Anyone know if the American Bully is SAFER than the typical PITBULL breed?

one simple question and so much shit

the simple answer is: you are 1.850.000.000x more likely to be killed by a white man

Deflecting? That's hilarious considering you're the one brining in white people and school shootings into a debate whether pit bulls dindunuffns. If you can bring in white people and schools shooting I can bring in diversity and mudslimes.

are you white? yes...did you point your white finger? yes...

so you fully understand my rationale for putting things in perspective by comparing the race of pointy finger with the breed of the dog the finger is being pointed at...

let me know when you stop being white, then you can bring in other colors...

Dude you can add on 100 laughy smiley faces after your posts but it wont change the fact that nobody believes islam is the religion of peace, nobody believes pit bulls are the dog of peace and everyone knows diversity brings 85-95% more robbery, rape and murders.

dog of peace is 1.850.000.000x less likely to kill you than a white man

I find it amusing how you are trying to change the subject of the thread to islam and colors now that your claim has been absolutely destroyed

Anyone here own a pitbull-type dog?

I had a pitbull...it is like with every other dog, if you are not going to neglect the dog and if you socialize it with other dogs and other people and treat the dog like family it will be great...if you neglect the dog and treat it like furniture you are better off not getting a dog at all...do not get it as your first dog, nor should you get any large dog as your first...nurture is everything, nature is not a factor...you can make a lab in to a vicious beast and vice versa..

I walked my pitbull 3x/day for a total of 4-5 hours and he was with me or my gf the entire day...it was the best and kindest dog you can imagine and it loved our cat and the cat bossed him around all the time...both me and my gf were previous dog owners and he was the absolute best a dog could ever be because of it...I could now take a grown pitbull and be completely OK with it because I know how to handle large dogs...

a pitbull is like a 1000cc sport bike...the bike will not kill you, it is however up to you how you ride the bike and the 1000cc is not for beginners...there is nothing at all wrong with the 1000cc even though most fatal accidents happen with high power bikes...

oh and the white man is 1.850.000.000x more likely to kill you

His dick is light brown so he's technically not white man he's a mix.

No, a pit bull is not like 1000cc bike. You can raise a pit in a loving home and 10 years later its DNA will take over and it will go pit on you, your kids, your neighbors. I'll bet any money his pit attacked him or someone else and got the needle like most of them do. All you need to ask yourself is why are all the local shelters FULL of them? They are not the most popular dog by a long shot. And remember, not only are those shelters chock full of them, they are also constantly euthanized. I believe the numbers are upwards of 3,000 pits a day. Los Angeles alone puts down 200 a day.

It's really pretty tragic because they are just dogs. Albeit dogs that have been bred to kill other dogs. With the amount of abuse and euthanization, People like crucifissio who claim to love the breed, should be doing everything in their power to stop the breeding of these dogs. But no, according to crucifissio they are just like every other dog (which is a total lie) go on Youtube and watch for yourself. No other dog launches an unprovoked and unrelenting attack like a pit does.

Normal dogs will growl at you and if you invade their space they may bite. Pits do not even warn you. it's not in their DNA to do so. They give zero warning. Normal dogs will bite to get you away from them. Pits grab, hold and shake to tear flesh from bone and inflict as much injury as possible. They are not trying to get you away from them, they are trying to kill you. It's from centuries of breeding the meanest nastiest dogs trained to fight with other mean nasty dogs trained to fight, creating the ultimate fighting dog. They fight to the death. They feel no pain. crucifissio will never tell you that.

dog fighting/bull bainting was nowhere nearly as popular as you are desperate to present in your argument...this is the entire basis of your false narrative and it is amusing how you keep forgetting that one of the most popular breeds in the USA = amstaff + pitbull was never really a fighting dog but a companion dog...

again for your alzheimer brain: dog fighting/bullbaiting/shit kicking was never as popular as you are desperate to believe...


the rest of your story about "fighting DNA" is pure crap...the pitbull was created in like 1835 and has not even been around for 180 years...of those 180 years dog fighting has been illegal for the last 80...so in 100 years, you claim, that people got 2-3 other breeds mixed in to a pitbull and his "DNA" suddenly changed to fighting DNA?

recap for your alzheimer:

1) dog fighting was never as popular as you are desperate to believe
2) 100 years does shit to change a dogs DNA, it was created from already existing dogs
3) you are 1.850.000.000x more likely to be killed by a white man

Again you don't know shit about the breed. Your insecure pansy ass got the dog because of all those US bombs turned you into a female and you thought the dog would make you be more of a man. WRONG.

Oh and you say dog fighting wasn't popular?

According to a study by the Michigan State University College of Law published in 2005, in the United States, dog fighting was once completely legal and was sanctioned and promoted during the colonial period (17th century through 1776) and continuing through the Victorian era in the late 19th century. The early 19th century saw the development in England of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, first imported into the United States ca. 1817. Organized dog fighting became a part of American culture, and was promoted by the United Kennel Club.[2] As the activity grew in popularity, so too did opposition to it. By the early 20th century the United Kennel Club dropped its support and by the 1960s most states had made it illegal. It was not until 1976 that it was outlawed in all states and even then, enforcement was generally lax.[3]

By the late 20th century, as dog fighting became more popular in the poor areas of major U.S. cities, research and investigations revealed strong links with connected with street gangs and social ills, enforcement efforts increased.[3]

You have no idea about the history of the breed.

nothing of what you wrote contradicts anything I wrote...you just put in bold the part that you like out of desperation...

organized cock fighting was part of the american culture as well, so was horse racing, so was arm wrestling but neither arm wrestling, cock fighting, horse racing or dog fighting were hugely popular or the #1 use for cocks,male humans, horses or dogs...

logic dictates that the entire world had dog fighting...but pitbulls existed only in the USA and UK during the time it was legal...would there not be 100-s of other murder dog types as well? no...because your theory is shit...

the #1 use for pitbulls was guard and companion...you are desperate and it amuses me...

the reality is: ONE white man kills in one day as much as 5.000.000 pitbulls kill in a year <----this must be repeated to your alzheimer brain constantly, new information is hard to retain when you have a mental degenerative condition


you do not know shit, debating with you is like debating with an anti vaxxer...he will quote silly shit all day long but not see the overwhelming facts...

but but but I have this quote here: "vaccines are from SATAN!" and the holy book does not like satan!

dumbass LOL

Awww you cant keep the argument about the dogs genetics and their predisposition for violence you got to deflect about some nonsense about white people being violent, which we all know white societies are the safest on the planet.

Keep deflecting.

See, your problem is you do not know the first thing about dog behavior. Do you really think you can just stick 2 mean dogs in a pit and they will maul each other till one is dead? Dogs don't behave like that. You ever see 2 dogs fight? Lots of teeth and posturing then BOOM, growling and yelping and it's over in 10 seconds. It ends quickly because one dog will always submit. That doesn't make much for entertainment and gambling purposes....and that's why pit bulls were created.

You ever see 2 pits go at it? They sit nose to nose, not even flinching. Maybe a slight tail wag. And then it's on. They latch on and shred each other.. they fight to the death. They actually enjoy pain. They thrive on it. After a fight they are covered in blood and waging their tails with excitement. And this is completely by design. Just like if I was to drop a border collie off in the middle of a farm with zero training it would instinctively try to herd sheep. Again, this is by design. Also with border collies, if you put them in a backyard full of children they will often nip at the kids to try to herd them as well. Again, by design. Another reason why many pit bull victims are often children because they see them as prey. They don't differentiate between small kids and other dogs like border collies do.

And just look at their big blocky heads and body. They're built for fighting. If you bred that out of them, they would not look like that anymore. Look it up - there's some Russian guy I believe that spent like 30 years domesticating foxes. Within that time span the foxes began to look different. after 30 years they began to look like...a dog! So, if you bred that violent dog fighting nature out of them they wouldn't have that blocky head anymore or be as muscular.

My problem with them is that they're not necessarily more likely to bite you than other dogs, it's the fact that if they go pit, which they can when they mature at 1-1/2 yrs all the way up to 10 yrs old, they go into that fight mode launching an unrelenting attack till the victim is either getting air-flighted to a trauma unit or dead. If they were just "biting" people nobody would care, and they wouldn't account for 70% of the dog fatalities. They are 70% of the dog fatalities because of what they were designed to do - launch an unrelenting attack till their victim is dead.


And the overwhelming fact that ONE BREED out of FOUR HUNDRED BREEDS is responsible for 70% of deaths (we're not even touching the 30,000 livestock and pets pit bulls kill each year) completely supports my argument.

Also "Wayne Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States, estimates that at least 40,000 people are involved in the industry domestically."

Dog fighting is still wildly popular in the US even though it's officially been banned for 40 years. And why in the world do you think they still use the same fucking breed of dog you dumb ass?

yes I have...I have seen 2 pits, 1 pit and other dogs, other dogs and other dogs etc and

pitbulls are popular everywhere and your theory is shit...I walked all my dogs for 4-5 hours each day in a huge park that I lived next to with 100s of other people walking their dogs...it was next to one of the main streets in our capital city and the aggressive dogs ALWAYS belonged to the rubes, be it pits/dobermans/rotts/mastifs etc...it was always a neglected dog that spent its time as furniture always the same type of white trash...


so did my dalmatian...so does every other alpha dog that is not traumatized by humans...fuck off with your "expertise" you amateur


and one breed is responsible for 95% of the school shootings...the white trash...and were not even touching the ONE HUNDRED MILLION animals he kills for sport

it is the owner...lots of low quality humans combined with pits being one of the most popular breeds...it attracts a certain "type"...ban pits and they will turn to rotts or german shepherds etc...



40K people doing dog fights in the USA is 0.001% of the population...this is the problem with you,,,,you are a door mat in debates...0.001% is not "wildly popular" you are just wildly desperate



the problem with you is you find fault with 2/3 of the worlds population...blacks/browns/muslims etc...5.000.000 pitbulls kill in one year like 1 white man does in a day...maybe you are the one that is a hateful shit?

Pits are a rightard's tool for triggering the leftards. Reality is they are average for aggression towards humans. German Shepards, akitas, etc are way more dangerous towards humans. Pitbulls are on par with Collies for threat to humans. But not too many minorities own them, so not a good righty tool.

Lol @ this idiot said pits feel no pain... What alt-right dump dictated that to you?

It's his attempt to objectify them just like he tries to dehumanize & objectify blacks and other people of color.

He's trying to make us believe that dogs are genetically bred to be violent and he links that to blacks genetically being inferior to whites.

His argument is if dogs can be bred to be genetically violent then humans can be bred to be genetically violent or genetically inferior, like he believes blacks are.

You think pit bulls don't have a high tolerance to pain? You don't know the first thing about the breed.

And on par with collies? LOL I bet you come across a lot of Lassies in the hood. Next thing you're going to tell us you're a dog loving muslim LOL. That's reason #6,900,959 why muslim are shit humans...you hate dogs.



pits killed 13000 dogs, 5000 cats, and more than 20000 farmed animals in 2017. How many did collies kill?

Dehumanize a dog? What is this place full of borderline down syndrome IQ levels?

And yes bladewire, genetics matter with dogs. Thats why we have herding dogs, retrieving dogs and this case, fighting dogs.

^^ If I had to guess which breed was responsible for these injuries it would definitely be the dangerous and unpredictable... collie.

Hey someone tell cruci the new fighting breed is going to be ....collies.

and the white man kills this in one day, what FIVE MILLION PITBULLS kill in a YEAR

the white man kills, for fun, ONE HUNDRED MILLION ANIMALS each year <===this is just the reported kills



tell me onedesperatelo? considering that you are 1.850.000.000x more likely to be killed by a white man, how many billions of times does something have to be less dangerous than the white man for you to feel safe around it? it is a legit question

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seriously, how many BILLIONS of times is something supposed to be better than you for you to accept it?

Look at the deflection!!! Stay on the subject we're talking about DOGS!! Seriously man, you haven't given me one decent rebuttal without crying about white people!

It's really like me saying well grizzly bears only kill 2 people a year so they are safer than pit bulls. I'm really not debating if pits are dangerous or not. Thats what you keep doing because you can't argue with facts.

since there is no measuring unit for danger, I can not say pitbulls are "6 danger", I have to use a comparison to something else, in this case I am using the white man...so I am arguing with facts...fact is you are 1.850.000.000x more likely to be killed by a single white man than by a pitbull...this horribly spoils your cherry pick

I am giving you precise data about how dangerous pitbulls really are...how is it deflecting if I rightly point out that 1 white man in one day out murders 5.000.000 pitbulls for an entire year?...

so how many billions of times does something have to be safer than the white man for you to feel safe around it? <-------legit question considering you are a white man pointing fingers

You went from "feel no pain" to "high tolerance of pain".

Get your shit together bro lol. The dog trolling thing ain't working for you. Stick to Trump stuff. Nobody gives a shit how many other animals pits have killed lol. PETA all by itself has killed more animals, so that's a retarded point.

Well it's a figure of speech when describing the dog. It's kind of like saying pits have "lock jaw" and watching you nutters foam at the mouth, but in reality it's a perfect description considering I've seen them beaten over the head with a wooden baseball bat, tazed, stabbed and shot and they still don't let go. So yeah, saying they have lockjaw and don't feel pain is pretty accurate.

And yeah, people who've lost their pets and horses to pit bulls do care. What an asinine thing to say.

bullshit...my dalmatian wagged his tail and was happy as fuck after every fight he got in to...I have seen a greyhound beaten unconscious with a rock by a cat owner because he would not let go of the cat...he hit him like 50x it was a blood bath...you do not know shit about dogs...the pain goes away after a few hits...it means nothing...

the politicals have no decorum

There are certain breeds of dog which need a good, alpha owner who believes in strong canine behavioral and obedience training. Doberman, Rotweiller, German Shepherd and especially pit bulls. All of the wrong types of people are getting Pit Bulls.


If you have to question whether or not you're the right type of owner, or think that one type of Pit Bull may be safer than another -- then you should get a Labrador Retriever.

treating dogs like family is the key...dogs need attention and exercise and early socialization with other dogs and other humans...tie a human child to a tree and throw him some food every now and then and you will get a fucking psycho...people get pitbulls as "garden furniture" and expect the dog to behave perfectly...the dog will suffer alone for years and one hot day, one forgotten water bowl will make him snap...just like humans some dogs will fall in to depression and others will flip the fuck out...

we humans punish each other by keeping offenders locked up in a confined space but it is considered "normal" for some dogs to live in a small garden or on a small dog bed all their life ALONE...it is 100% the humans fault...my pitbull loved cats and other dogs and everybody around him and was the kindest soul ever...this was 100% my "fault"...

By that logic, you'd ban ENGLISH BULLDOGS too.

They have a longer history of BAITING BULLS than pitbulls

You need to look up your history. The "bulldog" that was used to create the pit bull is extinct. It has nothing to do with the English Bulldog. You may be thinking of the American Bulldog or the Olde English Bulldogge (which I may be wrong), is somewhat related to pit bulls.

Also the English Bulldog is a very popular breed (in the top 10) and I don't believe has a recorded fatality.

1.850.000.000x safer than the white man

"Yeah, but this is a different breed…the power that comes behind the bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed – They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don’t feel the pain anymore. … So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it’s not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender. If you add pain, it only infuriates them. To them, pain is that adrenaline rush. They are looking forward to that... they are addicted to it… That’s why they are such great fighters.”. He goes on to say: “Especially with fighting breeds, you’re going to have these explosions over and over because there’s no limits in their brain.” --Cesar Millan




Do yourself and your neighbors the courtesy and skip that breed There are 400 other smarter breeds that won't kill you, your kids, your neighbors, your neighbors kids and pets.

Hitting might not work and you could hit the person being attacked also.

I broke up a dog fight at a park last year (thankfully my dog wasn't in the mix). I grabbed one by the back legs and another guy grabbed the other dog the same way, like a wheelbarrow. Most dogs, once you grab him by the back legs will become instantly focused on that and stop attacking what's in front of him. I'm not saying it was easy to grab those legs while the dog was in a tussle.

Another trick to make a dog let go of something in his mouth...and this just doesn't apply to dog fights, maybe the dog has one of your shoes. Grab the item with one hand and run your other (closed) hand from the top of his head over his eyes and nose. Most of the time the dog will release it and wonder what happened.

I know it's easy to say "Oh just do x,y and z and it'll all be ok." The people in that situation were probably panicked and acting instinctively to just get the dog off any way possible.

Onehunglo, if you're correct, why aren't ALL pitbulls biting their owners?

I guess they're not ALL biting their owners because they weren't bred to kill humans. They were bred and created for one purpose. And that's dog fighting. They're not made for companionship or to tuck your kids in at night (that nanny dog myth is just nuts).

Just go here and read the daily carnage these dogs do to kids.

If you had a baby and were going to buy a car seat, would you buy the one that was responsible for 70% of car seat deaths? Obviously not. So why would you pick a the dog that was responsible for 70% of human deaths? Keep in mind pit bull type dogs are not the most popular dog by a long shot, and there are hundreds of popular dog breeds out there.


https://www.nbc4i.com/news/state-new...vG9WBXtaa2PqzY

^ You really want a dog like that? Look at the people trying to get that dog off a kid. What if it that dog grabbed that kid by the neck ( which they tend to go for)? You can't get them off. Any dog you get can bite you or a loved one but none will bite and hold and possibly kill them like a pit. See a lot of people never even see what these dogs do when they attack..Just watch as many of these videos of attacks so you can see what you're getting into.

WHAT??? statistics please!