Gallery Designer with best CTR - GoFuckYourself.com

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 03:58 PM

Who has the best click through rate to the sponsor of all the gallery designers you have used.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 04:02 PM

Thats a very hard question to answer. Oh wait , not its not..Mine are the best.

J/K. Take a look at my galleries. Depending on where the traffic is from, Ive done anywhere from .5% to 10%.

Good luck with your guest

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:03 PM

I've heard of some of my galleries doing in upwards of 3-5%

I've always thought that this would make a good contest...there's alot of variable to consider...it'd be tought to measure.

Plus I think that a large portion of the galleries effectiveness is the degree to which the content is match to the gallery and the sales pitch.

TheViper · 05-01-2003, 04:03 PM

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 04:05 PM

Come on bring out the sock puppets, I want to hear from the purchasers not the designers!!!!!

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
10%.

*cough* *cough* bullshit *cough*

SpaceAce · 05-01-2003, 04:07 PM

I had a gallery on the Hun a few weeks ago that generated about 14,000 clicks in the first 24 hours (counted by CCBill). My other CCBill galleries in the same spot on the Hun do 5-7K clickthroughs in the first day. Other sponsors that count lower numbers usually see 1.5-5K clicks in the first day.

I am not sure what the ratio is because I don't bother to track the actual number of visitors, just bandwidth. From talking to other webmasters, though, I think the clickthroughs are pretty high.

SpaceAce

Carlito · 05-01-2003, 04:08 PM

LOL, I have done rather well with my hosted galleries as well, just depends what you want. VTR is not necessarily good if its just a ton of pissed off surfers looking for something else. Then again, get all the traffic you can to the sponsor! Ratios mean nothing.

SR · 05-01-2003, 04:08 PM

My best is over 30% CTR.
No bullshit.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-

*cough* *cough* bullshit *cough*

ever buy traffic with Choker and add Vids or Pics on HTML pages?

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:18 PM

This thread has sparked curiousity....so I'll throw down a white glove...

One gallery, same traffic, we'll test clickthrus and joins...

Just for fun and bragging rights...

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by SR
My best is over 30% CTR.
No bullshit.

"CLICK HERE FOR TOTALLY FREE HARDCORE VIDEOS!"

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Ray

ever buy traffic with Choker and add Vids or Pics on HTML pages?

Who else besides choker allows pics/vids on html pages?

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 04:32 PM

Hoax thats a damn good idea....

But I can see some issues with cheating that could possibly come up, I mean how tough would it be to throw a hitbot at the gallery.

Maybe the solution would be to track signup's instead...

Hmmm the logistics of this could get difficult...

SR · 05-01-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-

"CLICK HERE FOR TOTALLY FREE HARDCORE VIDEOS!"

Nah

But close to something like that.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-

"CLICK HERE FOR TOTALLY FREE HARDCORE VIDEOS!"

exactly!!

CTR is great but if your link does 10% and sais

CLICK HERE FOR TOTALLY FREE HARDCORE VIDEOS

and you send them to a pay site, guess what..No sales.

If your link does 2% and sais "Click here to join for $2.99" your makin money.

I personanly like "Click Here To Watch Our Free Trailers"...the site HAS to have what you say it has. If you lie to your surfer you lose his trust...ba bye sign-up.

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 04:34 PM

Yea blind and misleading text would inflate the ratio, but im talking about galleries that would be excepted on the TGP's...

Anyone can make a gallery, it takes a bit of tallent to make something that works for a campaign...

StupidNewbie · 05-01-2003, 04:34 PM

why does click thru matter? you promoting a payperclick sponsor?

Backov · 05-01-2003, 04:38 PM

Galleries in our system average around 5-7%, at least the good ones that we can track. Our loyal clients report similar numbers, with very little blind linking or "click here for free blowjob" links.

I find that Tom (va2k) and Fletch both do very good work.. Haven't seen the rest of you fellas stuff. ;>

jimmy3way · 05-01-2003, 04:39 PM

Oddly I have been using two galleries of very similar design lately with differrent text. The CTR of one is almost double: the one with the lower CTR makes more sales.

A qualified buy is a qualified buyer I guess.

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ketadream
Hoax thats a damn good idea....

But I can see some issues with cheating that could possibly come up, I mean how tough would it be to throw a hitbot at the gallery.

Maybe the solution would be to track signup's instead...

Hmmm the logistics of this could get difficult...

Well that's the thing...a hitbot really has no bearing...that's why I quote my ctr's at like 3-5% sure I've had those hard sell galleries that pulled like hell but the joins weren't there.

And if your ctr's are huge and your sells suck...that's indicative of either a hitbot or poor sales technique...

In my experience 1.5 - 2.5% ctr is average...on all types of traffic across the board. Mind you that's also converting at a decent ratio...its a tender balance...

On the flip side of the coin if your sponsor can't convert the eyeballs lookin at it, you're gonna fail anyway...

But I'd be very interested to see some numbers and some samples and some techniques and no one wants to give that knowledge away necessarily anyway...

I think its funny how many people pay for a graphically pretty gallery that sucks up BW and produces only mildly well...

seven · 05-01-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
*cough* *cough* bullshit *cough*

NOT when you have texts like this:
FREE HARDCORE FUCKING MOVIE PREVIEWS
but the ratio will look real bad

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 04:45 PM

Hoax your dead on in my thinking...

I would love to see a controlled contest..but the only way it would have any meaning I can see is if every designer pushed the same sponser, the end ratio's where what determined it.

And it was only posted on the same TGP or with the same ammount of seed traffic.

Unfrotunatly the control aspects are a bit difficult. I wonder how hard this would be to pull off, to get the "certified kick ass gallery designer stamp"

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 04:51 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.net/showth...sign+ contest

Welcome to my ideas as of a few months ago...if you wanna get it going let me know or bump the thread...or it can be on a smaller scale...

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 04:56 PM

Yea but if I bump your thread I wont get the X-Box...

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 05:02 PM

If we bump the thread and I get one I'll send it to you...or start your own I don't care...but that means the work involved in the whole thing would fall heavily on your shoulders...

I think I even have the rules in a text file at home somewhere...I forget why that never went through...it looked like we had enough support...

I think the timing is a bit better now though...galleries have really become popular...

Ketadream · 05-01-2003, 05:08 PM

Honestly I could care less about the x-box I was just kidding.

I do think that if there was alot of trafic and background in the other post we should resurect it...

-=HOAX=- · 05-01-2003, 05:09 PM

email [email protected]

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

NOT when you have texts like this:
FREE HARDCORE FUCKING MOVIE PREVIEWS
but the ratio will look real bad

If the tour indeed has FREE HARDCORE FUCKING MOVIE PREVIEWS, and your still not converting, change spronsor.

Most of my picture galleries have a similar links and I do great. My last link will say something like "CLICK HERE FOR FREE MOVIE PREVIEWS". I send my surfers to a TopBucks site that has FREE MOVIE PREVIEWS and Ill convert it at less than 1:100.

seven · 05-01-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
I send my surfers to a TopBucks site that has FREE MOVIE PREVIEWS and Ill convert it at less than 1:100.

You must be the luckiest man I've ever come cross ;-) I wouldn't be too sure about tb clickstats anyways. Besides when you say "Free Movie Preview" it doesn't matter if the tour has free movies or not you are inviting the FREELOADERS therefore your ratio WILL suck

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by seven

You must be the luckiest man I've ever come cross ;-) I wouldn't be too sure about tb clickstats anyways. Besides when you say "Free Movie Preview" it doesn't matter if the tour has free movies or not you are inviting the FREELOADERS therefore your ratio WILL suck

If you say "Free Movie Preview" and you send then to a tour that has a "Free Movie Preview" you have your clients trust. Now its upto your sponsor to make the sale.

good luck

ps. Did I sell you some galleries? If I did please post the ones that are not doing well for you. We'll try to see what the porblem is.

seven · 05-01-2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
If you say "Free Movie Preview" and you send then to a tour that has a "Free Movie Preview" you have your clients trust. Now its upto your sponsor to make the sale.

good luck

Man I wish you quit arguing already. I've been building galleries for last five years, running galleries on paid slots. There ain't anything I haven't tested yet so please keep your bright ideas to yourself. 1:100 "Free Movie Preview" my ass you wouldn't get that to tb even with a textlink mentioning 2.99 trial regardless if the tour contains movies or not. Perhaps you may end up with a couple extra sign-ups with a text link like that at the end but your ratio WILL look BAD. There's a big difference between a "designer" and a "gallery builder" and you are just sounding more like a designer than a gallery builder ;-)

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by seven

Man I wish you quit arguing already. I've been building galleries for last five years, running galleries on paid slots. There ain't anything I haven't tested yet so please keep your bright ideas to yourself. 1:100 "Free Movie Preview" my ass you wouldn't get that to tb even with a textlink mentioning 2.99 trial regardless if the tour contains movies or not. Perhaps you may end up with a couple extra sign-ups with a text link like that at the end but your ratio WILL look BAD. There's a big difference between a "designer" and a "gallery builder" and you are just sounding more like a designer than a gallery builder ;-)

what the fuck are so testy about? "keep your bright ideas to yourself" It a discusion board, chill the fuck out. Its not my fault you cant do ratios 1:100.

peace

seven · 05-01-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
Its not my fault you cant do ratios 1:100.

Nawh I do 1:10 :-)))

Why testy? Cos repeated "bullshit" to promote oneself annoys the living fuck out of me

Also, I wouldn't even pay $5 for galleries like these:
http://www.freepornsexpics.net/gallery/1228luci-milf/
http://www.freepornsexgallery.com/gallery/0211cff/

Here are some galleries I like:
http://www.thegallerypeople.com/samples.html

Here are some prices I like:
http://www.thegallerypeople.com/galleries.html

So how about chill you? ;-)

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

Nawh I do 1:10 :-)))

Why testy? Cos repeated "bullshit" to promote oneself annoys the living fuck out of me

Also, I wouldn't even pay $5 for galleries like these:
http://www.freepornsexpics.net/gallery/1228luci-milf/
http://www.freepornsexgallery.com/gallery/0211cff/

Here are some galleries I like:
http://www.thegallerypeople.com/samples.html

Here are some prices I like:
http://www.thegallerypeople.com/galleries.html

So how about chill you? ;-)

So your impresed by cool graphics? LOL, cool graphics dont do shit for valuable CTR, but then again you know that..your a "gallery builder".

What an asshole man, this tread started out as a CTR discussion and turn into a bashing contest. Fuck gives you the wright to post my galleries and bad mouth them like that. What comes round goes round, your gonna get yours motha fuka!!

You can take your $5 galleries stick em up your ass.

seven · 05-01-2003, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
So your impresed by cool graphics? LOL, cool graphics dont do shit for valuable CTR, but then again you know that..your a "gallery builder".

If it ain't for cool graphics why would anyone need a designer? You don't need a designer and pay $35/gallery for simple texts.

EscortBiz · 05-01-2003, 08:45 PM

so you think a facny gallery gets more clicks?

A plain simple teaser gallery that is related to the paysite you are promoting will work just fine.

Leave the fancy text and images at home and post easy to read text links on the gallery.

I have spots weekly on major TGP's

seven · 05-01-2003, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
so you think a facny gallery gets more clicks?

A plain simple teaser gallery that is related to the paysite you are promoting will work just fine.

Leave the fancy text and images at home and post easy to read text links on the gallery.

I have spots weekly on major TGP's

and you don't need a pro designer for that either.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-01-2003, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

If it ain't for cool graphics why would anyone need a designer? You don't need a designer and pay $35/gallery for simple texts.

You told me Im starting to sound like a "Gallery designer" and not a "gallery builder". Now your saying that people sould pay for a gallery designer?

Look, lets not take this to far, its not worth it. We all have our opinions.

Seven, I said all I have to say. Sorry it turned out ugly between us. Go swoit yourself.

later,
Ray

ps.

For what its worth I trully believe that graphic heavy galleries suck balls. Sure they are great to impress other(some) webmaster, they are great for selling galleries to newbies. But when it comes down to selling memberships, they suck. But you know what dont take my word for it, take a good look around, check out the top spots. Everybody who is reading this go the The Hun, check the paid spots. Those are guys are the elite in the TGP market, check out their galleries. Count how many have grphic heavy pages.

seven · 05-01-2003, 09:31 PM

Ok Cooled

Quote:

You told me Im starting to sound like a "Gallery designer" and not a "gallery builder". Now your saying that people sould pay for a gallery designer?

What I meant was if you want to pay then pay for cool graphics or do it yourself.

Quote:

For what its worth I trully believe that graphic heavy galleries suck balls. Sure they are great to impress other(some) webmaster, they are great for selling galleries to newbies. But when it comes down to selling memberships, they suck.

No they don't suck but may not perform anything out of ordinary either.. well if they are just too heavy graphics will suck cos of slower load time.

Quote:

Everybody who is reading this go the The Hun, check the paid spots. Those are guys are the elite in the TGP market, check out their galleries.

I maybe one of those guys? ;-) Anyways, maybe the newbies need designers more than experienced builders in order to get a clue first and for the ones that are absolutley grahpically handicapped

.. just that i think $35/gallery is a bit too pricey for simple texts but that's just me

05-01-2003, 03:58 PM	#1
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Gallery Designer with best CTR Who has the best click through rate to the sponsor of all the gallery designers you have used. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-01-2003, 04:02 PM	#2
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Thats a very hard question to answer. Oh wait , not its not..Mine are the best. J/K. Take a look at my galleries. Depending on where the traffic is from, Ive done anywhere from .5% to 10%. Good luck with your guest __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

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-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	I've heard of some of my galleries doing in upwards of 3-5% I've always thought that this would make a good contest...there's alot of variable to consider...it'd be tought to measure. Plus I think that a large portion of the galleries effectiveness is the degree to which the content is match to the gallery and the sales pitch. __________________ Insert Value Here.

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Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Come on bring out the sock puppets, I want to hear from the purchasers not the designers!!!!! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	This thread has sparked curiousity....so I'll throw down a white glove... One gallery, same traffic, we'll test clickthrus and joins... Just for fun and bragging rights... __________________ Insert Value Here.

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SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I had a gallery on the Hun a few weeks ago that generated about 14,000 clicks in the first 24 hours (counted by CCBill). My other CCBill galleries in the same spot on the Hun do 5-7K clickthroughs in the first day. Other sponsors that count lower numbers usually see 1.5-5K clicks in the first day. I am not sure what the ratio is because I don't bother to track the actual number of visitors, just bandwidth. From talking to other webmasters, though, I think the clickthroughs are pretty high. SpaceAce

05-01-2003, 04:08 PM	#8
Carlito Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 856	LOL, I have done rather well with my hosted galleries as well, just depends what you want. VTR is not necessarily good if its just a ton of pissed off surfers looking for something else. Then again, get all the traffic you can to the sponsor! Ratios mean nothing.

05-01-2003, 04:08 PM	#9
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	My best is over 30% CTR. No bullshit.

05-01-2003, 04:32 PM	#14
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Hoax thats a damn good idea.... But I can see some issues with cheating that could possibly come up, I mean how tough would it be to throw a hitbot at the gallery. Maybe the solution would be to track signup's instead... Hmmm the logistics of this could get difficult... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-01-2003, 04:34 PM	#17
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Yea blind and misleading text would inflate the ratio, but im talking about galleries that would be excepted on the TGP's... Anyone can make a gallery, it takes a bit of tallent to make something that works for a campaign... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-01-2003, 04:34 PM	#18
StupidNewbie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 864	why does click thru matter? you promoting a payperclick sponsor?

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Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	Galleries in our system average around 5-7%, at least the good ones that we can track. Our loyal clients report similar numbers, with very little blind linking or "click here for free blowjob" links. I find that Tom (va2k) and Fletch both do very good work.. Haven't seen the rest of you fellas stuff. ;> __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

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jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Oddly I have been using two galleries of very similar design lately with differrent text. The CTR of one is almost double: the one with the lower CTR makes more sales. A qualified buy is a qualified buyer I guess. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

05-01-2003, 04:45 PM	#23
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Hoax your dead on in my thinking... I would love to see a controlled contest..but the only way it would have any meaning I can see is if every designer pushed the same sponser, the end ratio's where what determined it. And it was only posted on the same TGP or with the same ammount of seed traffic. Unfrotunatly the control aspects are a bit difficult. I wonder how hard this would be to pull off, to get the "certified kick ass gallery designer stamp" __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-01-2003, 04:51 PM	#24
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	http://www.gofuckyourself.net/showth...sign+ contest Welcome to my ideas as of a few months ago...if you wanna get it going let me know or bump the thread...or it can be on a smaller scale... __________________ Insert Value Here.

05-01-2003, 04:56 PM	#25
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Yea but if I bump your thread I wont get the X-Box... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	If we bump the thread and I get one I'll send it to you...or start your own I don't care...but that means the work involved in the whole thing would fall heavily on your shoulders... I think I even have the rules in a text file at home somewhere...I forget why that never went through...it looked like we had enough support... I think the timing is a bit better now though...galleries have really become popular... __________________ Insert Value Here.

05-01-2003, 05:08 PM	#27
Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Honestly I could care less about the x-box I was just kidding. I do think that if there was alot of trafic and background in the other post we should resurect it... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	email [email protected] __________________ Insert Value Here.

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