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dyna mo 10-08-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22346565)
China is much more advanced than India, India/ Indonesia become the slave markets of the world as emerging economy's, but they don't have the population or buying power of China in our life times.

the numbers don't lie and neither does reality. India economy is exploding. will it match china's has nothing to do with the fact that you are wrong with your doom and gloom assessment of the USA.

dyna mo 10-08-2018 03:56 PM

anyone that thinks China has already won against the USA is deluding themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/JYsHpI1.png

Conclusion:
China's births have been collapsing for decades, China's childbearing population is collapsing, China's working age population is now falling, and so it follows that China's domestic markets have begun shrinking and this shrinkage will only continue to accelerate indefinitely. Add to this, the export markets for 90%+ of their exports are hardly growing, and in about a decade, all but Africa and India's under 65-year-old populations will likewise be shrinking.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/415...class-set-bust

BaldBastard 10-08-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346569)
anyone that thinks China has already won against the USA is deluding themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/JYsHpI1.png

Conclusion:
China's births have been collapsing for decades, China's childbearing population is collapsing, China's working age population is now falling, and so it follows that China's domestic markets have begun shrinking and this shrinkage will only continue to accelerate indefinitely. Add to this, the export markets for 90%+ of their exports are hardly growing, and in about a decade, all but Africa and India's under 65-year-old populations will likewise be shrinking.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/415...class-set-bust

Same author, same site.. this time America

https://seekingalpha.com/article/413...tion-declining

Chinas still the biggest, India and Indonesia right behind them, but it doesn't matter who's side you want to fall on, those three will be the biggest economy's in the world.. it can't be stopped, slowed maybe but not stopped.

America isolating themselves, speeds the process up all you get is a very short term gain.

dyna mo 10-08-2018 04:31 PM

1. Uncertainty haunts China’s middle class
Beijing may have to think again about domestic consumption being the main economic driver as rising debt levels take their toll on willingness to spend
https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight...s-middle-class

2. China's Middle Class don’t receive benefits for healthcare, education, or retirement from the state. And it doesn’t vote. Therefore, it’s increasingly taxed indirectly via an expensive healthcare system, education, and the fact that there are almost no retirement benefits.

http://www.atimes.com/article/chinas...owing-dilemma/

1 + 2 =

3. India overtakes China as the most promising market for retail expansion

China fell out of the No. 1 spot in a ranking of the most promising markets for retail expansion.

India took the top spot, helped by its expanding economy, booming consumption rates, urbanizing population and growing middle class.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/05/indi...expansion.html

dyna mo 10-08-2018 04:44 PM

the fact is that china's business model can and is being knocked off and it's very easy to do- cheap labor. china doesn't have a monopoly on cheap labor and many other countries are encroaching on it. The race for cheaper manufacturing is on and millions of jobs have already been relocated AWAY from China and established in cheaper labor areas like Africa and beyond. Robotization will also seriously harm China's business model.

it's glib to assume USA has already lost to China and only an anti-American would try and make such an exclamation.

OneHungLo 10-08-2018 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22346566)
no it is a major sign of weakness if you have a weapon dollar that is enforced with war and when you have to blackmail the rest of the world to do business with you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just keep pushing LOL...I hope trump wins 2020 I really do...

Haha you may be saying that on here but you know damn well your American hating self knows Trump is going in hard on that ass. No lube for you. You without-a-fucking-doubt want Trump out of office. You'd love nothing more to have a crony like Hillary in there pushing special interests groups and fucking this country up.

Trump is a tactical genius dismantling all these shitty trade deals these crony bought-and-paid for politicians let the American people get ass raped by for decades.

OneHungLo 10-08-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346594)
the fact is that china's business model can and is being knocked off and it's very easy to do- cheap labor. china doesn't have a monopoly on cheap labor and many other countries are encroaching on it. The race for cheaper manufacturing is on and millions of jobs have already been relocated AWAY from China and established in cheaper labor areas like Africa and beyond. Robotization will also seriously harm China's business model.

it's glib to assume USA has already lost to China and only an anti-American would try and make such an exclamation.

That's what Mrbb fails to grasp is that China is our lowly labor. Nothing more. Manufacturing. They don't actually create anything except when they steal our technology. Where will China be when the manufacturing goes away?

dyna mo 10-08-2018 06:10 PM

"Bad debts in China are increasing significantly faster than what the Chinese central bank reports, according to a prominent Chinese banking analyst.

A report in the Financial Times said that analyst Charlene Chu believes that China's accumulation of bad debts is $US6.8 trillion higher than the official government figures.

That's more than five times higher than the value of loans which are officially reported as either non-performing or one level above non-performing.

If total non-performing loans really are $US7.6 trillion, it would imply a bad debt ratio of 34%. Chinese government statistics at the end of June reported a bad debt ratio of 5.3%."

pimpmaster9000 10-08-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22346609)
Haha you may be saying that on here but you know damn well your American hating self knows Trump is going in hard on that ass. No lube for you. You without-a-fucking-doubt want Trump out of office. You'd love nothing more to have a crony like Hillary in there pushing special interests groups and fucking this country up.

Trump is a tactical genius dismantling all these shitty trade deals these crony bought-and-paid for politicians let the American people get ass raped by for decades.

it is amusing to watch americans live in their dream bubble...

let me give you some food for thought: I have been through a complete collapse of the economy...it is not so bad...if america went down today, shit would be a BIT uncomfortable for a few months and life would go on....this is how much leverage you really have in the world...it is all in your head...

trust me...I want trump to win 2020 because I believe he is the perfect idiot and he is pissing the world off more and more...your war dollar will mean shit in the future and your purchasing power will go to shit with it...when you lose your ability to export your inflation, you will get fucked financially and others will take over...



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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22346609)
They don't actually create anything except when they steal our technology. Where will China be when the manufacturing goes away?

china already makes better CPUs than the USA that are china design and superior in every way...10$ research dollars in china is like 100$ in the USA at least...americans are nothing special...americans cant even make a TV commercially...your cars are inferior to jap and german...india lauched a mission to mars 20x cheaper than the USA...

you are dynamo dumb if you think that those drug party colleges like berkeleleleleley teach some special secret shit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the USA can make a 1% faster processor,that nobody else is willing to throw money at, but china will just put 2 cheaper ones on a board and get more processing power at 10% of the cost...

america has an "i-advantage" it is hugely over priced and everything else is better and cheaper :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fat people do not win races :2 cents:

dyna mo 10-08-2018 06:58 PM

no matter how much serbie kicks and screams, he'll never be relevant.

pimpmaster9000 10-08-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346643)
no matter how much serbie kicks and screams, he'll never be relevant.

I am not american I do not have childish needs...you mafia empire is on the decline...trump 2020!

OneHungLo 10-08-2018 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22346658)
I am not american I do not have childish needs...you mafia empire is on the decline...trump 2020!

Not only is it not in decline the stock market is almost at all time highs with record 50 yr low unemployment and Trump has his size 12 boot firmly implanted in your commie asses :1orglaugh

Prepare your anus my friend for 6 more years of Trump.

pimpmaster9000 10-08-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22346663)
Not only is it not in decline the stock market is almost at all time highs with record 50 yr low unemployment and Trump has his size 12 boot firmly implanted in your commie asses :1orglaugh

Prepare your anus my friend for 6 more years of Trump.

Do you have any nice banners I could use for my sig? Nothing decent out there and we should spread the message early...

All that maga, stock market doing just like under obama but a bit worse, unemployment figures that are suddenly precise but were not under obama etc...

I may even make my own trump 2020 banner...I need it to fit the sig nut not break board size rules etc...

Thanks!

OneHungLo 10-08-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22346667)
Do you have any nice banners I could use for my sig? Nothing decent out there and we should spread the message early...

All that maga, stock market doing just like under obama but a bit worse, unemployment figures that are suddenly precise but were not under obama etc...

I may even make my own trump 2020 banner...I need it to fit the sig nut not break board size rules etc...

Thanks!

I can definitely help you out with that. Maybe we can combine Pooty and Trump together on one banner with a "keep America Great 2020" slogan. I'm open to ideas. Let's do this.


Glad to have you on the team :thumbsup:thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 10-09-2018 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22346685)
I can definitely help you out with that. Maybe we can combine Pooty and Trump together on one banner with a "keep America Great 2020" slogan. I'm open to ideas. Let's do this.


Glad to have you on the team :thumbsup:thumbsup

no you do not want pooty on the banner it will confuse the dumb dumbs...only trump...I like the "keep america great 2020" thing...america is such a strong keyword for the local brainwash...outsiders like me would never think of such an angle because it sounds really really dumb...but americans swallow it hook, line and sinker...

if you find such a banner I would be happy to use it...I can not find a trump 2020 banner that is adequate...

BaldBastard 10-09-2018 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346560)
I"m happy to be the one to tell you USA just won the trade war with ca. this thread is about that. you think clause 32.10 is a win for ca? ca is very lucky trudoil came around.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnbri.../#66eed1f54054


In summary, USMCA can be seen, on balance, as an improvement over NAFTA, but not much of one.

It will have no measurable effect on economic growth, job growth or wage growth in the United States.

dyna mo 10-09-2018 06:46 AM

Exactly. I never claimed there were massive changes, but ca certainly lost.

Cute colors too.


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