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  • bronco67
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    • Dec 2006
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    #16
    Originally posted by crucifissio
    Fruit is just as bad...
    No it's not. The sugar in fruit is good for you. Like all things, it contributes to calorie counts but it's good to have fruit even when trying to lose weight.

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    • pimpmaster9000
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      • Dec 2011
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      #17
      Originally posted by bronco67
      No it's not. The sugar in fruit is good for you. Like all things, it contributes to calorie counts but it's good to have fruit even when trying to lose weight.
      why would I eat fruit when I can get more nutrients from vegetables with much less insulin spike? how is eating a less nutrient dense, fructose filled fruit, beneficial?

      insulin is the ONLY hormone in the body responsible for gaining fat...why spike it at all?...
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      • Constant Phil
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        • Mar 2012
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        #18
        Originally posted by crucifissio
        If one has a need to count calories then they should not be eating fruit because it is full of fructose...its as simple as that...why trade 1 minute of "pleasure" while you eat sugar, in exchange for your overall health?

        The most disciplined person I know got to 2% body fat with a trick method tho...she loves chocolate but can not eat it while prepping for a competition...she stuffs her mouth full of chocolate and then chews it and spits it out after like 20 seconds...then rinses her mouth with water like 5x so as not to consume a single calorie from it...it works wonders for her...
        I guess you dont have many bodybuilding friends. Many of us, myself included eat plenty of fruit/carbs and sit at single digit bf %'s year round.

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        • bronco67
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2006
          • 29032

          #19
          Originally posted by Constant Phil
          I guess you dont have many bodybuilding friends. Many of us, myself included eat plenty of fruit/carbs and sit at single digit bf %'s year round.
          Same here. I maintain around 10 to 12% body fat and eat grapes, grapefruit, oranges, cantaloupe, etc. But I make sure I stay within a calorie target range.

          These people demonizing sugar have been brainwashed.

          I even have cupcakes and ice cream. Not that I think it's good for me physically, but it's good for the mental part of staying in shape. You need to fuck up once in a while to keep the diet going long term.

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          • pimpmaster9000
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            • Dec 2011
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            #20
            Originally posted by Constant Phil
            I guess you dont have many bodybuilding friends. Many of us, myself included eat plenty of fruit/carbs and sit at single digit bf %'s year round.
            so you all look like this all year? kudos to you then...

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            • ~Ray
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              • Jun 2003
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              #21
              One teaspoon of sugar is 15 calories and 4 grams of carbohydrates in which all 4 grams are derived from sugars. 1% of our daily value of carbs.
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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #22
                Originally posted by crucifissio
                Fruit is just as bad...
                holy shit you're a massive fucking idiot to make such a ridiculous claim.

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                • Constant Phil
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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 270

                  #23
                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                  so you all look like this all year? kudos to you then...

                  Yes as a matter of fact I do...Its not that hard its called eating consistently.



                  This is 4 days into a cruise while I was eating and drinking...not that hard...oh noes sugars!!!

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                  • pimpmaster9000
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 26732

                    #24
                    sugars are bad and I can explain in detail...

                    there are people who tolerate sugars very very well...they never get fat no matter what they eat + they work out...calories in vs. calories out always applies...

                    also people like bodybuilders, powerlifers etc may have special performance needs, carbs may be essential for their peak performance, however the health part is disputable...



                    so why are fruit and sugars bad?

                    well most of the population has some extra fat and would like to get rid of it...generally speaking, there is only 1 thing that makes you fat: insulin...there is only 1 thing that significantly spikes insulin: carbs (some more, some less...protein and fat does not give you such a spike)

                    homo sapiens was not made to spike insulin 3x/day with carbs...we have been eating like this for the last 200 years max...carbs are a CHEAP and COMMERCIAL source of energy...wheat, corn, rice, sugars, fruit...so it is only natural that the population turned to them and only natural that governments promote production...they are however bad for us because they fuck with the insulin and fat and sick homo sapiens are the proof that is in the pudding...insulin blocks leptin...leptin is the satiety hormone...it turns off hunger...blocked leptin = more hunger = more food = more insulin = blocked leptin and so on...this is why MOST people get fat...

                    MOST people do not lose weight and fail at diets and restricting calories because of the above...you can NOT eat sugars/fruit/carbs and not have cravings...you can not stay on low cal or controlled calorie diets as easy because of the above...insulin spike = more hunger...if you have cravings you are doing something wrong...

                    so what is the solution? = do not fuck yourself with bad carbs...do not eat fruit...avoid all fructose, avoid all bad carbs...


                    now somebody can either show me what nutrients are in fruit that are not in veggies or they do not know what they are saying...somebody can explain in detail why sugars and bad carbs are a good idea when you can easily lose weight with keto...no huger = no problem....YES you will lose weight with calorie restricted diets, no doubt...but why take the inferior and harder approach? makes no sense at all...
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                    • Constant Phil
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                      • Mar 2012
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                      sugars are bad and I can explain in detail...

                      there are people who tolerate sugars very very well...they never get fat no matter what they eat + they work out...calories in vs. calories out always applies...

                      also people like bodybuilders, powerlifers etc may have special performance needs, carbs may be essential for their peak performance, however the health part is disputable...



                      so why are fruit and sugars bad?

                      well most of the population has some extra fat and would like to get rid of it...generally speaking, there is only 1 thing that makes you fat: insulin...there is only 1 thing that significantly spikes insulin: carbs (some more, some less...protein and fat does not give you such a spike)

                      homo sapiens was not made to spike insulin 3x/day with carbs...we have been eating like this for the last 200 years max...carbs are a CHEAP and COMMERCIAL source of energy...wheat, corn, rice, sugars, fruit...so it is only natural that the population turned to them and only natural that governments promote production...they are however bad for us because they fuck with the insulin and fat and sick homo sapiens are the proof that is in the pudding...insulin blocks leptin...leptin is the satiety hormone...it turns off hunger...blocked leptin = more hunger = more food = more insulin = blocked leptin and so on...this is why MOST people get fat...

                      MOST people do not lose weight and fail at diets and restricting calories because of the above...you can NOT eat sugars/fruit/carbs and not have cravings...you can not stay on low cal or controlled calorie diets as easy because of the above...insulin spike = more hunger...if you have cravings you are doing something wrong...

                      so what is the solution? = do not fuck yourself with bad carbs...do not eat fruit...avoid all fructose, avoid all bad carbs...


                      now somebody can either show me what nutrients are in fruit that are not in veggies or they do not know what they are saying...somebody can explain in detail why sugars and bad carbs are a good idea when you can easily lose weight with keto...no huger = no problem....YES you will lose weight with calorie restricted diets, no doubt...but why take the inferior and harder approach? makes no sense at all...
                      You make this too easy....Berries. Have exponentially more antioxidants than vegetables.

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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184

                        #26
                        Dumbfuck serbie, plenty of vegetables have fructose, and more fructose than plenty of fruit. Ever heard of a carrot. Moreover, you fail to realize fiber in fruit and vegetables slows absorbtion.

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                        • Constant Phil
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                          • Mar 2012
                          • 270

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                          Dumbfuck serbie, plenty of vegetables have fructose, and more fructose than plenty of fruit. Ever heard of a carrot. Moreover, you fail to realize fiber in fruit and vegetables slows absorbtion.
                          Asparagus, artichokes, peas, etc, etc. Heaven forbid anyone do a google search before blasting out their own consensus of end all be all nutrition.

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                          • pimpmaster9000
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 26732

                            #28
                            Originally posted by crucifissio

                            so what is the solution? = do not fuck yourself with bad carbs...do not eat fruit...avoid all fructose, avoid all bad carbs...
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            Dumbfuck serbie, plenty of vegetables have fructose, and more fructose than plenty of fruit. Ever heard of a carrot. Moreover, you fail to realize fiber in fruit and vegetables slows absorbtion.
                            ok reading problem boy...focus your unused brain on the BAD CARBS part...this includes veggies with bad carbs but specifically covers ALL FRUIT...furthermore, you fail to realize that speed of absorption is not important when insulin is low...

                            you fail at concentration and basic reading because of the carbs

                            Originally posted by Constant Phil
                            You make this too easy....Berries. Have exponentially more antioxidants than vegetables.
                            Today 07:39 PM
                            not the only source of anti oxidants...berries have 10mmlol per 100g but dark 100% or 95% coco chololate has 15...pecans have the same as berries...but no carbs...

                            you will find lots of veggies with high sugars...do not eat them...what I said is not my opinion it is just fact...sugars are bad for most people...there is no reason to consume most of them...
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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Constant Phil
                              Asparagus, artichokes, peas, etc, etc. Heaven forbid anyone do a google search before blasting out their own consensus of end all be all nutrition.
                              the nonsense that serbie clown posts. jtfc.

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                              • Constant Phil
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 270

                                #30
                                Originally posted by crucifissio
                                ok reading problem boy...focus your unused brain on the BAD CARBS part...this includes veggies with bad carbs but specifically covers ALL FRUIT...furthermore, you fail to realize that speed of absorption is not important when insulin is low...

                                you fail at concentration and basic reading because of the carbs



                                not the only source of anti oxidants...berries have 10mmlol per 100g but dark 100% or 95% coco chololate has 15...pecans have the same as berries...but no carbs...

                                you will find lots of veggies with high sugars...do not eat them...what I said is not my opinion it is just fact...sugars are bad for most people...there is no reason to consume most of them...
                                Can we get a photo of your physique for reference? Its one thing to talk to the talk but lets see how lean you are with those lack of sugars. Also what denotes a "bad carb" seems like any and all carbs are bad in your opinion besides fiber.

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