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  • Constant Phil
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2012
    • 270
    #151
    Originally posted by crucifissio
    there is no reason to consume fructose...the body does not need it for anything and it can make it...people having trouble with fat loss will get fucked if they eat fructose...everything about fructose is bad...there is not 1 single benefit other than the taste...
    Yup and eating meat and protein rich food raises insulin levels as well. Excess protein gets converted to glucose and consuming too much will also mess with your insulin sensitivity.

    Sugars are not as bad as you claim - I believe it boils down to poor word choice. In this day and age going outside is "bad for you" Consuming fructose is counterproductive for those attempting to lose weight. Thats about it. Every body type is different and each person will metabolize said sugars differently.

    Nice little comparison of foods using the insulin index.


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      • pimpmaster9000
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2011
        • 26732
        #152
        Originally posted by Constant Phil
        Yup and eating meat and protein rich food raises insulin levels as well.
        protein is a must...you eat it or you die eventually...the insulin with protein is "fixed insulin" if you will...there is no way around this...of course you can eat meats that spike insulin less...but still protein is a must...it is what it is...

        whether you eat carbs on the other hand is your choice...high gi vs low gi intake ratios are critical to regulating "variable insulin", the insulin you CAN control...avoiding fructose is a no brainer here...



        Originally posted by Constant Phil
        Excess protein gets converted to glucose and consuming too much will also mess with your insulin sensitivity.
        gluconeogenesis is not a problem with "fattier meat"...also if you avoid bad carbs you feel less hunger...leptin is not blocked...it is hard to over eat....
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          • Constant Phil
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2012
            • 270
            #153
            Originally posted by crucifissio
            protein is a must...you eat it or you die eventually...the insulin with protein is "fixed insulin" if you will...there is no way around this...of course you can eat meats that spike insulin less...but still protein is a must...it is what it is...

            whether you eat carbs on the other hand is your choice...high gi vs low gi intake ratios are critical to regulating "variable insulin", the insulin you CAN control...avoiding fructose is a no brainer here...

            gluconeogenesis is not a problem with "fattier meat"...also if you avoid bad carbs you feel less hunger...leptin is not blocked...it is hard to over eat....
            Yes but regardless fructose stored within the cell walls of fruit takes about 4x as long to absorb and digest than say sugar from a can of soda. If youre looking at labels this isnt evident...

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              • bronco67
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2006
                • 29032
                #154
                Originally posted by Constant Phil
                Of course you wouldnt want someone losing weight to have an extraordinarily large amount of fruit...but lets be honest how many over weight people are getting fat from over eating fruit? Last i checked its high fructose corn syrup...the processed version of fructose thats causing these issues.

                And lol @ you for thinking competitors dont eat carbs during their prep...
                he knows everything.

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184
                    #155
                    Originally posted by bronco67
                    he knows everything.
                    what's worse is he spends day in and day out here month after month year after year saying truly mean-spirited things about Americans.

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                      • pimpmaster9000
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 26732
                        #156
                        Originally posted by Constant Phil
                        Yes but regardless fructose stored within the cell walls of fruit takes about 4x as long to absorb and digest than say sugar from a can of soda. If youre looking at labels this isnt evident...
                        There is fiber in bread as well but it still makes you fat...regardless of the fiber you are still introducing unnecessary fructose in to your diet...

                        The slowing down of absorption 4x is just not true...an apple has 2 grams of fiber but 16g of just fructose...it MAY slow down absorption a bit but 4x is just not true...pizza has the same fiber per 100g...so does pasta...it all makes you fat...



                        Funny how nobody can explain the benefits of fruit...especially dynamo LOL...fake expert IRL
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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184
                            #157
                            the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple.

                            And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.

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                              • pimpmaster9000
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 26732
                                #158
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple.

                                And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.
                                an apple has 2g of fiber per 100g...there is no way that just 2 grams can slow down the intake of the other 98 grams 4x....it can slow it down a bit, but not significantly...fiber is not an active substance, it just increases the viscosity of intestinal contents a bit...

                                I think the 4x figure is fake science, or at least it sounds like fake science sponsored by a group with interests....
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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184
                                    #159
                                    The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is
                                    1:25

                                    The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is

                                    3:200

                                    An apple is loaded with fiber

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                                      • pimpmaster9000
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Dec 2011
                                        • 26732
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                        The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is
                                        1:25

                                        The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is

                                        3:200

                                        An apple is loaded with fiber
                                        I repeat, an apple, has 2g of fiber per 100g...you can try and make this number look bigger how ever you wish, 2% is 2%...

                                        2% of an inactive substance can not slow down the processing of the remaining 98% by 4x...it does not work that way....it does not magically cover the 98%...

                                        pizza has the same dietary fiber % as an apple...so does bread...
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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184
                                            #161
                                            you're the one exclaiming that 4g of fiber in an apple is a science conspiracy. sponsored by a secret gang of fructose dudes trying to make an apple out to be special or something.

                                            that's some fruitloop shit right there. apple fiber conspiracy. fucking lol. whatever it takes to be right, eh slippery serbie.

                                            and please, knock it the fuck off comparing a fucking pizza to an apple. and bread. all while you wax right past the fucking fact bread spike insulin exponentially greater. as well as pizza. just like I was trying to tell you in the other fucking thread.

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                                              • pimpmaster9000
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2011
                                                • 26732
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                you're the one exclaiming that 4g of fiber in an apple is a science conspiracy. sponsored by a secret gang of fructose dudes trying to make an apple out to be special or something.

                                                that's some fruitloop shit right there. apple fiber conspiracy. fucking lol. whatever it takes to be right, eh slippery serbie.

                                                and please, knock it the fuck off comparing a fucking pizza to an apple. and bread. all while you wax right past the fucking fact bread spike insulin exponentially greater. as well as pizza. just like I was trying to tell you in the other fucking thread.


                                                its not 4g its 2%...you have severe reading and concentration problems...an apple has 2% fiber...this 2% fiber does not increase the absorption time of the remaining 98% of the apple by 400%...shit even you know this sounds stupid...

                                                I call shenanigans on the 400% figure...I think it is fake science just like "Fat is bad for you"...
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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184
                                                    #163
                                                    , the ave apple is 100g, 95 cals.

                                                    4 grams is 4%


                                                    and you claim you're educated.


                                                    yet you require a conspiracy that inflates the nutritional value of an apple

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184
                                                        #164
                                                        fruit is bad for you

                                                        there's a conspiracy to over-estimate the value of an apple

                                                        pizza = apple


                                                        jtfc.

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                                                          • pimpmaster9000
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Dec 2011
                                                            • 26732
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                            , the ave apple is 100g, 95 cals.

                                                            4 grams is 4%


                                                            and you claim you're educated.


                                                            yet you require a conspiracy that inflates the nutritional value of an apple
                                                            An apple has 2,4g fiber per 100g...You have a severe reading and concentration problem...you are coming out with the 4g figure and then accusinv me of bad math LOL...step away from the bong LOL


                                                            Look its amusing how fiber is your last line of defense and you try to squirm around the fact that pizza has the same amount of fiber per 100g as apples, so this same fiber should take the spike off of pizza as well and not just fruit right?

                                                            Oh right...apples have magic fiber aAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                                                            Why isnt fiber the cure for obesity then? Oh right: its because the whole fiber story is BULLSHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                                                            IRL: you can not even begin to explain how 2% fiber makes the other 98% of the apple 400% slower to digest...why? Because its BULLSHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHA!


                                                            Bovine excrement bruh...you got played..
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