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  • thommy
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 5469
    #51
    Originally posted by Paul Markham


    Nothing you do is so complicated it can't be done in house.
    correct.

    you can also buy a cow if you like to drink a glass of milk every day.
    you can open a car factory because you have a car.
    you can open a telephone company because you have a phone.
    and you can even open a toilette paper company because you use it.

    and I am pretty sure that a paul markham will be able to do ALL THAT MUCH better than the existing
    solutions.


    you are an economic cripple, paul.
    you do not understand even the basics of economy - that´s why you never got somewhere.
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      • thommy
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        • Jun 2003
        • 5469
        #52
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        Agreed it's much harder today than it ever was.

        ahhh here we go :-)

        if i have understood that correctly, you wish things would be so simple again that any idiot can do them without effort, knowledge and big money.

        THIS is not only against any logic but is exactly what made you so unsuccessful.
        because what made you "special" in the good old days is done today from every asshole.

        you don't need any knowledge, no big investment of money and not much working time to produce porn videos.

        and therefore there is MUCH MORE of it today and not even with these dilettantes you could keep up more.

        so you lost against amateurs what means you are the OPPOSITE of a professional.
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          • Beaver1
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            • Dec 2002
            • 651
            #53
            Originally posted by thommy
            I have seen many webmasters trying it on their own and they came back after 6 or 12 month because they saw that they made 50-70% less than the adnetwork paid them.
            And the affiliate programm went back to the webmaster and did their own media buying,
            for half of the money, with the numbers they got before,
            as soon as he place the ad codes again.


            My theory is that ad networks, media buyers, and programs are the same people,
            and everything else is just a gimmick to control the market, hide sales,
            and move earnings from high to low tax countries.
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              • plsureking
                bored
                • Aug 2003
                • 4904
                #54
                side note - i'm impressed by the number of people on their machines trying to make money on a sunday.. it wasn't like this 6 months ago or a year ago.. business is bouncing back..

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                  • thommy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 5469
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Beaver1
                    And the affiliate programm went back to the webmaster and did their own media buying,
                    for half of the money, with the numbers they got before,
                    as soon as he place the ad codes again.

                    oh what a new conspiracy theory :-)

                    you really do not need such theories because everything is logic what happens here.

                    the "affiliate program 3.0" is not what was it a few years ago.

                    90% of the affiliate revenues are running through affiliateprograms that do not have own offers. they are presenting ALL offers they can get on ONE plattform to THOUSANDS of media buyers.

                    the program owners have changed their affiliate team from sometimes 100 to ONE single person that is only dealing with this affiliate 3.0 programms.

                    and they live from the money that the 99 other affiliatemanagers used to get before from the program owner.

                    i mean even here at GFY there are MUCH MUCH MORE such "affiliate 3.0" systems are writing than program owners - this is not to oversee.

                    My theory is that ad networks, media buyers, and programs are the same people,
                    and everything else is just a gimmick to control the market, hide sales,
                    and move earnings from high to low tax countries.
                    in that point you are right in some cases of VERY big companies.

                    sure that those wanted to keep their market share and they indeed bought some "affiliate 3.0 programs" and also some smaller networks.

                    but what shall be wrong on that? this is market expansion and at the end of the day they
                    have to compete still with all the others.

                    a webmaster will not chose a network what is focused to sell traffic cheap to own products. so they have only the chance to give them the same or they will lose traffic and marketshare.

                    in this biz as in ever other biz it is all around competition and lowering costs.
                    all that is only to reach when you concentrate things to make them big enough to get the best conditions.

                    as a small one in this game you have to be VERY smart to survive. but as soon as one is smart he will be smart enough to know that it is much more effective to swim with the stream as against it. so who swims hardly against the stream CAN NOT be called smart.
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                      • Beaver1
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 651
                        #56
                        Originally posted by thommy
                        swim with the stream as against it. so who swims hardly against the stream CAN NOT be called smart.
                        It looks like i need a new bank accountant she always
                        told me swim against the stream:-)
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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942
                            #57
                            Originally posted by thommy
                            i am quite sure that you do not even know what you are talking about when you speak from
                            5 $ per thousand.

                            you do not even know the used measurements for pricing in this industry and you want to tell the world how it works.

                            but maybe i make millions of revenue every fucking year because of this "zero knowledge".
                            even that would mean that i know better than you how to make money.

                            but i know you would be happy if everyone comes down on your level and cry with you
                            because you feel fucking lonely there.
                            So tell us OH wise one. How much does porn traffic sell for? Then everyone can come to you.



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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942
                                #58
                                Originally posted by thommy
                                correct.

                                you can also buy a cow if you like to drink a glass of milk every day.
                                you can open a car factory because you have a car.
                                you can open a telephone company because you have a phone.
                                and you can even open a toilette paper company because you use it.

                                and I am pretty sure that a paul markham will be able to do ALL THAT MUCH better than the existing
                                solutions.


                                you are an economic cripple, paul.
                                you do not understand even the basics of economy - that´s why you never got somewhere.
                                We had a porn industry producing and selling porn on multiple levels. Until free porn shut most down.



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                                  • Paul Markham
                                    Too old to care
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by thommy
                                    ahhh here we go :-)

                                    if i have understood that correctly, you wish things would be so simple again that any idiot can do them without effort, knowledge and big money.

                                    THIS is not only against any logic but is exactly what made you so unsuccessful.
                                    because what made you "special" in the good old days is done today from every asshole.

                                    you don't need any knowledge, no big investment of money and not much working time to produce porn videos.

                                    and therefore there is MUCH MORE of it today and not even with these dilettantes you could keep up more.

                                    so you lost against amateurs what means you are the OPPOSITE of a professional.
                                    So tell Rochard, plsureking and all the other people who find it harder today.

                                    What you know about producing porn videos isn't a lot. How many successful porn videos have you created?



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                                      • thommy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 5469
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Beaver1
                                        It looks like i need a new bank accountant she always
                                        told me swim against the stream:-)
                                        well sometimes that can work but what she meant was obviously "anticyclical".
                                        and here is another prove because if EVERYBODY works anticyclical it is not anticyclical.
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                                          • thommy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 5469
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                            So tell us OH wise one. How much does porn traffic sell for? Then everyone can come to you.
                                            please tell me the pricing model you refer to :-)
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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                in that point you are right in some cases of VERY big companies.

                                                sure that those wanted to keep their market share and they indeed bought some "affiliate 3.0 programs" and also some smaller networks.

                                                but what shall be wrong on that? this is market expansion and at the end of the day they
                                                have to compete still with all the others.

                                                a webmaster will not chose a network what is focused to sell traffic cheap to own products. so they have only the chance to give them the same or they will lose traffic and marketshare.

                                                in this biz as in ever other biz it is all around competition and lowering costs.
                                                all that is only to reach when you concentrate things to make them big enough to get the best conditions.

                                                as a small one in this game you have to be VERY smart to survive. but as soon as one is smart he will be smart enough to know that it is much more effective to swim with the stream as against it. so who swims hardly against the stream CAN NOT be called smart.
                                                So are you agreeing with me now that big companies handle things in house?

                                                The problem with swimming with the stream is all the competition and doing what's done to death.



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                                                  • thommy
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                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 5469
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                    So tell Rochard, plsureking and all the other people who find it harder today.

                                                    What you know about producing porn videos isn't a lot. How many successful porn videos have you created?
                                                    did i ever say somewhere it is easier ?

                                                    please copy and paste it for me.

                                                    what i said is the OPPOSITE of that.
                                                    sure it is HARDER but that is the reason why LESS people make now MORE money as in this good old times. because they WORK harder and have MUCH MORE knowledge.
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                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                        Too old to care
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 52942
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                        side note - i'm impressed by the number of people on their machines trying to make money on a sunday.. it wasn't like this 6 months ago or a year ago.. business is bouncing back..

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                                                        It could be they have to work Sundays now. Never had to work a 7 day week in my time.



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                                                          • thommy
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                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 5469
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                            So are you agreeing with me now that big companies handle things in house?
                                                            nope - the opposite is the case.
                                                            they outsource - but in some cases and when it makes sense they are buying the outsource company.


                                                            The problem with swimming with the stream is all the competition and doing what's done to death.
                                                            swimming with the stream does not mean to work with a success recipe.

                                                            you should not try digging gold where no gold is.
                                                            but if you digging gold where it is you must be better than the rest.

                                                            it is VERY easy paul.
                                                            if you where right everything would be AUTOMATICALLY the way you say.
                                                            but also AUTOMATICALLY a part of the people will be smarter than the other and they
                                                            cut every day a bigger piece from the cake. and as dumber the competitors are as easier they will take the complete cake.

                                                            so it´s like everywhere in life. live smart or die dumb.
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                                                              • thommy
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 5469
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                It could be they have to work Sundays now. Never had to work a 7 day week in my time.
                                                                or it could be that they love their work and would not know what else to do.
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                                                                  • plsureking
                                                                    bored
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 4904
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by thommy
                                                                    or it could be that they love their work and would not know what else to do.


                                                                    i'm rotating between my desk, my waterfront deck for cigars, and visiting with my wife and kid in their parts of the house.

                                                                    i could just sit around the house pretending i'm retired because i can't figure out how to make money online anymore - but Paul got that title locked down



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                                                                      • Beaver1
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                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 651
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                        It could be they have to work Sundays now.
                                                                        Offcourse on Sunday since my first BTX Site.
                                                                        The Week Day with the most Traffic and Sales.
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                                                                          • thommy
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                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 5469
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by Beaver1
                                                                            Offcourse on Sunday since my first BTX Site.
                                                                            The Week Day with the most Traffic and Sales.
                                                                            ...and not to forget that you get things done on sundays thanks to the sunday relaxers that will not contact you.
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                                                                              • plsureking
                                                                                bored
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 4904
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                ...and not to forget that you get things done on sundays thanks to the sunday relaxers that will not contact you.
                                                                                coincidental to this thread, sunday is when i get all my affiliate stuff and fun projects done. like Thommy said, email is quiet lol



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                                                                                  • AmeliaG
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                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 10663
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                    please tell me the pricing model you refer to :-)
                                                                                    I think he was referring to simple CPM
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                                                                                      • thommy
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                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 5469
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                        I think he was referring to simple CPM
                                                                                        I don´t think so - he said 5$ for 1000.

                                                                                        but that´s the point that he does not even know what he is talking about.
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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                            nope - the opposite is the case.
                                                                                            they outsource - but in some cases and when it makes sense they are buying the outsource company.
                                                                                            So you are agreeing with me. Where it makes sense they do things in-house.



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                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 52942
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                or it could be that they love their work and would not know what else to do.
                                                                                                So not working because there is more money to be made.



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                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                    I don´t think so - he said 5$ for 1000.

                                                                                                    but that´s the point that he does not even know what he is talking about.
                                                                                                    So tell us what you pay for Tube traffic.



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                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                        coincidental to this thread, sunday is when i get all my affiliate stuff and fun projects done. like Thommy said, email is quiet lol



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                                                                                                        Originally posted by thommy
                                                                                                        ...and not to forget that you get things done on sundays thanks to the sunday relaxers that will not contact you.
                                                                                                        Get one of your staff to do these things. I'm assuming you make enough money to hire staff.

                                                                                                        We had 8 people working for us.



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                                                                                                          • mrmarcman
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                                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                                            • 1293
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            I have a few but not so many. I think these days you must be your own #1 affiliate.
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                                                                                                              • plsureking
                                                                                                                bored
                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                • 4904
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                Get one of your staff to do these things. I'm assuming you make enough money to hire staff.

                                                                                                                We had 8 people working for us.
                                                                                                                you dont have anyone working for you. stop talking so much shit.



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                                                                                                                  • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                    • 94730
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Now you've got Paul Markham all riled up . . .

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                                                                                                                      • plsureking
                                                                                                                        bored
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                        • 4904
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                        Now you've got Paul Markham all riled up . . .
                                                                                                                        he's got nothing else to do. his plan until he dies is to troll gfy and try to convince everybody that porn is dead. if he can't make money in porn, no one else can either.

                                                                                                                        the truth is, he wasn't that big a deal even in his gold rush years. everybody i worked with back then was bigger. we all thought his content was crap..

                                                                                                                        how's that for a legacy

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                                                                                                                          • Matyko
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                                                                                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                            • 8681
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            We are still selling lots of paysite memberships as affiliates.
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                                                                                                                              • beavr
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                                                                                                                                • Sep 2015
                                                                                                                                • 563
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                I'd also vouch that affiliate is rather dead, specifically in porn.

                                                                                                                                Basically there are some few sites only that managed to built somehow long term strategy with affiliate source of earnings. Other than that it's rather short time. At the end you lose customers going to paysites. Especially since you have got huge free porn aggregators on the other hand that barely rely on affiliate model. That pond is pumped out now.
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                                                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                    you dont have anyone working for you. stop talking so much shit.



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                                                                                                                                    Of course I don't have anyone working for me now. I retired at 58. You're the one that's convinced you will need to work till you die.



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                                                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                        he's got nothing else to do. his plan until he dies is to troll gfy and try to convince everybody that porn is dead. if he can't make money in porn, no one else can either.

                                                                                                                                        the truth is, he wasn't that big a deal even in his gold rush years. everybody i worked with back then was bigger. we all thought his content was crap..

                                                                                                                                        how's that for a legacy

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                                                                                                                                        So the gold rush years were better for you. Is it harder today?

                                                                                                                                        Porn isn't dead, it's harder today. But please argue your point with the rest of those who say that and stop trolling me by agreeing porn is harder today.



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                                                                                                                                          • plsureking
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                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 4904
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                            Of course I don't have anyone working for me now. I retired at 58. You're the one that's convinced you will need to work till you die.
                                                                                                                                            you retired with what? a small house and a pound a day for a loaf of bread? you retired because you couldn't make money in the porn market anymore and no one wanted to buy your content from the 80s.

                                                                                                                                            i've earned enough to retire twice already. i have enough passive income to stop working right now. we own a large house in Thailand, paid for, gold and cash offshore, and we just moved back to the US to profit from the new business environment. money is growing on trees right now.

                                                                                                                                            i'm still working cuz there's more to earn. there's a difference. 58 is pretty young to retire from the web unless you are forced out. you still spend all day online. you just can't earn any money on it.

                                                                                                                                            keep believing you're a baller tho. whatever gets u thru the day!

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                                                                                                                                              • Holly Lez!
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                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 3480
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                                                Difficult doesn't mean dead . . .
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                                                                                                                                                  • crockett
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                                                                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 76818
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by ANAL PASTE
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                                                                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                                                                                        you retired with what? a small house and a pound a day for a loaf of bread? you retired because you couldn't make money in the porn market anymore and no one wanted to buy your content from the 80s.

                                                                                                                                                        i've earned enough to retire twice already. i have enough passive income to stop working right now. we own a large house in Thailand, paid for, gold and cash offshore, and we just moved back to the US to profit from the new business environment. money is growing on trees right now.

                                                                                                                                                        i'm still working cuz there's more to earn. there's a difference. 58 is pretty young to retire from the web unless you are forced out. you still spend all day online. you just can't earn any money on it.

                                                                                                                                                        keep believing you're a baller tho. whatever gets u thru the day!

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                                                                                                                                                        I retired because I had bad health issues. 50 is a good age to retire which I intended to do. Meeting Eva changed that. I had planned to go live in Thailand.

                                                                                                                                                        We 3 live in a 3,000 sq ft house, we most certainly don't live on a pound a day and a tiny of amount of my content was from the 80s. I spend very little time online. So as you started out with string of lies we'll all assume the rest is lies as well.

                                                                                                                                                        The truth, which you told us, is you're a one man band who works from home, who has to work Saturdays and Sundays because you can't afford to employ people. Either you don't have enough work or not making enough or a combination of both.

                                                                                                                                                        You find it harder now than you did in the past because your CMS doesn't make as much as you did when working as an affiliate.



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                                                                                                                                                          • Grisey
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                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                            • 1805
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                            I used to have blogs and now I can't get traffic to the blogs to save my life....
                                                                                                                                                            Honestly, look at the sites you are promoting, look at add something fresh from mcprofits, you don't have any zishy content from what i can see no cosmid No epicpandacash

                                                                                                                                                            I did $550 last month from Epicpanda alone

                                                                                                                                                            People that complain, don't take a wider look at there sites and what they are promoting, if your site becomes stagnet, so does your sales.

                                                                                                                                                            This month is looking to be my best month as affiliate since i came back last year (paysite affiliate sales only )

                                                                                                                                                            Like rochard, why you posting shit like giselle ? Because she made money in 2008,

                                                                                                                                                            Latinteencash 1:10k
                                                                                                                                                            Epicpanda 1:138

                                                                                                                                                            I don't post any of there sites but i get a shit ton of google traffic and even then there sites don't convert.
                                                                                                                                                            Segpay Suck Ass Worse Billing Company
                                                                                                                                                            Allurecash Scammers and don't pay

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