Belgium legally euthanizes adults with depression, personality disorder and Aspergers - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 11-27-2018, 10:31 AM

I had no idea Belgium & the Netherlands doctors euthanize humans for these disorders.

Do you think this is right or do you think this is wrong to do?

I think it's great! Cull the herd. What are your thoughts?

Belgium investigates doctors who euthanized autistic woman

LONDON (AP) — Belgian officials are investigating whether doctors improperly euthanized a woman with autism, the first criminal investigation in a euthanasia case since the practice was legalized in 2002.

Three doctors from East Flanders are being investigated on suspicion of having "poisoned" Tine Nys in 2010. The 38-year-old had been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, a mild form of autism, two months before she died in an apparently legal killing by a doctor.

Belgium is one of two countries, along with the Netherlands, where euthanasia of people for psychiatric reasons is allowed if they can prove they have "unbearable and untreatable" suffering. Among Belgians euthanized for mental health reasons, the most common conditions are depression, personality disorder and Asperger's. Many experts — in Belgium and beyond— dispute whether autism should be considered a valid reason to be killed.

Last year, the Associated Press reported that after Nys' family filed a criminal complaint, alleging numerous "irregularities" in her death, her doctors attempted to block the investigation.

"We must try to stop these people," wrote Dr. Lieve Thienpont, the psychiatrist who approved Nys' request to die — and one of the doctors now facing charges. "It is a seriously dysfunctional, wounded, traumatized family with very little empathy and respect for others," the message read.

Sophie Nys, one of Tine's sisters, told the AP that the doctor who performed the euthanasia asked her parents to hold the needle in place while he administered the fatal injection, among other fumbling efforts. Afterward, the doctor asked the family to use a stethoscope to confirm that Tine's heart had stopped.

Belgium's Chamber of Indictment "presumes that there are sufficient indications in this particular case" and the doctors involved have been referred to the Court of Assize in Ghent. They will now face trial "due to poisoning," said Francis Clarysse, a Ghent prosecutor.

Concerns have previously been raised about whether Thienpont, Nys' psychiatrist, too easily approved euthanasia requests from patients with mental illness.

The AP previously published documents revealing a rift between Thienpont and Dr. Wim Distelmans, who heads Belgium's euthanasia review commission. Distelmans voiced fears that Thienpont and colleagues may have failed to meet certain legal requirements in some euthanasia cases — and wrote that he would no longer accept referred patients from Thienpont.

In the 15 years since doctors were granted the right to legally kill patients, more than 10,000 people have been euthanized. Only one case has previously been referred to prosecutors; that case was later dropped.

Matt-ADX · 11-27-2018, 10:43 AM

One of those really really tough moral conundrum's. I honestly can't say how I feel, part of me wants them to be happy and if it's being put out of their misery then so be it, then I wonder if people are maybe making a mistake, what defines "unbearable and untreatable" does this open pandora's box?

What about some social issues that are also now causing more depression, we need to look at the consequences of that and how to fix them before we might open Door A which causes depression and thus causing people to kill themselves.

11-27-2018, 10:31 AM	#1
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	Belgium legally euthanizes adults with depression, personality disorder and Aspergers I had no idea Belgium & the Netherlands doctors euthanize humans for these disorders. Do you think this is right or do you think this is wrong to do? I think it's great! Cull the herd. What are your thoughts? Belgium investigates doctors who euthanized autistic woman LONDON (AP) — Belgian officials are investigating whether doctors improperly euthanized a woman with autism, the first criminal investigation in a euthanasia case since the practice was legalized in 2002. Three doctors from East Flanders are being investigated on suspicion of having "poisoned" Tine Nys in 2010. The 38-year-old had been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, a mild form of autism, two months before she died in an apparently legal killing by a doctor. Belgium is one of two countries, along with the Netherlands, where euthanasia of people for psychiatric reasons is allowed if they can prove they have "unbearable and untreatable" suffering. Among Belgians euthanized for mental health reasons, the most common conditions are depression, personality disorder and Asperger's. Many experts — in Belgium and beyond— dispute whether autism should be considered a valid reason to be killed. Last year, the Associated Press reported that after Nys' family filed a criminal complaint, alleging numerous "irregularities" in her death, her doctors attempted to block the investigation. "We must try to stop these people," wrote Dr. Lieve Thienpont, the psychiatrist who approved Nys' request to die — and one of the doctors now facing charges. "It is a seriously dysfunctional, wounded, traumatized family with very little empathy and respect for others," the message read. Sophie Nys, one of Tine's sisters, told the AP that the doctor who performed the euthanasia asked her parents to hold the needle in place while he administered the fatal injection, among other fumbling efforts. Afterward, the doctor asked the family to use a stethoscope to confirm that Tine's heart had stopped. Belgium's Chamber of Indictment "presumes that there are sufficient indications in this particular case" and the doctors involved have been referred to the Court of Assize in Ghent. They will now face trial "due to poisoning," said Francis Clarysse, a Ghent prosecutor. Concerns have previously been raised about whether Thienpont, Nys' psychiatrist, too easily approved euthanasia requests from patients with mental illness. The AP previously published documents revealing a rift between Thienpont and Dr. Wim Distelmans, who heads Belgium's euthanasia review commission. Distelmans voiced fears that Thienpont and colleagues may have failed to meet certain legal requirements in some euthanasia cases — and wrote that he would no longer accept referred patients from Thienpont. In the 15 years since doctors were granted the right to legally kill patients, more than 10,000 people have been euthanized. Only one case has previously been referred to prosecutors; that case was later dropped.

11-27-2018, 10:43 AM	#2
Matt-ADX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 1,497	One of those really really tough moral conundrum's. I honestly can't say how I feel, part of me wants them to be happy and if it's being put out of their misery then so be it, then I wonder if people are maybe making a mistake, what defines "unbearable and untreatable" does this open pandora's box? What about some social issues that are also now causing more depression, we need to look at the consequences of that and how to fix them before we might open Door A which causes depression and thus causing people to kill themselves.