This Pill Could Reverse Type 2 Diabetes

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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #16
    Originally posted by GFED
    I'm unable to process the carbs. Such as potatoes, rice, and noodles. Those have been a main staple for many years. Is that not an effect from the diabetes?
    My understanding is that every diabetic's situation is unique. I'm not sure why you have a carb intolerance. How do you know you don't process those?

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    • GFED
      Confirmed User
      • May 2002
      • 8121

      #17
      Originally posted by dyna mo
      My understanding is that every diabetic's situation is unique. I'm not sure why you have a carb intolerance. How do you know you don't process those?
      Just a guess since I never intaked a lot of sugar and still had really high levels. My mother was the type that would only let me eat Chinese desserts because Americans use too much sugar. I actually prefer a Chinese cake over an American one. She once bought a package of Oreos from the market and ended up scraping the filling out of each one and put them back in the package.

      After changing my diet and walking 3-4 times a day it's been under control. It could be just the exercise. I owe a lot to my dog.
      https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184

        #18
        Originally posted by GFED
        Just a guess since I never intaked a lot of sugar and still had really high levels. My mother was the type that would only let me eat Chinese desserts because Americans use too much sugar. I actually prefer a Chinese cake over an American one. She once bought a package of Oreos from the market and ended up scraping the filling out of each one and put them back in the package.

        After changing my diet and walking 3-4 times a day it's been under control. It could be just the exercise. I owe a lot to my dog.
        oh, i misunderstood your question. I think what you are referring to is what's called insulin sensitivity. You may have had a high insulin insensitivity which led to those carbs having a greater impact on your glucose levels.

        good to hear you got it sorted out !

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        • TheSquealer
          Mayor of Thneedville
          • Oct 2004
          • 26172

          #19
          Originally posted by GFED
          Just a guess since I never intaked a lot of sugar and still had really high levels. My mother was the type that would only let me eat Chinese desserts because Americans use too much sugar. I actually prefer a Chinese cake over an American one. She once bought a package of Oreos from the market and ended up scraping the filling out of each one and put them back in the package.

          After changing my diet and walking 3-4 times a day it's been under control. It could be just the exercise. I owe a lot to my dog.
          We are not supposed to be eating sugar. At all. Ever. Consider this... even natural sugars - like those in fruits. Think back 10,000 years.... What is the availability in nature of those sugars? A week or two per year? In a very limited form.

          Now, think about this question very carefully...

          "how do you fatten up a cow"?

          You feed them not grass as they are designed to eat... but grains and sugar. You give them the exact sources of calories which diminish their bodies ability to properly process and burn the calories and are then stored as fat, That is the current human diet.
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          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

          Rochard

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          • TheSquealer
            Mayor of Thneedville
            • Oct 2004
            • 26172

            #20
            Originally posted by GFED
            Just a guess since I never intaked a lot of sugar and still had really high levels. My mother was the type that would only let me eat Chinese desserts because Americans use too much sugar. I actually prefer a Chinese cake over an American one. She once bought a package of Oreos from the market and ended up scraping the filling out of each one and put them back in the package.

            After changing my diet and walking 3-4 times a day it's been under control. It could be just the exercise. I owe a lot to my dog.
            Blood glucose levels don't have to be from sugar. All carbs, fats and proteins are all converted to glucose.

            Chronically high blood glucose levels are what leads to "insulin resistance" and then Type 2 Diabetes (or Diabeetus. may peace be upon him). Distance runners who eat a carb heavy diet all their lives or body builders who eat more carbs than fat still end up with liver issues, diabetes and have heart attacks as a result of chronically high blood glucose levels.

            There is a great deal of individuality in our ability to process carbs. A poor and decreasing ability is what is now called "metabolic syndrome"

            A simple and kinda cool gauge of where you're at, is "the cracker test".
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            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

            Rochard

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            • JFK
              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
              • Jan 2002
              • 67373

              #21
              Originally posted by TheSquealer
              Not eating like an asshole reverses type 2 diabetes. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people?

              Stop eating sugars and grains and there is no type 2 diabetes.

              This is very basic nutrition 101 stuff.

              Jesus... "a pill...".
              and look at this ........

              "Possible side effects include hernias, infection, blood clots, ulcers, and even death."

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              • TheSquealer
                Mayor of Thneedville
                • Oct 2004
                • 26172

                #22
                Originally posted by JFK
                and look at this ........

                "Possible side effects include hernias, infection, blood clots, ulcers, and even death."

                I think it's clear that I am the exact opposite of a conspiracy theorist. But when you look at the extent to which food lobbyist have influenced policy right down to dietary recommendations, its completely insane. I am cool with Left/Right politicians and everyone having their opinions, but this issue makes me want to watch them all burn.

                Senator McGovern and Ansel Keys and groups backed by Pepsi and Coke and sugar producers and farmers have killed 10s of millions of people with the completely retarded idea that THE very staple of our diet for a couple million years - fat, is bad.

                A really great thing to read up on is Timothy Noakes and his fight with the South African government - where a diet itself was actually put on trial. They really brought to the light the extent to which special interests have influenced dietary recommendations backed by studies funded indirectly by companies like Coke.

                A diet on trial. A nations recommended dietary guidelines and those of the West also put on trial. A pretty spectacular event... where they demonstrated that our dietary guidelines are completely wrong and are killing people wholesale,... which got no real media attention at all.
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                Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                Rochard

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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #23
                  Originally posted by GFED
                  Just a guess since I never intaked a lot of sugar and still had really high levels. My mother was the type that would only let me eat Chinese desserts because Americans use too much sugar. I actually prefer a Chinese cake over an American one. She once bought a package of Oreos from the market and ended up scraping the filling out of each one and put them back in the package.

                  After changing my diet and walking 3-4 times a day it's been under control. It could be just the exercise. I owe a lot to my dog.
                  I owe a lot to my dog too!

                  Also, those foods you listed, potatoes, pasta, are starchy complex carbs. that means they are broken down into sugars in two distinct digestive processes. each step being a sugar.

                  that would explain your high glucose readings at that time.

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                  • bronco67
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 29032

                    #24
                    You know what else can reduce the beetus? Not being a glutonous fat fuck.

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #25
                      Originally posted by bronco67
                      You know what else can reduce the beetus? Not being a glutonous fat fuck.
                      it's important to be specific here, you're referring primarily to type 2 diabetes. As a type 1 I get a lot of people saying this sort of thing to me, but it doesn't apply. Besides the fact I'm not a glutonous fat guy.

                      Type 1 is an auto-immune disease. type 2 is a lifestyle disease.

                      While I can control my glucose #s with what i eat quite a bit, I'll always have to inject insulin.

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                      • HairyChick
                        Slowly dying
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3091

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bladewire
                        You were 600 pounds? How long for you to lose all that weight?
                        OMG no, I wasn't 600 lbs. it’s a tv show! People over 600 lbs have gastric bypass and you see their lifestyle, loss, gain, etc.

                        I lost about eighty lbs with about thirty more to go.
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                        • HairyChick
                          Slowly dying
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3091

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                          I owe a lot to my dog too!

                          Also, those foods you listed, potatoes, pasta, are starchy complex carbs. that means they are broken down into sugars in two distinct digestive processes. each step being a sugar.

                          that would explain your high glucose readings at that time.
                          Yep. Whole wheat pasta is better and tastes really good. White bread is poison as are most white foods. Rice, white flour, sugar, white potatoes... all carbs turning to sugar.

                          If you eat white potatoes with fat (butter, sour cream) it counteracts the carb/sugar effect and won’t raise your sugar. I forget which diet doctor taught me that.

                          Sweet potatoes have less starch but still raise your sugar.
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                          • GFED
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 8121

                            #28
                            Originally posted by PamWinterReturns
                            Yep. Whole wheat pasta is better and tastes really good. White bread is poison as are most white foods. Rice, white flour, sugar, white potatoes... all carbs turning to sugar.

                            If you eat white potatoes with fat (butter, sour cream) it counteracts the carb/sugar effect and won’t raise your sugar. I forget which diet doctor taught me that.

                            Sweet potatoes have less starch but still raise your sugar.
                            I've tried eating whole wheat bread and pasta and brown rice, etc. I can chew it but I need water to wash it down. I can deal with vegetables better.
                            https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26172

                              #29
                              Originally posted by PamWinterReturns
                              Yep. Whole wheat pasta is better and tastes really good. White bread is poison as are most white foods. Rice, white flour, sugar, white potatoes... all carbs turning to sugar.
                              You seem to really understand little about diet and nutrition.

                              You'r beloved whole grain bread, with the big "heart healthy: logo on it is no different than eating raw white table sugar. In fact, in almost every case, it will get into your blood as glucose faster than white table sugar. But don't let facts get in the way of a feel good narrative.

                              Originally posted by PamWinterReturns
                              If you eat white potatoes with fat (butter, sour cream) it counteracts the carb/sugar effect and won’t raise your sugar. I forget which diet doctor taught me that.
                              yep. if you double the calories of the potato by adding 100% more calories in fat, it will slow carbohydrate metabolism.

                              Good news, we know why you're overweight
                              Bad news, you rationalize eating horribly.

                              Pro Tip/Newsflash: Doctors don't study nutrition. And doctors have been passing out bad dietary advice (from the American Heart Assn, Diabetes Assn etc) since the 60s which have been the very cause of the obesity problem in the Western world.

                              Sweet potatoes have less starch but still raise your sugar.
                              Uhm.... no. They are similar to white potatoes in carbohydrates but more fiber slows their metabolism and thus, htey are lower on the glycemic index than white potatoes which is why athletes eat them.
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #30
                                Originally posted by PamWinterReturns

                                If you eat white potatoes with fat (butter, sour cream) it counteracts the carb/sugar effect and won’t raise your sugar. I forget which diet doctor taught me that.
                                That doc is simply very wrong.

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