Well, I can only say that the only reason the dossier was not used for political purposes is that it sounds to outrageous to be true.
And the only folks that have really promoted it's existence are those denying any truth to it. That is what gave it any fame in the first place.

It won't matter, after trump makes it nearly impossible for us to have trade in the world, I'd like to see the republicans have to fix what they broke.... only thing is, I think it is possible for them to make it even worse...

I owe my soul to the company store....

Dude everything you wrote there is completely debunked.. For starters the dossier wasn't and STILL hasn't been documented ANY.. (outside of what was already publicly available online.) Buzzfeed has had investigators trying to corroborate it for over a year trying to defend their cases..


Steele TESTIFIED himself in one of those cases that he didn't begin the actual dossier until he was hired by the DNC... He worked on other projects for RNC peeps.... He was hired by DNC and then Nellie Ohr began feeding him info via her husband #3 man at DOJ as well as his "sources" > Oleg Deripaska who is in fact an FBI informant.... This is actual (documented) testimony by her husband Bruce Ohr....... It's undeniable admitted FACT

debunk it here and now for all to see !

Don't mind me if I don't take YOUR word for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/u...-expained.html

I'll let the unclassified documents do the debunking

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6nUN...GJy/source.mp4

Why are Democrat leaders so concerned about him declassifying these documents if they supposedly prove he is guilty? They should be celebrating it.. It gets the ball rolling on his impeachment right? You're getting all of the evidence laid before you..

Manafort will sing and the Podesta brothers will dance. This is just getting started. We are going to have a hell of a party.

The same problems as any other De-classification while a ongoing investigation is occurring.
You endanger sources and methods.

The Train is rolling straight down full gear.

Ah yes, sources and methods.. Sure don't want anyone to know how to do a coup.

Joking, not joking.. Like old Ben here

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnV8uooU4AAUOuf.jpg

I wonder where Ben is running off to so quickly and why?

Not to worry, the cherry picked documents that do not tell the whole story will be out but the whole of the investigation will be out there in the end.
Why try stop this when he denies all / any involvement ?
You will not find any witches in this which hunt, why worry ?

The problem gets to be, when/if they find the right witch, it will be totally compounded with obstruction of Justus now ! how do you spell it
... P R I S O N T I M E
Insuring a very ugly chapter in American history that everyone was hoping to avoid.

But why is trump 'reading and executing' from the book of 'what not to do' ?

I have been laughing all the way. There is absolutely no way to stop this. The only thing you can change is some public opinion in a temporary fashion.

Even if trump is mr clean, nearly everyone around him is going down. And he is implicating himself in obstruction charges.

If you believe in the American way and the rule of law, you should want a clean government. Not ignore it/change it to suit your political purpose.

It is about the Constitution and the rule of law.
Drain that swamp starting with the administration !
Then we can expand from that and hit the house and senate and everyone should be happy !

This country needs a enema !

Cherry picked? He's dumping the entire lot of "evidence against him" in your lap... The FISA warrant which is the beginning or so it's said) and everyone's communications that were involved.. There is no "cherry picking" in fact he stated quite clearly NO REDACTIONS

He's not even capable of using photoshop to that level... he just copy and pastes shit Russian bots post on Twitter and FB..

I hope Mueller asks him, "hey Mr Manafort...how did you end up working on the Trump campaign for no salary while being millions in debt to Russian gangsters? Just curious".

The graphic I posted is confirmed FACT, you uninformed clown

:1orglaugh

I have not herd much from him that he has not reversed on.
Except, building that wall.
Besides
Wait till it happens ! Then tell me !

It's obvious you have not learned anything about how the government works and how trump plays. Even after witnessing the exact same just months ago.

His method has always been go after the accuser with everything you got (all his life)
but nobody is accusing him of anything..... YET !

He is simply grabbing at straws to have a seemingly legit reason to end the investigation that should not bother him if he has done no wrong. He isn't up for election this year so there is plenty of time for the truth to come out beforehand.

Why worry ?

It looks like guilt and smells like guilt and it's going to be obstruction of Justus even if innocent.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Yes, I'm sure he will backtrack on that EO fucking democrats in the ass with no lube

You must of missed the last ENTIRE trial that dealt with financials.. For fucks sake do something with that brain besides STUPID

where it was revealed that he was worse than broke, he was indebted to ruski mobsters for millions and the jury found him guilty of multiple felonies, that ENTIRE trial?

No where it was revealed he had bank loans on rental properties at 60% LTV.. The big gotcha was the rental property was Owner Occupied loan.. So the "fraud" was he wasn't living in the home... Millions of people could get fucked on this stupid fucking law because they took out a mortgage, lived in the home, bought another and rented out that home.. It was also revealed that that matter was rectified to the banks satisfaction.. So now that they busted him with this big crime that Federally insured loan that was being paid on on time now goes into default because he's in jail.

Let's not forget how Imran Awan was snagged on the same charge and walks free today.. Free man after dowloading Congressional data for YEARS

Gobbledygook.

no he is not ... just some pages that he wants '' leaked ''...

You guys were all up in arms about un-redacting no so long ago ... what changed ...

:1orglaugh

By the way, when is Spanky declassifying his tax returns ????

You know... for transparency .... :)

Please explain why Adam Schiff, Pelosi, and Schumer are trying to block the release of the info. They are against transparency because it will exposes their lies. Get a clue man

You are leaving out something really important, don't you think? Come on man this is easy to research.


YOU SIR..... get a free beer!


"Train keep-a rollin', all night long. Train keep-a rollin', all night long."


Geeezuz that's disturbing.

Nice vid. Backwards! But nice.

People are saying they want this over. They don't seem to understand how this works. An investigation at this level isn't done in months, it's done in years. Watergate, Whitewater.... These investigations took six years each.

But whatever, it's a nothing burger.

...LOL...
I want this over also.
And I want it to end in 'DRAINING THE SWAMP' as promised. No matter how long that takes. I'm sorry that POTUS feels implicated but perhaps he is. He acts like it.

Always wanted to see capital hill to receive her enema.
I hope this investigation in some way spreads to congress. But I doubt anyone there is smart enough to do anything but run for office and raise money by selling out our constitution. Do what they are told to do by their party.

Funny, the guy who promised us that has reversed his position on it. Think how much different this would be if POTUS encouraged the investigation to drain that swamp and protect our elections. It at least sells better.

But I have had a serious wake-up call on who America really is. But I guess it's easy to sell the idea you are better then them and they are responsible for your meager plight. So, I'm not sure I should blame them.
I just thought we were smarter and better than that. Shame on me.
No compassion for anything but MONEY. And using HATE to get it.

I wonder if anything has changed in the party primary rules. One would think that the republicans at least would not like to see this repeated.

Only the voters can say 'there are consequences for your actions'
People vote from a self generated road map of argument instead of what they aspire to be.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/21/p...ies/index.html

Mmm it would seem other counties were involved, be a cunt if it was Australia given our laws here and our ability to tap into basically any satellite to monitor "communications", wonder what they do with two football fields of computer banks in the middle of the desert, super chess games maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap

take good note of where it says "transmissions intended for communications satellites" microwave emissions, such as long-distance telephone calls.".. then google , project echelon

"In 1988, Margaret Newsham, a Lockheed employee under NSA contract, disclosed the ECHELON surveillance system to members of congress. Newsham told a member of the U.S. Congress that the telephone calls of Strom Thurmond, a Republican U.S. senator, were being collected by the NSA. Congressional investigators determined that "targeting of U.S. political figures would not occur by accident, but was designed into the system from the start."

All the old thinking and reference from things 20 or more years ago are all out the window after 911 and the patriot act and a mighty upgrade to capability.

The problem with the rules that are there and seem to add a good intent image to the services is that they can be easily by-passed on minor details.

Now go look-up the sting-ray 2's that were purchased for the major metro's for cellular ease dropping.
A program with seemingly good intent but without accountability for where the equipment is and who is using it for what purpose.
When New York got theirs, most of them were used to ease-drop on wall-street for self enrichment and later used for political purposes.
And there are 100's of metro's with them now.

They are all on touchy ground using them because they are a 'man-in-the-middle' attack system. Which means they have a transmitter not licensed by the FCC and have been given permission to use in 'life-or-death situations' as is always been the case with any transmitter.
You will not find a court case where they can show that they used it in gathering evidence because it is not legal. but use them they do.
But in a un-tracked device with this capability, this is not something that should be taken lightly by the public.
But they do not know it has been going on. There needs to be a strict reviewable log as to their where-abouts and usage.

This is why the big push-back on Apple's encryption. They could not break it with a sting-ray 2 or later revisions to it. They could not be man in the middle on a 4g apple encrypted network stream.
They were getting the encryption keys by forcing the phones down to 2g and back-up to 3g. I think apple was aware of it as I have been for 8 years.
The system is so simple that anyone with the knowledge can build them for under $1k at present. How safe do you feel now ?

Anything bad that can happen with good tech will happen because it can.
Pandora's box equated. Can you stop it or just somewhat protect yourself from it.
Nothing if you don't know about it in the first place.

It is because of revealing sources and methods of folks that are still under investigation.
When in your life have you ever seen the FBI show the information it had on a investigation of folks who are still under investigation.
You don't because many do not know they are under investigation and for what charge.

Can you think past a headline ? Do you know history at all ? I think not !

Onwebcam is just a moron who tries to make everything negitive about Trump into some deepstate conspiracy.. Hes straight up fucking nuts.


For fucks sake, even in the adult industry it used to be common to see some cheater get caught and post that the affiliate program wouldnt prove it.. The reason, is because they didnt want the cheats to know how tney got caught....

he's a fucking traitor. Or is he even American?

All of you guys who stick up for Trump and are moaning about his associates being the subject of criminal investigations are fucking traitors. The consequences are coming for his crime family and if Trump doesn't get the hammer dropped on him during his presidency, he'll be facing criminal charges when he's done...which hopefully is before the 4 years is up. He deserves only the worst things to happen to him and I'll be laughing while it happens.

:thumbsup

Investigating what? Rushhunn CahlouuuuShunn :1orglaugh

Legally the president is the standard for classification, and can classify or declassify anything federal. That's why the president being under investigation is such a strange situation. Constitutionally the entire JD works for the president. There is no legal way to prevent or hold president accountable for anything he chooses to release.

God there are so many lols in this thread. Imagine the treasure trove we'll have to bump and laugh at when that Mueller report drops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...utrage-n980821

Well,
When the feds are done with him NY will probably get him for 5 more.
He will likely die in prison.