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Bladewire · 12-21-2018, 01:10 PM

Damn, things are worse than they initially told everyone!

Markets suffer worst year since global financial crisis | Reuters

Traders will be glad to see the back of 2018. Nearly $7 trillion has been wiped off world stocks, emerging markets have been trampled flat by a charging dollar and even gold and U.S. government bonds have lost money.

A grisly combination of U.S.-China trade tensions, central banks turning off the money taps and cooling growth in former hot spots has wiped 10 percent off MSCI’s 47-country world stocks index .MIWD00000PUS — its first double-digit loss in any year since the 2008 global financial crisis.

Many places have fared far worse. Top Chinese shares .CSI300 have fallen 25 percent into 'bear' territory, export bellwether Germany .GDAXI has shed 16 percent, and Turkey and Argentina have led emerging markets losses, down 45 and 50 percent respectively.

Add in a wild 35 percent plunge in oil prices LCOc1 since September, rises in Italian, Greek and now French borrowing costs that show euro zone worries remain alive, and a full scale cryptocurrency collapse, and it has been unequivocally brutal.

“After 10 years of low interest rates and quantitative easing I think we have to understand how some of this leverage in the market can unwind,” said Allianz Global Investors fund manager and global strategist Neil Dwane.

“What was a virtuous circle on the way up can become a vicious one on the way down.”

A fair bit of the year’s pain has stemmed from swift move up in U.S. interest rates and a pumped-up dollar .DXY, which has had its best year in three years.

As a result, the euro EUR=, pound GBP=, Canadian and Aussie dollars CAD=AUD= and Swedish crown SEK= have all lost between 5 and 10 percent and though the Japanese yen JPY= comes out largely unscathed, emerging markets certainly haven't.

Argentina's peso ARS= and Turkey's lira TRY= have slumped 50 and 30 percent, while India's rupee IDR=, South Africa's rand ZAR=, Brazil's real BRL= and Russia's rouble RUB= are all down between 10 to 15 percent. China's yuan CNYUSD=R is in the red for a fourth year in five.

Emerging market shares meanwhile have hemorrhaged almost 17 percent .MSCIEF and JP Morgan's EM local currency bond index has lost nearly 8 percent. tmsnrt.rs/2egbfVh

Dalton Investments emerging market portfolio manager Pedro Zevallos said the big falls meant many markets, including China were now cheap. “But right now it honestly feels like catching a falling knife.”

“And my concern going into next year is that the dollar will continue to strengthen.”

CRYPTOCOLLAPSE
With China also the biggest consumer of industrial commodities, its misfiring economy has contributed to the respective 17 and 23 percent declines in the price of copper CMCU3 and zinc CMZN3, used in things like pipes and galvanized steel.

The big cryptocollapse has seen Bitcoin BTC=BTSP crash 72 percent. There are now over 2,000 other digital currencies in circulation but their value has plummeted to $128 billion from over $800 billion in January.

But even traditional safe-havens have failed to provide much in the way of protection.

Another four U.S. interest hikes have cost Treasury bond holders US10YT=RR nearly 2 percent despite a better last few months and the euro’s fall puts German Bunds down 2.3 percent in dollar terms. Gold is 4 percent less precious.

Italy’s government bonds meanwhile have plunged 9 percent after an anti-establishment government took charge in Rome and the European Central Bank confirmed its huge bond-buying program will end this year.

“The question as we look into 2019 and 2020 is how much worse the trade/tech cold war and Brexit get,” Allianz’s Dwayne said. “That could tells us that maybe we are not going to see a traditional downturn but a significant one.”

Acepimp · 12-21-2018, 01:14 PM

Once Bernie Sanders wins the next election, he can go after Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Tim Cook for hoarding all that wealth.

Bladewire · 12-21-2018, 02:35 PM

Rochard · 12-21-2018, 03:08 PM

#winning. lol.

King Mark · 12-21-2018, 03:26 PM

All day I've been getting notifications of stocks hitting 52 week lows.

Bladewire · 12-22-2018, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

#winning. lol.

And now our government is shutdown over Christmas

crockett · 12-22-2018, 01:47 PM

Who knew running a govt would be so hard....

kane · 12-22-2018, 02:21 PM

The tax cuts did result in companies buying back more than a trillion dollars of their own stock. Wasn't that money supposed to trickle down?

12-21-2018, 01:10 PM	#1
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	Under Trump U.S. markets suffer worst year of losses since global financial crisis Damn, things are worse than they initially told everyone! Markets suffer worst year since global financial crisis \| Reuters Traders will be glad to see the back of 2018. Nearly $7 trillion has been wiped off world stocks, emerging markets have been trampled flat by a charging dollar and even gold and U.S. government bonds have lost money. A grisly combination of U.S.-China trade tensions, central banks turning off the money taps and cooling growth in former hot spots has wiped 10 percent off MSCI’s 47-country world stocks index .MIWD00000PUS — its first double-digit loss in any year since the 2008 global financial crisis. Many places have fared far worse. Top Chinese shares .CSI300 have fallen 25 percent into 'bear' territory, export bellwether Germany .GDAXI has shed 16 percent, and Turkey and Argentina have led emerging markets losses, down 45 and 50 percent respectively. Add in a wild 35 percent plunge in oil prices LCOc1 since September, rises in Italian, Greek and now French borrowing costs that show euro zone worries remain alive, and a full scale cryptocurrency collapse, and it has been unequivocally brutal. “After 10 years of low interest rates and quantitative easing I think we have to understand how some of this leverage in the market can unwind,” said Allianz Global Investors fund manager and global strategist Neil Dwane. “What was a virtuous circle on the way up can become a vicious one on the way down.” A fair bit of the year’s pain has stemmed from swift move up in U.S. interest rates and a pumped-up dollar .DXY, which has had its best year in three years. As a result, the euro EUR=, pound GBP=, Canadian and Aussie dollars CAD=AUD= and Swedish crown SEK= have all lost between 5 and 10 percent and though the Japanese yen JPY= comes out largely unscathed, emerging markets certainly haven't. Argentina's peso ARS= and Turkey's lira TRY= have slumped 50 and 30 percent, while India's rupee IDR=, South Africa's rand ZAR=, Brazil's real BRL= and Russia's rouble RUB= are all down between 10 to 15 percent. China's yuan CNYUSD=R is in the red for a fourth year in five. Emerging market shares meanwhile have hemorrhaged almost 17 percent .MSCIEF and JP Morgan's EM local currency bond index has lost nearly 8 percent. tmsnrt.rs/2egbfVh Dalton Investments emerging market portfolio manager Pedro Zevallos said the big falls meant many markets, including China were now cheap. “But right now it honestly feels like catching a falling knife.” “And my concern going into next year is that the dollar will continue to strengthen.” CRYPTOCOLLAPSE With China also the biggest consumer of industrial commodities, its misfiring economy has contributed to the respective 17 and 23 percent declines in the price of copper CMCU3 and zinc CMZN3, used in things like pipes and galvanized steel. The big cryptocollapse has seen Bitcoin BTC=BTSP crash 72 percent. There are now over 2,000 other digital currencies in circulation but their value has plummeted to $128 billion from over $800 billion in January. But even traditional safe-havens have failed to provide much in the way of protection. Another four U.S. interest hikes have cost Treasury bond holders US10YT=RR nearly 2 percent despite a better last few months and the euro’s fall puts German Bunds down 2.3 percent in dollar terms. Gold is 4 percent less precious. Italy’s government bonds meanwhile have plunged 9 percent after an anti-establishment government took charge in Rome and the European Central Bank confirmed its huge bond-buying program will end this year. “The question as we look into 2019 and 2020 is how much worse the trade/tech cold war and Brexit get,” Allianz’s Dwayne said. “That could tells us that maybe we are not going to see a traditional downturn but a significant one.”

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	The tax cuts did result in companies buying back more than a trillion dollars of their own stock. Wasn't that money supposed to trickle down?