Trump Administration May Require Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially

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  • OneHungLo
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2001
    • 40906

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    Trump Administration May Require Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially


    A long-anticipated plan to enforce provisions in the nation’s immigration laws that require prospective immigrants to be able to support themselves financially—so-called public-charge provisions—might be introduced by the Trump administration this month.

    The proposed regulations, defining the phrase “public charge” under Section 212(a)(4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, may be published this fall, and possibly as early as this month, according to a person close to the rulemaking process of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) who requested anonymity.

    Left-wing advocacy organizations have attacked any attempt to formally define “public charge” as being cruel and xenophobic, and aimed at drastically curtailing the flow of immigrants to the United States. But the lengths to which the new regulation will go remain to be seen.

    Francis Cissna, director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), an agency within DHS, discussed a possible draft of the regulation during an Aug. 15 event at the National Press Club in Washington, hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

    “The goal is not to reduce immigration or, in some diabolical fashion, shut the door on people, family-based immigration, or anything like that,” Cissna said. “The goal is simply to enforce a ground of inadmissibility to this country that’s been on the books for about 100–well, more than 100 years.”

    Cissna said the public-charge section in the law, a provision that has “hardly ever been enforced,” states that “an alien who in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the secretary of Homeland Security at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status—getting a green card—is likely at any time to become a public charge is inadmissible.”

    The phrase “likely to become a public charge” has “never been, as far as I know” interpreted in any regulation, he said. There was an attempt in the 1990s to define the expression, but it was dropped.

    Cissna said the administration wants to “issue proper regulations open to full public comment, to, at long last, interpret what that means.”

    A document purporting to be a copy of the draft regulation was published online by The Washington Post. It states:

    “Aliens who are seeking adjustment of status or an immigrant visa, or who are applicants for admission, must establish that they are not likely at any time to become a public charge. Moreover, DHS will require aliens seeking an extension of stay or change of status demonstrate that they are not using or receiving, nor likely to use or receive, public benefits.”

    The public-charge principle has been part of the American experience for centuries.

    As James R. Edwards Jr. wrote in a 2001 paper for the Center for Immigration Studies, “Public-charge doctrine has been part of American immigration law since colonial days.”

    “The English colony of Massachusetts enacted the earliest American public-charge laws in 1645. The arrival in the colonies of undesirables spurred other colonies to enact similar laws.

    “By the end of the seventeenth century, American colonists were especially reluctant to extend a welcome to impoverished foreigners and the ‘rogues and vagabonds’ that England had so graciously decided she could spare. Many colonies protected themselves against public charges through such measures as mandatory reporting of ship passengers, immigrant screening and exclusion upon arrival of designated ‘undesirables,’ and requiring bonds for potential public charges,” he wrote.


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...s_2655919.html
  • DBS.US
    Geo Cities
    • Aug 2003
    • 11843

    #2
    Lets try: Support Themselves Financially and a three year code of conduct probation.
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    • pimpmaster9000
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      • Dec 2011
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      #3
      Immigrants are a red herring...carry on now...
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      • BaldBastard
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        • Jan 2001
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        #4
        Problem with that is when you look at immigrants and especially their children, how much money the parents had or what they do, is no indication at all as to how those children will succeed.

        I know a trust fund kid like Trump would have difficulty grasping that as he sits on his golden toilet for his morning shit buts its so.

        If you look at the USA right now the most probmatic immigrants seem to be those from eastern block countries and Russia, which are going out of there way to divide America, look at deporting those cunts and having higher requirements and vetting from them like Australia does and then the problems seem to fade as everyone integrates.

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        • DraX
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          • Oct 2002
          • 7147

          #5
          Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
          If you look at the USA right now the most probmatic immigrants seem to be those from eastern block countries and Russia, which are going out of there way to divide America, look at deporting those cunts and having higher requirements and vetting from them like Australia does and then the problems seem to fade as everyone integrates.
          Do you have any kind of proof to that claim that Eastern European immigrants in U.S. is causing trouble?
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          • OneHungLo
            So Fucking Banned
            • May 2001
            • 40906

            #6
            Originally posted by DraX
            Do you have any kind of proof to that claim that Eastern European immigrants in U.S. is causing trouble?
            Just about everything he posts here are lies. Trust me, we have no problems with white russian or eastern euros but we do have many problems with brown and muslim immigrants.

            Mrbb will be in shortly to tell us how he’d rather have those brown muslims in his country of couse as he posts from one of the whitest countries on the planet.

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            • BaldBastard
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              • Jan 2001
              • 16805

              #7
              Originally posted by OneHungLo
              Just about everything he posts here are lies. Trust me, we have no problems with white russian or eastern euros but we do have many problems with brown and muslim immigrants.

              Mrbb will be in shortly to tell us how he’d rather have those brown muslims in his country of couse as he posts from one of the whitest countries on the planet.
              I hate to link to this but..

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nsus-2016.html

              The latest census figures reveal the Muslim population in Australia has soared to more than 604,000 people.. ( America is basically 12x the Size of Aus ) USA per captia has less than half the Muslim population we do.

              > quarter of Australian people (26 per cent) said they were born overseas.

              Also realise.. 70% of people live cities, making Australia one of the world’s most urbanised countries

              Now I'm not saying that's good but when you look at issues and what the underlaying problems are... Its always the eastern blockers and their offspring causing all the shit.

              Deport the Ruskis.. live in harmony.

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              • astronaut x
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                • May 2011
                • 4844

                #8
                meh meh meh
                Hello

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                • BaldBastard
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 16805

                  #9
                  nah it's fact, you want a map of racial issues in the world, look at Russian immigration and you soon note where they go issues go.

                  problem with America is.. you let in too many Russians, same goes with Germany, UK and Israel.

                  fuckem off back to the potato land.

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                  • OneHungLo
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                    • May 2001
                    • 40906

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                    > quarter of Australian people (26 per cent) said they were born overseas.
                    Overseas..in white European countries.

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                    • BaldBastard
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                      • Jan 2001
                      • 16805

                      #11
                      Originally posted by OneHungLo
                      Overseas..in white European countries.
                      Its not 1963 no more you realise???

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                      • Sarn
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                        • Sep 2015
                        • 12405

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OneHungLo

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                        • Sarn
                          WW3
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 12405

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                          nah it's fact, you want a map of racial issues in the world, look at Russian immigration and you soon note where they go issues go.

                          problem with America is.. you let in too many Russians, same goes with Germany, UK and Israel.

                          fuckem off back to the potato land.
                          Even from Israel lol I agree need back them to homeland
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                          • bronco67
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 29032

                            #14
                            and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.

                            The Trump administration will "determine" that no immigrants entering the country will be able to support themselves financially by some arbitrary measure they pull from their ass.

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                            • Sarn
                              WW3
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 12405

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bronco67
                              and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.

                              The Trump administration will "determine" that no immigrants entering the country will be able to support themselves financially by some arbitrary measure they pull from their ass.
                              With money will come, other people, not workers. Often from the 3rd world, it will be successful gangsters.
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                              • crockett
                                in a van by the river
                                • May 2003
                                • 76818

                                #16
                                Onehunglow is a Russian anchor baby.. deport him
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                                • Sarn
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                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 12405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                  Onehunglow is a Russian anchor baby.. deport him
                                  If relatives come to America from Russia a long long time ago - need to send too
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                                  • beerptrol
                                    Confirmed Asshole
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 12722

                                    #18
                                    Maybe they can get some Russians to financially support them like they do with Chump
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                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                      • Dec 2011
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                                      #19
                                      funny how there were never immigrants before this...oh wait there were

                                      but now they are a problem all of a sudden

                                      no red herring at all
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                                      • OneHungLo
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                                        • May 2001
                                        • 40906

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                        Its not 1963 no more you realise???
                                        Are you actually trying to say that AUS is anything other than a lily white country?

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                                        • OneHungLo
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 40906

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially?
                                          The same way they do in many other countries. You act like this is so difficult. Would you have any problems showing another country proof of funds in a bank or that you own property?

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                                          • TheSquealer
                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                            • Oct 2004
                                            • 26172

                                            #22
                                            Oh look... immigration rules similar to those that any other developed nation has.
                                            .
                                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                            Rochard

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                                            • BaldBastard
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 16805

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                              Are you actually trying to say that AUS is anything other than a lily white country?
                                              Per capita we take in nearly three times as many Muslims than America, 1 in 25 is born overseas, the country sending the most immigrant's now is... China which over took UK and NZ last year, and by the end of this year the UK will be over taken by.. India

                                              Lilly white is long gone, think more Turmeric mocha latte

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                                              • OneHungLo
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 40906

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                Per capita we take in nearly three times as many Muslims than America, 1 in 25 is born overseas, the country sending the most immigrant's now is... China which over took UK and NZ last year, and by the end of this year the UK will be over taken by.. India

                                                Lilly white is long gone, think more Turmeric mocha latte
                                                Oh so your muslim population is a whopping 3%?

                                                Dude, as usual, you're lying.

                                                Say it with me...L-I-L-Y W-H-I-T-E

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                                                • OneHungLo
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                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 40906

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                  Oh look... immigration rules similar to those that any other developed nation has.
                                                  Pretty much, right lol.

                                                  isn't it crazy how these libs are actually against this?

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                                                  • SIK
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                                                    • Dec 2006
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bronco67
                                                    and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.
                                                    If I remember right, back in the day when my father intended to move to Australia (like, 20 y ago or so), they had a rule that you must have something like 20 000 USD or whatever, to make sure you're not instantly asking for welfare (can't remember the numbers exactly, but that sounds about accurate)

                                                    that is also a good logic if you ask me, otherwise you're just welcoming moochers and potential criminals
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                                                    • BaldBastard
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                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 16805

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                      Oh so your muslim population is a whopping 3%?

                                                      Dude, as usual, you're lying.

                                                      Say it with me...L-I-L-Y W-H-I-T-E
                                                      https://www.finder.com.au/australia-...ion-march-2017

                                                      Top 10 countries for Australian migration in March 2017

                                                      India
                                                      China
                                                      Iraq
                                                      New Zealand

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                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                        • 26172

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                        https://www.finder.com.au/australia-...ion-march-2017

                                                        Top 10 countries for Australian migration in March 2017

                                                        India
                                                        China
                                                        Iraq
                                                        New Zealand
                                                        Immigration is not the same as migrant workers on a work visa you dumb turd.
                                                        .
                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                        Rochard

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                                                        • BaldBastard
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                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 16805

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SIK
                                                          If I remember right, back in the day when my father intended to move to Australia (like, 20 y ago or so), they had a rule that you must have something like 20 000 USD or whatever, to make sure you're not instantly asking for welfare (can't remember the numbers exactly, but that sounds about accurate)

                                                          that is also a good logic if you ask me, otherwise you're just welcoming moochers and potential criminals
                                                          Depends on the Visa you apply for, this year for example they let in 24000 refugees, so no requirements for them.

                                                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tarian-program

                                                          That's on top of immigration of about 250,000 a year

                                                          3412.0 - Migration, Australia, 2016-17

                                                          Most people come in now by what you call chain migration in the USA, Chinese especially use that a lot.

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                                                          • marlboroack
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                                                            • Jul 2010
                                                            • 9327

                                                            #30
                                                            What a big fat fucking clown

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                                                            • BaldBastard
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 16805

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                              Immigration is not the same as migrant workers on a work visa you dumb turd.
                                                              yes and no, its sort of different here being an island once your in your in sort of thing, the only real exception is student visas. But if you want to add then figure goes through the roof with an additional 600,000 temporary migrants

                                                              And none of these stats count New Zealanders, of which there's nearly a million here..me being one.

                                                              https://insidestory.org.au/how-many-...lia-each-year/

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                                                              • King Mark
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                                                                • Aug 2016
                                                                • 27033

                                                                #32
                                                                Regular immigrants, yeah. Refugees, they ain't got time for all that.

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                                                                • Sarn
                                                                  WW3
                                                                  • Sep 2015
                                                                  • 12405

                                                                  #33
                                                                  let's send all refugees to Australia!
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                                                                  • Phoenix
                                                                    BACON BACON BACON
                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 35475

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Don't they have to now?
                                                                    I know a Korean family here, who were balling in Korea. They sold their house and moved the family here, just in hopes and to put their kids into school.
                                                                    He was mid level at a large stock firm there, doing well. Now he cuts sushi.
                                                                    She never had to work, now she is serving food also.
                                                                    They are paying for themselves in the hope that they can stay.
                                                                    I want to add they are 100% happy to do this, it is for their kids.
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                                                                    • Matt 26z
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                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                      • 18481

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                      but when you look at issues and what the underlaying problems are... Its always the eastern blockers and their offspring causing all the shit.
                                                                      From what I'm hearing from people in Australia, it's the "boat people" (african muslims) who are the bane of Australia right now. There is a lot of theft.


                                                                      Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                      Deport the Ruskis.. live in harmony.
                                                                      Here in the US the only immigrant group that causes problems are the illegal immigrant mexicans. The bar of entry is so low for mexicans that we are importing the type of people that Mexico can't wait to get rid of. Their communities spread like cancer here, destroying everything as their population grows.

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                                                                      • Rochard
                                                                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 75733

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Isn't the way it already works for some types of visas?

                                                                        For a student visa, you have to be enrolled in school. For work visas it's the same. I remember having to verify that someone worked for the company every six months because they were in the US on some visa.
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