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Constant Phil · 09-26-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

there is no reason to consume fructose...the body does not need it for anything and it can make it...people having trouble with fat loss will get fucked if they eat fructose...everything about fructose is bad...there is not 1 single benefit other than the taste...

Yup and eating meat and protein rich food raises insulin levels as well. Excess protein gets converted to glucose and consuming too much will also mess with your insulin sensitivity.

Sugars are not as bad as you claim - I believe it boils down to poor word choice. In this day and age going outside is "bad for you" Consuming fructose is counterproductive for those attempting to lose weight. Thats about it. Every body type is different and each person will metabolize said sugars differently.

Nice little comparison of foods using the insulin index.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Constant Phil

Yup and eating meat and protein rich food raises insulin levels as well.

protein is a must...you eat it or you die eventually...the insulin with protein is "fixed insulin" if you will...there is no way around this...of course you can eat meats that spike insulin less...but still protein is a must...it is what it is...

whether you eat carbs on the other hand is your choice...high gi vs low gi intake ratios are critical to regulating "variable insulin", the insulin you CAN control...avoiding fructose is a no brainer here...

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Originally Posted by Constant Phil

Excess protein gets converted to glucose and consuming too much will also mess with your insulin sensitivity.

gluconeogenesis is not a problem with "fattier meat"...also if you avoid bad carbs you feel less hunger...leptin is not blocked...it is hard to over eat....

Constant Phil · 09-26-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

protein is a must...you eat it or you die eventually...the insulin with protein is "fixed insulin" if you will...there is no way around this...of course you can eat meats that spike insulin less...but still protein is a must...it is what it is...

whether you eat carbs on the other hand is your choice...high gi vs low gi intake ratios are critical to regulating "variable insulin", the insulin you CAN control...avoiding fructose is a no brainer here...

gluconeogenesis is not a problem with "fattier meat"...also if you avoid bad carbs you feel less hunger...leptin is not blocked...it is hard to over eat....

Yes but regardless fructose stored within the cell walls of fruit takes about 4x as long to absorb and digest than say sugar from a can of soda. If youre looking at labels this isnt evident...

bronco67 · 09-26-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Constant Phil

Of course you wouldnt want someone losing weight to have an extraordinarily large amount of fruit...but lets be honest how many over weight people are getting fat from over eating fruit? Last i checked its high fructose corn syrup...the processed version of fructose thats causing these issues.

And lol @ you for thinking competitors dont eat carbs during their prep...

he knows everything.

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

he knows everything.

what's worse is he spends day in and day out here month after month year after year saying truly mean-spirited things about Americans.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Constant Phil

Yes but regardless fructose stored within the cell walls of fruit takes about 4x as long to absorb and digest than say sugar from a can of soda. If youre looking at labels this isnt evident...

There is fiber in bread as well but it still makes you fat...regardless of the fiber you are still introducing unnecessary fructose in to your diet...

The slowing down of absorption 4x is just not true...an apple has 2 grams of fiber but 16g of just fructose...it MAY slow down absorption a bit but 4x is just not true...pizza has the same fiber per 100g...so does pasta...it all makes you fat...

Funny how nobody can explain the benefits of fruit...especially dynamo LOL...fake expert IRL

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 03:57 PM

the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple.

And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple.

And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.

an apple has 2g of fiber per 100g...there is no way that just 2 grams can slow down the intake of the other 98 grams 4x....it can slow it down a bit, but not significantly...fiber is not an active substance, it just increases the viscosity of intestinal contents a bit...

I think the 4x figure is fake science, or at least it sounds like fake science sponsored by a group with interests....

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 05:15 PM

The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is
1:25

The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is

3:200

An apple is loaded with fiber

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is
1:25

The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is

3:200

An apple is loaded with fiber

I repeat, an apple, has 2g of fiber per 100g...you can try and make this number look bigger how ever you wish, 2% is 2%...

2% of an inactive substance can not slow down the processing of the remaining 98% by 4x...it does not work that way....it does not magically cover the 98%...

pizza has the same dietary fiber % as an apple...so does bread...

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 05:38 PM

you're the one exclaiming that 4g of fiber in an apple is a science conspiracy. sponsored by a secret gang of fructose dudes trying to make an apple out to be special or something.

that's some fruitloop shit right there. apple fiber conspiracy. fucking lol. whatever it takes to be right, eh slippery serbie.

and please, knock it the fuck off comparing a fucking pizza to an apple. and bread. all while you wax right past the fucking fact bread spike insulin exponentially greater. as well as pizza. just like I was trying to tell you in the other fucking thread.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're the one exclaiming that 4g of fiber in an apple is a science conspiracy. sponsored by a secret gang of fructose dudes trying to make an apple out to be special or something.

that's some fruitloop shit right there. apple fiber conspiracy. fucking lol. whatever it takes to be right, eh slippery serbie.

and please, knock it the fuck off comparing a fucking pizza to an apple. and bread. all while you wax right past the fucking fact bread spike insulin exponentially greater. as well as pizza. just like I was trying to tell you in the other fucking thread.

its not 4g its 2%...you have severe reading and concentration problems...an apple has 2% fiber...this 2% fiber does not increase the absorption time of the remaining 98% of the apple by 400%...shit even you know this sounds stupid...

I call shenanigans on the 400% figure...I think it is fake science just like "Fat is bad for you"...

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 05:58 PM

, the ave apple is 100g, 95 cals.

4 grams is 4%

and you claim you're educated.

yet you require a conspiracy that inflates the nutritional value of an apple

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 06:00 PM

fruit is bad for you

there's a conspiracy to over-estimate the value of an apple

pizza = apple

jtfc.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

, the ave apple is 100g, 95 cals.

4 grams is 4%

and you claim you're educated.

yet you require a conspiracy that inflates the nutritional value of an apple

An apple has 2,4g fiber per 100g...You have a severe reading and concentration problem...you are coming out with the 4g figure and then accusinv me of bad math LOL...step away from the bong LOL

Look its amusing how fiber is your last line of defense and you try to squirm around the fact that pizza has the same amount of fiber per 100g as apples, so this same fiber should take the spike off of pizza as well and not just fruit right?

Oh right...apples have magic fiber aAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why isnt fiber the cure for obesity then? Oh right: its because the whole fiber story is BULLSHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

IRL: you can not even begin to explain how 2% fiber makes the other 98% of the apple 400% slower to digest...why? Because its BULLSHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Bovine excrement bruh...you got played..

dyna mo · 09-26-2018, 09:34 PM

so fruit is bad, fiber is bullshit, and pizza is good for you.

JesseQuinn · 09-26-2018, 11:58 PM

just ate a strong strip of mango

we have a mango tree on the property but I am a guest here in this country, not gonna go around taking things that aren't mine

property manager dude saw my light on and knocked on my door to give it to me. so not creepy either, he lives here with his wife with whom I par far more than he

but yes, toxic fruit for dinner ftw

RazorSharpe · 09-27-2018, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

whatever you are doing is working..... what where we talking about?

Glen, for someone who is usually meticulous with what he writes, I couldn't help but notice this little error - "what where we talking about"

I can see why you made this mistake though - haha

Wait! What where we talking about?

pimpmaster9000 · 09-27-2018, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so fruit is bad, fiber is bullshit, and pizza is good for you.

Dude go see a doctor there is something wrong with you, you are loosing your ability to read...

JesseQuinn · 09-27-2018, 05:14 AM

this whole thread is people arguing over being different. everyone I like in my life is so different than me, being surrounded by peeps similar to myself would be irritating (and boring) as fuck.

that is all

going to go stare at the mountains for a smoke and then get to work

but yeah, difference is scary and wrong

eat pizza or berries or whatever floats your boat. why fight about it?

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 06:09 AM

As I've stated, I couldn't care less what serbie eats.

Eat shit serbie.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-27-2018, 06:23 AM

this thread was never about what I eat...go see a doctor you have some sort of brain damage

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 06:30 AM

Eat shit serbie, it's low in fructose.

Constant Phil · 09-27-2018, 07:31 AM

A medium sized apple has 4 grams of carb and is around 180-200Grams. Youre arguing over nothing. 4 grams is 18% your daily value.

I can eat an apple and stay in ketosis...you mad brah

Google Expert · 09-27-2018, 10:22 AM

There is sugar in virtually everything.

Open your fridge, grab the first thing you see - there's a 90% chance it contains sugar.

Constant Phil · 09-27-2018, 11:24 AM

Vegetables and fruit are bad because the entire environment in which they are grown is contaminated and genetically modified

/thread.

Only good thing that remains good for you is deionized water and canned air from the top of Mt. Everest.

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 12:09 PM

Wait for it.... a 3d printed no fiber apple with the nutritional density of a pizza.

Trillion dollars idea.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-27-2018, 06:22 PM

dynamo probably hit the front and the back of his head

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 06:36 PM

It's weird that serbie spends his days and nights attacking Americans on gfy then gets so butthurt when a random American doesn't agree with him that fruit is bad.

Especially as BTC Lambo rich as serbie claims to be.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-27-2018, 06:50 PM

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 06:55 PM

It is peculiar. You attack Americans yet demand our approval.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-27-2018, 06:56 PM

dynamo on the left:

dyna mo · 09-27-2018, 07:02 PM

serbie on the right

09-26-2018, 11:58 PM	#167
JesseQuinn feeding the wolves Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: between sand and stars in Jamaica Posts: 5,372	just ate a strong strip of mango we have a mango tree on the property but I am a guest here in this country, not gonna go around taking things that aren't mine property manager dude saw my light on and knocked on my door to give it to me. so not creepy either, he lives here with his wife with whom I par far more than he but yes, toxic fruit for dinner ftw __________________ throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

09-27-2018, 05:14 AM	#170
JesseQuinn feeding the wolves Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: between sand and stars in Jamaica Posts: 5,372	this whole thread is people arguing over being different. everyone I like in my life is so different than me, being surrounded by peeps similar to myself would be irritating (and boring) as fuck. that is all going to go stare at the mountains for a smoke and then get to work but yeah, difference is scary and wrong eat pizza or berries or whatever floats your boat. why fight about it? __________________ throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

09-27-2018, 06:23 AM	#172
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	this thread was never about what I eat...go see a doctor you have some sort of brain damage __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

09-27-2018, 07:31 AM	#174
Constant Phil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 270	A medium sized apple has 4 grams of carb and is around 180-200Grams. Youre arguing over nothing. 4 grams is 18% your daily value. I can eat an apple and stay in ketosis...you mad brah __________________ [email protected]

09-27-2018, 11:24 AM	#176
Constant Phil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 270	Vegetables and fruit are bad because the entire environment in which they are grown is contaminated and genetically modified /thread. Only good thing that remains good for you is deionized water and canned air from the top of Mt. Everest. __________________ [email protected]

09-26-2018, 03:57 PM	#157
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple. And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.

09-26-2018, 05:15 PM	#159
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is 1:25 The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is 3:200 An apple is loaded with fiber

09-26-2018, 05:38 PM	#161
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	you're the one exclaiming that 4g of fiber in an apple is a science conspiracy. sponsored by a secret gang of fructose dudes trying to make an apple out to be special or something. that's some fruitloop shit right there. apple fiber conspiracy. fucking lol. whatever it takes to be right, eh slippery serbie. and please, knock it the fuck off comparing a fucking pizza to an apple. and bread. all while you wax right past the fucking fact bread spike insulin exponentially greater. as well as pizza. just like I was trying to tell you in the other fucking thread.

09-26-2018, 05:58 PM	#163
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	, the ave apple is 100g, 95 cals. 4 grams is 4% and you claim you're educated. yet you require a conspiracy that inflates the nutritional value of an apple

09-26-2018, 06:00 PM	#164
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	fruit is bad for you there's a conspiracy to over-estimate the value of an apple pizza = apple jtfc.

09-26-2018, 09:34 PM	#166
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	so fruit is bad, fiber is bullshit, and pizza is good for you.

09-27-2018, 06:09 AM	#171
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	As I've stated, I couldn't care less what serbie eats. Eat shit serbie.

09-27-2018, 06:30 AM	#173
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	Eat shit serbie, it's low in fructose.

09-27-2018, 10:22 AM	#175
Google Expert Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14,295	There is sugar in virtually everything. Open your fridge, grab the first thing you see - there's a 90% chance it contains sugar.

09-27-2018, 12:09 PM	#177
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	Wait for it.... a 3d printed no fiber apple with the nutritional density of a pizza. Trillion dollars idea.

09-27-2018, 06:22 PM	#178
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	dynamo probably hit the front and the back of his head __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

09-27-2018, 06:36 PM	#179
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	It's weird that serbie spends his days and nights attacking Americans on gfy then gets so butthurt when a random American doesn't agree with him that fruit is bad. Especially as BTC Lambo rich as serbie claims to be.

09-27-2018, 06:50 PM	#180
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	__________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

09-27-2018, 06:55 PM	#181
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	It is peculiar. You attack Americans yet demand our approval.

09-27-2018, 06:56 PM	#182
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	dynamo on the left: __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

09-27-2018, 07:02 PM	#183
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,350	serbie on the right