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  • Rochard
    Jägermeister Test Pilot
    • Dec 2001
    • 75733

    #16
    Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
    Australia has some of the strictest immigration laws in the world and has a natural wall of 2000 miles of ocean...

    yet

    If you go to any building site, or big restaurant and yell... "Border Police" people are running in all directions.. Because JUST LIKE THE USA.. most come in by plane.
    When I worked at Taco Bell it was utterly hilarious. Border Patrol agents in full uniform would walk up to the cashier to order food and half the staff would run out the back door, right into the arms of six or seven other officers.
    Herschel Savage
    Brooklyn, NY

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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #17
      Originally posted by Bladewire
      Rochard and I both live in California and we're both tough on immigration. We've both told you multiple times how we feel.

      You asking our stance on immigration after we have said so many times how he feel about it just shows that you don't listen when people communicate with you.

      It's as if you have a record playing in your head and you refuse to acknowledge individuals but rather characterize us as anyone against Trump is a far left liberal.


      I get the feeling that you and he want little done about it.



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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #18
        Originally posted by Rochard
        I have stated my thoughts on illegal immigration multiple times. Just like everyone else I am against illegal immigration.

        However, spending billions of dollars on a wall will not prevent illegal immigration. They will go around, over, or under any such wall. I want money to be spent where it will be most effective.
        If you want a 100% way to stop illegal migration please come up with ideas.

        I also don't want my local police department involved in illegal immigration issues. It's not that I am against it; I want such people arrested. However, local police departments are not able to handle this. My hometown is a perfect example - we are a town of 50k people and at any time we have three - four officers on duty. Any time they came across anyone illegally, they would have to stop everything, make an arrest, and transport them to the county jail... This reduces the effectiveness of our local police force by 25% - 33% to handle what is a federal issue, not a local one. The FBI doesn't come to my hometown and handle domestic disputes or hand out speeding tickets - that's a local issue, not a federal one.
        So who do you want to deal with it?

        I am also fine with federal agents arresting people here illegally. However, there is a proper way to do this and a wrong way to do this. I used to work at Taco Bell (don't laugh) and once a month Border Patrol would come up to the front cashier and half the staff would go running out the back door - right into the arms of Border Patrol agents. This is effective. These "Special Response Teams" are not effective - it involves large teams of agents to arrest individuals one at a time. Do you see the difference? A team of agents can arrest a dozen people in two hours, or a team of agents can arrest one person in six hours. Also, we should never be arresting people at schools or hospitals unless we have to. There are exceptions to this, however. The Special Response Teams are tasked with going after hardened criminals who are a threat to American society and I am fine with that. But they shouldn't be tasked with arresting someone who hasn't committed a crime.
        So you admit the present system is a failure.

        I also want all of this to be done properly. Prior administrations didn't have to lock people up in large numbers and remove their children from them. There is no reason for this. What's happening now is a crime against humanity. Some of these children are being molested, and others are being "lost" in the system and we are unable to eventually match them up with their parents. If you took my child away from me and "lost" my child, I would sue for billions.
        So don't lock up law breakers and blame them for putting their children in harms way.

        We also need to give people a path to becoming a US citizen. This has always worked in the past.
        This encourages illegal migration.

        There is a right way to do this, and a wrong way. At every turn the Trump administration is doing everything the wrong way. At the same time, the Trump administration is spending more money and being less effective. The Obama administration deported more illegals than any other administration, did it in a cost effective way, did it properly, did it without controversy. The problem is Trump has made "border security" a top priority - trying to fix a problem that isn't really a problem and now he needs to make it look like he is doing something. The end result is they are spending too much money and being less effective in the process.
        So deport them before a trial, or without locking them up and hoping they turn up at court. How did Obama do it? Don't tell me he only locked up single males or relied on criminals turning up in court.

        The best way to stop illegal migration is to remove the temptation. No job, home, driving license, education for children, healthcare etc. If you're concerned about locking up children away from Mothers, spend more on prisons for them. If you think ICE need more resources offer to pay more in taxes to employ the 100,000 of men needed.

        Tunnels being destroyed, because Walls work.





        Is Israel wrong to build a wall?



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        • Bladewire
          StraightBro
          • Aug 2003
          • 56228

          #19
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          I get the feeling that you and he want little done about it.
          You shouldn't trust your feelings Paul, they are way off base as usual.

          This is the last time I'm repeating myself to you on this topic.

          I'm against sanctuary cities immigration laws need to be enforced everywhere.

          Businesses that hire illegals should be penalized & owners face jail time & or community service.

          The vast majority of illegal immigrants in America come by plane on visitor visas, and overstay their visas. We need to track these people, where they stay, etc. and make sure they leave on schedule.

          We need more boots on the ground at the border and electronic surveillance.

          Here's an interactive map of our border wall for you Paul. We have 857 miles of wall at our border.

          The problem in America is Republicans want small government & cheap illegal labor so Republicans don't approve bills for hiring the number of government employees we would need to track these illegals and crackdown on businesses. Republicans say one thing about about illegal immigration and do another.

          Notice that Republicans have not approved Trump's border wall even though they've been in complete control of every aspect of the government for the last two years!


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          • J. Falcon
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            • May 2006
            • 31645

            #20
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            I get the feeling that he wants little done about it.
            I don't get that feeling at all.
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            • NewNick
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2009
              • 7229

              #21
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              I get the feeling that you and he want little done about it.
              Still at it Markham ?

              The Englishman living in Eastern Europe criticising Americans because they don’t hate illegal immigrants enough.

              Is that right Paul ?

              Am I understanding you correctly ?
              "Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
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              • NewNick
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2009
                • 7229

                #22
                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                I don't get that feeling at all.
                Paul is an economic migrant.

                Paul does not like brown skinned economic migrants.

                It shakes his sense of superiority because in fact Paul is a fucking hypocrite.

                Paul wishes the brown skinned migrants would go away because he thinks they make him look bad.

                Paul makes himself look bad. He does not need any help.
                "Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75733

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  If you want a 100% way to stop illegal migration please come up with ideas.
                  What we had under the last administration was working. We had less people coming over, and more of them were being deported.

                  The Trump administration is throwing more money into the situation and being less effective.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  So who do you want to deal with it?
                  We have two options here...

                  The first is having the Border Patrol operate in all areas. Put a Border Patrol office in every county and have them work on a county by county basis. Or, turn the county Sheriff's office into a Federal Agency.

                  The second is to have the federal government fund the local police departments. Give my local police department an extra million dollars each year so they can hire six more officers, so at any given time we can have one or two officers on duty to handle immigration issues. (Then pay the county jail to detain illegals.)

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  So you admit the present system is a failure.
                  I didn't say that at all. I said the Trump administration is being less effective while spending more money.

                  The Obama administration was being more effective while using less money, and didn't need to arrest people at local schools in front of kids.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  re.
                  So don't lock up law breakers and blame them for putting their children in harms way.
                  Illegal immigrants aren't a threat to society or here to harm children.

                  Also, we don't always arrest law breakers. I had a heavy foot when I was younger and a long list of traffic violations, but I was never arrested.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  The best way to stop illegal migration is to remove the temptation. No job, home, driving license, education for children, healthcare etc. If you're concerned about locking up children away from Mothers, spend more on prisons for them. If you think ICE need more resources offer to pay more in taxes to employ the 100,000 of men needed.
                  Yes and no.

                  They shouldn't be able to get a job. In order to get a job they should need to prove they are legally able to work in the US. Here in the US we have the E-Verify system which any employer can use.

                  You can only get healthcare if you have a job - or if you can afford it.

                  Children here illegally should not be allowed in the local school system.

                  Driver's licenses is different. If we do not allow them to get a DL they drive illegally, and if they are driving illegally they have no insurance. This causes huge problems in states where there are large populations of people here illegally, like California, Arizona, and Texas. Our insurance is a lot more expensive too.

                  As for ICE, it's ineffective. The purpose of ICE is to hunt down criminals who are here illegally. When I say criminals I mean people who have committed murder, robbery, and rape. We don't need a team of six to eight agents in three cars tracking and stalking a mother of three who is here illegally. It's just not cost effective and produces a low number of arrests. It would be much more effective having two Border Patrol agents in one car going to a work place that would typically hire illegals, arrest people in numbers, and shut down the business.

                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  Tunnels being destroyed, because Walls work.
                  Walls don't work. Most people who come here illegally don't cross through the desert in the middle of the night. The drive through customs. They say "I am here to visit my Aunt" and come across don't leave.

                  If it was up to me.... Anyone found in the United State illegally would be arrested and deported immediately. If they are caught in the United States illegally a second time, they go to prison. Two years for the first offense, four years for the second offense, eight years for the third offense. Children do not get thrown in prison, but instead get deported and sent back to their home country. If anyone comes to the United States and is caught here illegally, they are no longer able to become a US citizen - ever. At the same time, you need to have a system in place so people can come here legally. However, they need to do this BEFORE they come into the United States.

                  Also... This asylum bullshit needs to stop. The asylum system was set up so that if someone was being unfairly targeted and persecuted by the government of their country AND if the United States government thought your claim was valid AND the United States thought it would benefit from approving the asylum request.... Then someone could be granted asylum. Saying "I fear local gangs in my home country" is not a valid reason for asylum in the United States. We have gangs in the United States too.
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • King Mark
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 27033

                    #24
                    Paul is just a team player. He doesn't understand the logic of not picking a side and bipartisanship. In his eyes, if you don't want to do things the way his "team" (quotes because he ain't from nowhere around here) does things, then you don't want to do anything at all. To him, there's no possible way "the other side" can come up with anything better. That's the T.U.R.D. (The Ultra Right Party of Denialists & Deflectionists) way.

                    Like, this man dead ass brought up Isreal's wall... lmao

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                    • Phoenix
                      BACON BACON BACON
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 35475

                      #25
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                      • directfiesta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 30135

                        #26
                        Americans are so funny ... well not always ..../

                        Nobody, I repeat NOBODY is in favor of illegal immigration ( just thinking that a whole 50% of the country is for that shows how little intellect you have , probably using your ' gut " instead ) .

                        You need to redo completely your immigration process, from chain immigration ( Melania's family ) , assylum policies ( maybe make it possible to southern immigrants to apply for assylum in a consulate in their own country ), kids that were brought in the USA at a very young age ( The dreamers ) , and so on.

                        Also, companies ( Mar-a-lago as example ) and rich 1% should face devastating fines for employing illegals , and a registry of those infractions and illegals publuculy available ....

                        Building a wall will not stop illegals ... they are ressourcefull ...
                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                        • directfiesta
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 30135

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                          from the article you posted because you're not very smart.


                          A statement from Customs and Border Patrol

                          "On average last year, DHS prevented 10 individuals tied to terror—known or suspected terrorists—each day from traveling or attempting to travel to the United States. These are individuals that hit against U.S. terror watchlists. This is in addition to the 17,000 criminals and 3,000 special interest aliens that CBP apprehended at the border last year,” the statement said."
                          lol .....

                          But officials from the Customs and Border Protection office could not provide evidence of any such apprehension. A spokesperson for the CBP pointed to comments made by an unnamed Department of Homeland Security official in a fact sheet that was distributed by the White House on Tuesday.
                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                          • Rochard
                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 75733

                            #28
                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                            Americans are so funny ... well not always ..../

                            Nobody, I repeat NOBODY is in favor of illegal immigration ( just thinking that a whole 50% of the country is for that shows how little intellect you have , probably using your ' gut " instead ) .

                            You need to redo completely your immigration process, from chain immigration ( Melania's family ) , assylum policies ( maybe make it possible to southern immigrants to apply for assylum in a consulate in their own country ), kids that were brought in the USA at a very young age ( The dreamers ) , and so on.

                            Also, companies ( Mar-a-lago as example ) and rich 1% should face devastating fines for employing illegals , and a registry of those infractions and illegals publuculy available ....

                            Building a wall will not stop illegals ... they are ressourcefull ...
                            Great examples.

                            Trump is involved in chain immigration and hiring illegals at his hotels.
                            Herschel Savage
                            Brooklyn, NY

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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bladewire
                              You shouldn't trust your feelings Paul, they are way off base as usual.

                              This is the last time I'm repeating myself to you on this topic.

                              I'm against sanctuary cities immigration laws need to be enforced everywhere.

                              Businesses that hire illegals should be penalized & owners face jail time & or community service.

                              The vast majority of illegal immigrants in America come by plane on visitor visas, and overstay their visas. We need to track these people, where they stay, etc. and make sure they leave on schedule.

                              We need more boots on the ground at the border and electronic surveillance.

                              Here's an interactive map of our border wall for you Paul. We have 857 miles of wall at our border.

                              The problem in America is Republicans want small government & cheap illegal labor so Republicans don't approve bills for hiring the number of government employees we would need to track these illegals and crackdown on businesses. Republicans say one thing about about illegal immigration and do another.

                              Notice that Republicans have not approved Trump's border wall even though they've been in complete control of every aspect of the government for the last two years!
                              The Wall will not solve all the US's problem with illegal migration. It will only make crossing the border harder at the points where the Wall is. Tighter controls on employers, landlords, driving licences, schools, hospitals, etc are required.

                              But your last two paragraphs explained the problem, your governments refuse to tackle the problem head on and ignore the problem so business gets it's cheap labour.



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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                What we had under the last administration was working. We had less people coming over, and more of them were being deported.

                                The Trump administration is throwing more money into the situation and being less effective.
                                If previous administrations were working onthe problem, why is it still a problem?



                                We have two options here...

                                The first is having the Border Patrol operate in all areas. Put a Border Patrol office in every county and have them work on a county by county basis. Or, turn the county Sheriff's office into a Federal Agency.

                                The second is to have the federal government fund the local police departments. Give my local police department an extra million dollars each year so they can hire six more officers, so at any given time we can have one or two officers on duty to handle immigration issues. (Then pay the county jail to detain illegals.)
                                Agree, pay more taxes to support the new police.



                                I didn't say that at all. I said the Trump administration is being less effective while spending more money.

                                The Obama administration was being more effective while using less money, and didn't need to arrest people at local schools in front of kids.
                                So Trump needs to step up deporting those who got in.



                                Illegal immigrants aren't a threat to society or here to harm children.

                                Also, we don't always arrest law breakers. I had a heavy foot when I was younger and a long list of traffic violations, but I was never arrested.
                                Wrong. https://www.google.com/search?ei=v0c...KeozvM2nhkwill show you why. Then there's the damage they do to the incomes of hard working Americans, your schools, welfare system etc.



                                Yes and no.

                                They shouldn't be able to get a job. In order to get a job they should need to prove they are legally able to work in the US. Here in the US we have the E-Verify system which any employer can use.

                                You can only get healthcare if you have a job - or if you can afford it.

                                Children here illegally should not be allowed in the local school system.

                                Driver's licenses is different. If we do not allow them to get a DL they drive illegally, and if they are driving illegally they have no insurance. This causes huge problems in states where there are large populations of people here illegally, like California, Arizona, and Texas. Our insurance is a lot more expensive too.

                                As for ICE, it's ineffective. The purpose of ICE is to hunt down criminals who are here illegally. When I say criminals I mean people who have committed murder, robbery, and rape. We don't need a team of six to eight agents in three cars tracking and stalking a mother of three who is here illegally. It's just not cost effective and produces a low number of arrests. It would be much more effective having two Border Patrol agents in one car going to a work place that would typically hire illegals, arrest people in numbers, and shut down the business.
                                Truth is they do get jobs and are holding down the wages of Americans. But you did admit there are way to many of them.



                                Walls don't work. Most people who come here illegally don't cross through the desert in the middle of the night. The drive through customs. They say "I am here to visit my Aunt" and come across don't leave.
                                They do work, you're claiming they don't stop all illegal migration. A claim I never made.

                                If it was up to me.... Anyone found in the United State illegally would be arrested and deported immediately. If they are caught in the United States illegally a second time, they go to prison. Two years for the first offense, four years for the second offense, eight years for the third offense. Children do not get thrown in prison, but instead get deported and sent back to their home country. If anyone comes to the United States and is caught here illegally, they are no longer able to become a US citizen - ever. At the same time, you need to have a system in place so people can come here legally. However, they need to do this BEFORE they come into the United States.
                                Agree. Trump says the same, so you agree with Trump.

                                Also... This asylum bullshit needs to stop. The asylum system was set up so that if someone was being unfairly targeted and persecuted by the government of their country AND if the United States government thought your claim was valid AND the United States thought it would benefit from approving the asylum request.... Then someone could be granted asylum. Saying "I fear local gangs in my home country" is not a valid reason for asylum in the United States. We have gangs in the United States too.
                                Agreed.



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