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  • ilnjscb
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2009
    • 8972

    #61
    So, we see a good slice of life here. Ancient arguments, name calling, bullshit. Meaning this is going to be an action that results in belligerence on a global scale.

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    • klinton
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2003
      • 8766

      #62
      Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
      Do you think i would wait for NATO to help Holland when Russia invades Holland? By that time i am long gone and living on some beach. Like i am doing now. I don't live to get into wars. And certainly not for some dumb political leaders with their own agenda.
      ??????
      so this movie wasnt based on facts ???


      such a dissapointment ! I thought that the Dutch resistance in ww2 was "as strong" as French and Czech ! such a dissapointment !

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      • VRPdommy
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2014
        • 13000

        #63
        Originally posted by Sid70
        See dickhead, no interference. Russia invaded and forced it, stupid bitch.
        Not to worry. They claim some sort of justification with those elections, but 60% of those voting were the troupes sent in to invade. They were not wearing uniforms but plain clothes.
        Not many really noticed though since most in Crimea speak Russian to start with.
        It was well known even the day of the election, The population suddenly doubled. But the plain clothed troupes had been there for months as 'freedom fighters'.

        It's now time to up the ante on the play. Take off the velvet gloves before they make larger moves.
        And you all should know there will be larger moves if we do nothing.

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        • Tasty1
          Bla bla blaa
          • Jan 2005
          • 9528

          #64
          Originally posted by klinton
          ??????
          so this movie wasnt based on facts ???


          such a dissapointment ! I thought that the Dutch resistance in ww2 was "as strong" as French and Czech ! such a dissapointment !

          Soldaat van Oranje, Orange Soldier, the most famous person in the Dutch resistance.
          After the war he went to live in Canada. And he was angry cause after the war nothing changed politicaly and people that where wrong or didn't resist got the best jobs again.

          The state of the military is bad in Holland. Just like before WW2. Dutch soldiers even haven't got a qualified shooting range. They had to close the last one cause it was unsafe (thin wooden fencesinstead of concrete) and a soldier got killed. And that is when they have ammunition, most of the time they have to shout Pang Pang (not kidding, a minister laughed about it cause he found that funny, while he sends troop to wars). A mortar exploded and killed 2 dutch soldiers cause the army used old second hand ones, they had to buy quickly cause they where run out. I was in military 9 months and realy, those people are so dump and stupid. Not capable of thinking themselves. People that in real life won't be able to have a good career.

          So, i won't be fighting. Shouting pang-pang to some planes or cruise missile isn't smart. And why fight, they want 1 big Europe, and Russia is Europe. Than they have what they want. I was against the Ukrain treaty just for that. And if there will be a war, i would buy my own weapons, easier and better.

          My brother was in Srebrenica when the enclave went down. He was in the bunker with Karremans (that guy on the picture). He had to sent the messages from Karremans to drop bombs on/near their own positions. but the France and other backed of. Another reason for me never to count on an EU army or NATO. He could tell weeks before what was happening cause he could make phone calls... my mother could hear the bombs falling when he called. but the politicians didn't know…. they say.. And that politician that laughed about soldiers having to shout pang-pang. That political party insisted that Holland would only go to Srebrenica with minor weapons, cause it was a peace mission.... the last 2 months they even hadn't gasoline or much food. And nobody thought about helping them. Children who where begging at the gates for food and they gave it to them… where was NATO? Where was EU?

          So that is my advice like a said several years before. Leave, and come back in a few years. Or try making a good economy in the part of the Ukrain that is still Ukrain. It is already better i heard, know people that go on holiday there.

          everything is fake

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          • celandina
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2006
            • 11715

            #65
            Originally Posted by celandina View Post
            Just ask the Israelis, the Irish, the Basks, the Kosovars, the Scotts, the Balts, the Suddeten Germans and yes the Ukrainians....the list goes on....
            Originally posted by Manfap
            Ask them what?
            Why they claim that beside the majority vote, they also claim an ancestral right to self-determination.

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            • klinton
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2003
              • 8766

              #66
              Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
              My brother was in Srebrenica when the enclave went down. He was in the bunker with Karremans (that guy on the picture). He had to sent the messages from Karremans to drop bombs on/near their own positions. but the France and other backed of. Another reason for me never to count on an EU army or NATO. He could tell weeks before what was happening cause he could make phone calls... my mother could hear the bombs falling when he called. but the politicians didn't know…. they say.. And that politician that laughed about soldiers having to shout pang-pang. That political party insisted that Holland would only go to Srebrenica with minor weapons, cause it was a peace mission.... the last 2 months they even hadn't gasoline or much food. And nobody thought about helping them. Children who where begging at the gates for food and they gave it to them… where was NATO? Where was EU?

              So that is my advice like a said several years before. Leave, and come back in a few years. Or try making a good economy in the part of the Ukrain that is still Ukrain. It is already better i heard, know people that go on holiday there.
              You know, sometimes it's all about being less pragmatic, less calculated and more brave and emotiuonal. Vietnamese had inferior arms to USA, yet they kicked US out of their country....(and brought communism at the same time...).
              Poles in 1939 were fucked by Nazis, later Soviets, betrayed by their western "allies" like France especially, yet they built their own whole Underground Country with its own structures (like schools for example - Polish people were not meant to have any education greater than first 4 classes, according to Nazi doctrine), with the biggest partisans army in ww2 (right after soviets) and were HUGE pain in the ass for the Germans in ww2...
              Poster like this was simply not possible in Poland

              Of course, these days, saying that Russia will invade any country is simply a lie. They are not interested in that... What for ? Better destabilize Ukraine,its closest neighbour, spread propaganda on the west and do some business everywhere...
              btw. I will watch that movie Orange Soldier, has to be interesting :>

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              • Tasty1
                Bla bla blaa
                • Jan 2005
                • 9528

                #67
                Originally posted by klinton
                You know, sometimes it's all about being less pragmatic, less calculated and more brave and emotiuonal. Vietnamese had inferior arms to USA, yet they kicked US out of their country....(and brought communism at the same time...).
                Poles in 1939 were fucked by Nazis, later Soviets, betrayed by their western "allies" like France especially, yet they built their own whole Underground Country with its own structures (like schools for example - Polish people were not meant to have any education greater than first 4 classes, according to Nazi doctrine), with the biggest partisans army in ww2 (right after soviets) and were HUGE pain in the ass for the Germans in ww2...
                Poster like this was simply not possible in Poland

                Of course, these days, saying that Russia will invade any country is simply a lie. They are not interested in that... What for ? Better destabilize Ukraine,its closest neighbour, spread propaganda on the west and do some business everywhere...
                btw. I will watch that movie Orange Soldier, has to be interesting :>
                Brave means many times you will be canon food as we call it. I haven't paid so much taxes to should Pang Pang when Holland is in trouble. They should have invested more, but didn't cause other problems costed more. But my life is more important than shouting Pang Pang. I only have been to Holland 2 months last 8 years. And why if there is a real war, why fight in Holland while there must be enough enemies living in other countries that could be targeted more easy? I see Russians, Israelians, Ukrains, Syrian people everywhere.

                Good if the people try to get back whole Ukrain. But don't let the whole world get involved. What will happen than is the same as in Syria, Ukrain will be used to settle some conflicts between other countries and they will let Ukrains die to get their goal by sending weapons to rebels in Ukrain. Like Turkye, Russia, Iran, Irak, EU all fighting in Syria against assad and eachother. Nobody cares about Syria, only about their own world wide agenda. Syria / Ukrain will just be the battle ground.

                everything is fake

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                • klinton
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 8766

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
                  Good if the people try to get back whole Ukrain.
                  Ukraine is kind of diverse and "fresh" country, with low awareness of citizen-ship spirit. This situation was exploited and now it is like it is...Dont worry, it wont get much worse IMO.
                  they have a great and cheap herbal vodka, just finishing one

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                  • Sid70
                    Downshifter
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 16413

                    #69
                    Originally posted by klinton
                    nein nein nein !
                    Holland sucked the plane thing deep enough to shut up and do noting, homos.
                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                    • Sid70
                      Downshifter
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 16413

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

                      Do you think i would wait for NATO to help Holland when Russia invades Holland? By that time i am long gone and living on some beach. Like i am doing now. I don't live to get into wars. And certainly not for some dumb political leaders with their own agenda.
                      The smartest thing you said. Did. Now get the fuck outta here.
                      Русня, идите нахуй!

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                      • O MARINA
                        I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 13796

                        #71
                        My people the funniest

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                        • Sid70
                          Downshifter
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 16413

                          #72
                          Originally posted by O MARINA
                          My people the funniest
                          Odessa would make a deal. With anyone. Indeed. Those are your people.
                          Русня, идите нахуй!

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                          • O MARINA
                            I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 13796

                            #73
                            edited ...

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                            • klinton
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 8766

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Sid70
                              Odessa would make a deal. With anyone. Indeed. Those are your people.
                              greetings from Mama
                              deals are good ! you want to have constant war ?

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                              • Grapesoda
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 46238

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                It was only a matter of time. Did you really think Russia was going to stop with Crimea?

                                Putin knows Trump will do nothing.
                                history repeates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge..._Light_Brigade

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