign promise. That's not going to happen. This is the Trump Shutdown. Trump said he would be proud to shut down the government. So be it. We can limp along another few weeks until TSA agents throw in the towel and go out and get jobs that pay them. Same thing with the Coast Guard.

                                                                    Some one from my home town on Facebook changed her profile photo to "Trump is Winning". Winning at what? He is by far the most unpopular president ever. He hasn't fixed the Middle East (the other side won't even talk to us), hasn't fixed the opioid crisis, hasn't built a wall, hasn't improved relations with Russia.... Oh - North Korea. Hasn't fixed that either. Other than a tax cut for the rich that did nothing for the average American and NAFTA 2.0 (which seems to be more or less the same exact agreement we had before with only a handful of minor changes).... What the fuck?

                                                                    Robbie came to GFY earlier today and told he wants to have Obama investigated. How can Obama afford houses in Chicago, Washington DC, and Hawaii if he as only worked for the US government his entire life. Setting aside the fact he worked for a law firm as an attorney, and his wife made hundreds of thousand of dollars a year as an attorney, and setting aside the fact that they have made millions on book deals.... And setting aside the fact that the Obama have released their tax forms for the past decade.... Are you fucking kidding me? We know where every dime Obama ever made came from. But yet somehow the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt?

                                                                    This is bat shit crazy.

                                                                    Very well said, Trump made a promise , he’s trying to show his followers that he will follow through with his promise. The wall will be built regardless of what deal the dems make. Trump will probably use his preseidential powers to make the wall in the end. A wall will be built, Trump will sacrifice all just to get re elected if he has to.

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                                                                    • thommy
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                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 5469

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by P_RABID
                                                                      Very well said, Trump made a promise , he’s trying to show his followers that he will follow through with his promise. The wall will be built regardless of what deal the dems make. Trump will probably use his preseidential powers to make the wall in the end. A wall will be built, Trump will sacrifice all just to get re elected if he has to.
                                                                      but look HOW can a president even GIVE a promise ?

                                                                      the US is still a democracy and not a dictatorship - house and senate have to agree and if they do not agree in one or more points he have to live with that because he decided to be the president of THIS system.

                                                                      if a president has the power in his hands to blackmail house and senate to do something that is against their conviction, democracy is at its end
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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Illegal immigrants are already costing the American taxpayer billions. Are you happy to pay even more?



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                                                                        • thommy
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 5469

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                          Illegal immigrants are already costing the American taxpayer billions. Are you happy to pay even more?
                                                                          paul imagine 10 billionairs alone on an island.

                                                                          tell me how economy can work there.

                                                                          these 10 would be the poorest people on the whole fucking planet.
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                                                                          • Bladewire
                                                                            StraightBro
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 56228

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                            Illegal immigrants are already costing the American taxpayer billions. Are you happy to pay even more?
                                                                            You don't care about America or the U.K. you're an immigrant to Czechoslovakia.

                                                                            You act like illegals do nothing once they get to America but drain the system.

                                                                            You ate ignorant on this topic so stop trying to attempt to justify your racist bulshit.

                                                                            Illegals buy cell phones

                                                                            Illegals pay for cellphone service

                                                                            Illegals buy gas

                                                                            Illegals buy groceries

                                                                            Illegals buy clothes

                                                                            Illegals buy movie tickets

                                                                            Illegals go to restaurants

                                                                            Illegals buy cars

                                                                            Illegals pay rent for housing

                                                                            Etc. Etc. Etc.

                                                                            Oh and illegals WORK you dumbass


                                                                            Skype: CallTomNow

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                                                                            • directfiesta
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 30137

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                              I guess we all missed the part where Trump explicitly said how and when Mexico would pay for the wall. I remember him laying out numerous possibilities. I don't remember him saying they were going to advance the cash.

                                                                              But hey, we get it. Orange Man Bad! Therefore facts (and reality itself) are irrelevant.
                                                                              Alzheimer is a sad state
                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                              • Bladewire
                                                                                StraightBro
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 56228

                                                                                #40




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                                                                                • marlboroack
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jul 2010
                                                                                  • 9327

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Ok look. I'll build the fucking wall

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                                                                                  • Bladewire
                                                                                    StraightBro
                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                    • 56228

                                                                                    #42




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                                                                                    • astronaut x
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • May 2011
                                                                                      • 4844

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Acepimp


                                                                                      It will also pay for itself by reducing spending on illegals

                                                                                      Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

                                                                                      The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

                                                                                      So it would save us money long-term. Not sure why anyone would be in favor of letting violent drug gangs and human traffickers do what they do. It's very strange
                                                                                      Not true. This was circulated a couple weeks ago and has been proven to be false. FAKE NEWS.
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                                                                                      • astronaut x
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • May 2011
                                                                                        • 4844

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                        Illegal immigrants are already costing the American taxpayer billions. Are you happy to pay even more?
                                                                                        But nobody ever talks about the profits of corporations and businesses that are fucking the average American by hiring said illegals.

                                                                                        Then lets also consider the prices you (not you, because you don't fucking live here) pay for food at the grocery store that is much less because of the system of slavery that is in place.

                                                                                        You want to talk about that stuff as well?
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