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  • celandina
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2006
    • 11715

    #76
    Originally posted by Grapesoda
    I hope that NATO will not be that stupid, but eh, the World population needs some " pruning" so the idiots may start a 3rd WW. So, from six billion back to one, may not be such a bad idea. After all the Russians are due soon for another Great Patriotic War..

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    • Sid70
      Downshifter
      • Dec 2002
      • 16413

      #77
      Originally posted by klinton
      greetings from Mama
      deals are good ! you want to have constant war ?
      You don't understand my saying. Odessa would deal with anyone - means they will adjust even if Pootin invades.
      They are the weak point.
      And no, Ukraine does not want any deal of that type.
      Русня, идите нахуй!

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      • Tasty1
        Bla bla blaa
        • Jan 2005
        • 9527

        #78
        Originally posted by Sid70
        Holland sucked the plane thing deep enough to shut up and do noting, homos.
        That was also a reason people voted against Ukrain joining. A lot of people believe Ukrain knows more than they are saying. At least they could give a warning not to fly over there.

        everything is fake

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        • Sid70
          Downshifter
          • Dec 2002
          • 16413

          #79
          Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
          That was also a reason people voted against Ukrain joining. A lot of people believe Ukrain knows more than they are saying. At least they could give a warning not to fly over there.
          I know you will suck Putin's cocks when he comes.
          Русня, идите нахуй!

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          • Tasty1
            Bla bla blaa
            • Jan 2005
            • 9527

            #80
            Originally posted by Sid70
            I know you will suck Putin's cocks when he comes.
            Why would he come? Much more profit for him selling us the gas from Crimea.

            everything is fake

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            • Bladewire
              StraightBro
              • Aug 2003
              • 56229

              #81
              Putin is going to cause a lot of his population to be killed. Sad


              Skype: CallTomNow

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              • klinton
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2003
                • 8766

                #82
                Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
                Why would he come? Much more profit for him selling us the gas from Crimea.
                Hey man, I watched this Soldier Orange movie and it was kind of funny. Fresh perspective on ww2 for me, yes, but this whole occupation of Holland by Germans with Nazi twist seemed more like a picnic to me. Or more like a dispute among two friends, with one of them being mad (Germans) and other trying to be reasonable with him (Dutch).
                German behaviour towards Dutch had nothing in common with Germans behaviour towards Jews, Poles or Russians etc.
                Also, I loved, how the "brave" dutch resistance was saying frequently "but its dangerous" lol. Such a resistance...The only brave person in this movie from Dutch people was the Queen, as it says a lot...
                Its not what WW2 was about. If you want to watch what WW2 was about, watch some movie about Holocaust (many of them), occupation of Poland/ Soviet Union OR the best movie about Eastern front (and maybe the best movie about wars in general, "apocalypse now" in Russian, not for pussies). "Come and see" / "idi & smotri" is the title, and its the real shit...Especially 2nd part of it. Its on youtube, but i wont post it here, since its very brutal (and honest).

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                • Manfap
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2626

                  #83
                  Originally posted by celandina
                  Why they claim that beside the majority vote, they also claim an ancestral right to self-determination.

                  Nope still dont get it.. explain, in the case of Scotland, what exactly you are trying to say.

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                  • Tasty1
                    Bla bla blaa
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 9527

                    #84
                    Originally posted by klinton
                    Hey man, I watched this Soldier Orange movie and it was kind of funny. Fresh perspective on ww2 for me, yes, but this whole occupation of Holland by Germans with Nazi twist seemed more like a picnic to me. Or more like a dispute among two friends, with one of them being mad (Germans) and other trying to be reasonable with him (Dutch).
                    German behaviour towards Dutch had nothing in common with Germans behaviour towards Jews, Poles or Russians etc.
                    Also, I loved, how the "brave" dutch resistance was saying frequently "but its dangerous" lol. Such a resistance...The only brave person in this movie from Dutch people was the Queen, as it says a lot...
                    Its not what WW2 was about. If you want to watch what WW2 was about, watch some movie about Holocaust (many of them), occupation of Poland/ Soviet Union OR the best movie about Eastern front (and maybe the best movie about wars in general, "apocalypse now" in Russian, not for pussies). "Come and see" / "idi & smotri" is the title, and its the real shit...Especially 2nd part of it. Its on youtube, but i wont post it here, since its very brutal (and honest).
                    The Orange Soldier, (Soldaat van Oranje) is another movie, is much older. After the war the writer write a book about the students he went to university with and what happened to them during the war. He went with a small ship to England and returned to fight with the resistance. The group students also had friends who supported the Nazis. I have read some about politics after WW II, the people responsible or helping the nazis got the best positions again in politics .. they hoped for a new period, but that only happened after the 60's.

                    The Orange Soldier said after the war, "suddenly everyone was in the resistance during WW II, while it was a small group". Look at Ukrain, there also is a big group in favour of Russia. These people also won't resist and help Russia. In Srebrenica former neighbours slaughtered each other.

                    If there is a war needed between European countries to get Crimea back, it will not be worth it. And most in Crimea support Russians. I for sure wouldn't start fighting. I learned from our Queen that it is saver to stay away.

                    I haven't heard much about the war from my grandparents, don't talk about it. They lived on the farmer site of Holland and i bet they where not hungry. I only know family gave shelter to a familiy of jews. The father and mother got killed 20 years later in the first terror attack in Holland when people from a former colony hijacked a train in Holland.

                    Recently i saw a dutch tv serie about one of the richest dutch people after WW II Pieter Menten. Till in 1976 a Dutch journalist exposed where the money came from. Unbelievable how many people helped Pieter Menten and didn't help to get the paintings he collected to WW II back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Menten

                    Another reason not to get into a war, big change a big % of the people in your land doesn't care or support the enemy. And why should i risk my life for the EU when it goes wrong in Crimea. So i can watch on TV how Merkel makes a deal with Russia for more gas to make more money so Russia can buy weapons to fight us?
                    I am not falling for that one.

                    everything is fake

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                    • celandina
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 11715

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Manfap
                      Nope still dont get it.. explain, in the case of Scotland, what exactly you are trying to say.
                      Off and on the Scotts want an idependence from the Crown, if they ever vote over 50 % then they get it. Why not the Crimean ( Bask, Northern Irish, etc.) populations. Cannot make it any clearer

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                      • Sid70
                        Downshifter
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 16413

                        #86
                        Originally posted by celandina
                        Off and on the Scotts want an idependence from the Crown, if they ever vote over 50 % then they get it. Why not the Crimean ( Bask, Northern Irish, etc.) populations. Cannot make it any clearer
                        The ways are different, don't you understand?
                        Русня, идите нахуй!

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                        • Sid70
                          Downshifter
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 16413

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
                          Why would he come? Much more profit for him selling us the gas from Crimea.
                          We, in Ukraine, asked ourself the same silly question, why would a friendly country ( more or less ) invade Ukraine.
                          Русня, идите нахуй!

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                          • klinton
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 8766

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Sid70
                            We, in Ukraine, asked ourself the same silly question, why would a friendly country ( more or less ) invade Ukraine.
                            maybe he stopped consider you as "friends" when you kicked out the Victor from the East :PPP in 2014
                            and basically wanted to cut off economical and (soon, expected) military ties with RUS and choose another partners...

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                            • klinton
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 8766

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Menten
                              "In 1951 the Dutch government refused a Polish request for Menten's extradition. "
                              .....

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                              • Tasty1
                                Bla bla blaa
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 9527

                                #90
                                Originally posted by klinton
                                "In 1951 the Dutch government refused a Polish request for Menten's extradition. "
                                .....
                                I see there is a movie made out of it for international audience.
                                https://www.jweekly.com/2017/02/24/m...-war-criminal/

                                everything is fake

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