The theories of man starting in Africa went to the trash a long time ago.
Man himself is much older than that old migration pattern theory shows.

The answer is, we do not know. How smart is that ?

Evidence show us that the great pyramids and Spinx are probably 12,000 years old but we have no human remains of that time period. In that area anyway.

There are plenty more pyramids than those in Egypt. Just less known.

https://www.talesofcroatia.com/en/jo...snian-pyramids

https://lostworlds.org/ancient-walle...georgia-coast/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

Most folks vision of history is limited to their cultural upbringing and religion that went with it.

There is plenty of evidence of worldwide trade before Christ Helios but why does it escape the history books.

https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/egyptiancanyon/

Take a look at these artifacts pulled from a cave in Illinois
(10's of thousands of artifacts are not hoax)
https://www.google.com/search?q=burr...w=1280&bih=624

Or these pulled from mounds in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana...
https://www.google.com/search?biw=12...mg.ud72o6Wo0DU

And everyone 'THINKS' they have a grip on history...
I could go on for days on this stuff. And yes, I have studied these old languages enough to read some of them. Being able to speak the sounds has nothing to do with understanding the content and context of what is being said. That takes a very long time.

Everyone needs to re-think what they think they know of history.

I agree with this.

The first thing all of us should realize is that we know almost nothing.

This 'egg stone' actually tells a story of the rejuvenation of the earth in a cycle.
When I first laid eyes on it nearly every symbol was recognizable to me.
Never had I seen them used together in this way.
The one icon with 2 pointy peeks represents the precession of the earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession
Something we know people of pre-history were aware of.... but how ?

And we think we are so smart.

what do you mean there are no human remains in that area? the giza plateau has builders quarters still remaining with tons of stuff found there...they even found the specific builders tombs...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._%28map%29.svg


the bosnian pyramids are a complete hoax...the dude who "found" them wants to drill a hole in them to release cosmic energy and he is batshit crazy...tons of geologists and archeologists have been at the site and they did not find shit...he then rented some excavators and tried to make a fake step pyramid and then called journalists who called him out on the BS :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yea really cool.. there is a facebook group by the museum there: https://www.facebook.com/Egypt.Culture/

best part of fb currently lol

Your not reading what I wrote.
Fine... I'll break it down for you...
show me human remains 12,000 years old in that area of Egypt, which is the time these are estimated to have been built. This places it before the 'flood story'.
Plenty of human remains, just none from the period it was built.

Those that we think of as the Egyptians, came to inhabit these structures much the same as the Inca inhabited Machu Picchu in Peru and made it their own, building on top of and fixing what was bad . For our story, Khufu even re-carved his likeness in the sphinx. Those same folks tried to re-make the pyramids in a image they were creating. In the process, covered the' eye of horus ' (see the back of a $1 us bill), a large mica slate 12 ft thick at the top of the great pyramid, found to be of south american origin by mineral content. All art, writing and cultural artifacts are newer than 5,000 years.

So make sure you read it as I wrote it.

The Bosnian Pyramids have been recently excavated and continue to reveal secrets from those underground passageways. Just because one 'nutter' is making strange claims does not make it all a hoax. Folks do the same with the great pyramid and even our landing on the moon.

Just like politics, you have to have a BS filter. I follow only the science. But the last 25 years, I started following cultures, languages and religions. As I did, I had a much better BS filter. I can better date any writing because of looking at it in that way.

The 'great flood story' is told by all cultures around the globe. Best told in the Sumerian texts, clay tablets that date back to 4k bc+ and is some of the oldest writing to date.
The event likely happened between 8500 and 6500 bc that was likely caused by celestial events from the gravity of a near passing body to earth. Some of the same events that likely created the asteroid belt past mars.

If you don't keep up with rapid science discovery of the last 15-20 years, you probably don't even know that our solar system was originally part of the Sagittarius Minor when it got swept up by the Milky Way.

Anyway the ancient folks had a good foundation of celestial events. Why ?
All cultures were tracking the precession of the earth for a new coming of the 'GODS'.
The sphinx that is LEO (the lion) denotes a time marker of the 'age of leo' which is the first astro symbol in the morning of the spring equinox when this was built. Around 10,500 bc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age
And is why it faces East.

The 3 pyramids when viewed from the top, show a exact alignment with the 'Belt of the constellation ORION' which is the last constellation they see at sunset for this 'time marker'. Almost every strange science tid-bit in this area before the coming of Khufu show strange ties to Orion.
And all those facts nobody has really been able to piece together for a reason.
Probably a mystery till we know who built them and why. I have always believed they tell a story to last ages but was not the sole purpose. But I will not go there now.

Most theory of what we were taught in school has been totally discredited by real science, not theory. I can only guess the only reason most of it does not make bigger headlines is much of it would break religious belief.

Anyway, as long as I have been studying this stuff, I always find at least one story calling things a hoax. Sound familiar. Some of them are, but some things like the findings of 'Soper and Savage' in the Midwest could not possibly manufacture over 30,000 artifact containing languages that were hardly known in the 1800's (would be 2 pretty busy guys).But others were unearthing the same during the late 1800's and early 1900's and number well over 100k most in private collections now. You are no longer allowed to dig into these mounds anymore even if on your own private property.

But those Soper/Savage artifacts are discredited to this day. The reason then...
At the time they were believed to be 'Indian artifacts' and the Indians were not known to have a written language and would change their classification in the eyes of the US government as 'NOT A SAVAGE PEOPLE' and that would stop them from 'stealing their land'.
That was done by the head of the freshly formed Smithsonian Institution.
Of course, they were not native artifacts but from folks that visited/migrated from areas of the middle east areas around 1700 bc. But why discredit them now ? After getting tossed around for a while, they recently found a home in Michigans' museum's.
There is at least one language yet to be deciphered on some of them and it is found in remote places like Greece and some coastal areas in china on pottery fragments.

Anyway, it's not very often I get the chance to talk about this stuff. And much of it is not believable if you have not followed the true science lately. I understand that.
And no, I don't follow those folks talking about capturing/focusing energy of/by the pyramids. Sorry.

A lot of really great info there thank you! Who knew we are all actually from a different galaxy Sagittarius Minor originally.

It's amazing how our universe works so many mysteries yet unsolved so many bits of knowledge not revealed yet.

I really like to show how some 'hoax' stories get started.
A few years ago, a discovery was made in lake Michigan. It was a Stonehenge like structure all discovered by mistake while doing some sonar readings of the lake floor.
Anyway, divers went down to have a peek and this is what they confirmed.

Now because of a discovery of the carving of a elephant on a stone, one 'SMART PERSON?' made a claim that mastodons were in north America while people inhabited it.
And they continued to date the find 10's of thousands of years older than it is.

Now someone else comes along to rightfully say that is not possible. Many call the whole find a hoax.

Now, to show you there is a truth to this find, just not the one being presented to you.
From the Soper and Savage story I mentioned above, folks were migrating here from mid-east areas in large numbers 1750BC and perhaps earlier, but I would mention your biblical story of Joseph who was Sobek's right hand man that came to what we know as the Americas bringing back grains to Egypt and thwarting famine. And is why he is so much of a hero.

But at that time, in the mid-east areas, they had 'war-ing elephants', yes used in battle probably much before this time but were continued to be a celebrated animal.

So now you know why it is there and when it was put there.
But, as all of this history leads me to one other favorite topic that can tell other stories of history like geology. Why is this all 12 meters below the waters surface ? and the level of the great lakes have been shrinking ! I have already tied those findings to figure out how they got those ships through the St Lawrence seaway to the lakes.
A story for some other time.

But here is a story from the web that may not be the best. Just wanted to give you some additional reading on the topic.

Ancient "Stonehenge" at the bottom of Lake Michigan | Earth Chronicles News

Don't take a pass on science just because someone makes a outrageous claim. Stick to the facts.

Science isn't about always getting it right, VRPdommy . . .

Theory is not always getting it right.

Theory is conclusions from the best representation of the science.

Most bad theory is based on bad science to begin with. Or to many assumptions from the lack of clear answers in science. But this always changes and is updated.
Don't confuse theory with fact and/or science.

Most of us grew in this world accepting theory as fact. Which is why it runs against the grain today when we know better that the old theory is invalid. It's just that it takes much longer to update the thinking, even in this high speed data world.

It is still hard today to speak against things that defy religion. So nobody does.

I quest to put history together in a way that makes sense without ferry tales.

We wuz kangs!

Funny... They look Aztec to me !

An explanation for the flood stories that circulated the ancient world is easy. Tsunamis and the melting of the Ice caps after the last Ice Age. Add these stories to religions that are meant to scare people into believing that a god is there to punish us for not doing as the priests tell us. And you have an explanation.

Using theory as facts is dangerous.

We wuz vi-kangz!

The 'GREAT FLOOD' story told in the bible was a borrowed story from Sumerian text while the Hebrew were in exile in Babylon. That is not a theory.

It has a geologic record of truth placing it sometime around 8000-6000 BC.
To the Sumerian text, it was caused by a celestial body passing by to close.

But many major floods have occurred not as large as this and is proven in geologic fact.
Enough to raise all sea level. Some just huge tsunami .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

The current theories 'not in that wiki' are that it suffered twice from 2 different events.
One from a more local ocean shelf slide and one much larger flooding from water held back by ice in North America.

Such huge events rarely leave many left to 'tell the tale' of it.

More on global trade before Christ....
https://newsmaven.io/indiancountryto...keYmvcooUO6kA/

There are so many overlooked answers just laying out there that have been dismissed, sometimes because of the lack of understanding at the time and others because of political and religious purpose.

The more you dig back for a second look, you gain answers and generate more questions.
These things do not make headlines but there are plenty of them if you pay attention.

The less you know of them, the more far fetched any one might seem.

Something to change some thinking on how peoples migrated around the world 1000's of years before you thought possible and has been the point of my search for answers.

While that video presented a lot of facts that have been on the table and mostly rejected by the powers that be because they have no explanation and you can't deny fact based on no or poor explanation, Mr Bauval made a leap of judgment at the end.

While one of more pharaoh may have visited that site to visit their ancestors, we also already know the race of the pharaoh changed over time. With many of the first more resembling Olmec's/Maya.
And we also already know the the earliest pharaoh do not date back before 4000bc.
So it hardly puts a good time stamp on this. Especially when you can not date the pictures photographed in the dwellings which I do view as authentic, just misplaced in time. Do not assume.
He is making the same leap in judgement that he was talking against in the miss-thinking on the builders of ancient Egypt.

We may never know what race the original people were but at this point I will trust in the Sumerian text but that does not tell us what they looked like, if it matters.
At least until something better unveils itself.

So, go read-up on the original creation story written perhaps 4000bc of stories that were told orally 1000's of years earlier.

There's a theory that the flood in the bible was due to the melting of the ice cap after the last ice age.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ev...ry?id=17884533

https://io9.gizmodo.com/5940112/anci...ogical-history

What we now have science to explain to us, primitive Man explained as acts of god. The sad part is all the people who still believe this BS.