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Old 04-02-2003, 02:23 PM   #1
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have you ever been fucked by paypal?

If you have been fucked by paypal you should use this new service called stormpay . Its a great service and they take all kinds of shady traffic.
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Old 04-02-2003, 02:31 PM   #2
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is this something like spam or ?...
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who is stormpay ? how reliable and secure are they ?
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Stormpay? Why dont you join probono pay! Who the hell are they and why would I even want to give a MLM payment scheme my banking information?
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Old 04-02-2003, 02:44 PM   #7
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Paypal is the best. There is nothing better than paypal and i never heard of anybody complaining about them.
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paypal have fucked me on numerous occasions, I'd say overall they've taken about $3000 out of my account without my permission, right now my balance is negative because they just took another $250 out a few days ago. I'm using nochex and thinking about stormpay aswell but they look a bit dodgy.

But Paypal is how most peeps want to pay so I guess I have to keep using them.

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whats wrong with being fucked? Lat time I was fucked it felt pretty good
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:32 PM   #11
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paypal has fucked me over soo dam hard. I will never use them ever again and i have been using storm pay ever since.
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:37 PM   #12
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I don't understand why people keep a balance in paypal. Do you really need the interest they give you for your balance?

I would always transfer my paypal back to my bank account. Then when you need to pay someone you can do an instant transfer or just use a credit card.

If you don't trust them but have to use them...don't let them get their hands on your short hairs.
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:38 PM   #13
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Of all the 2 years I've been with PayPal, I haven't come across any trouble.
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You must have missed the last discussion about storm pay we had here. The general consensus was that storm pay is a piece of shit. Poorly planned and poorly executed.
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who is stormpay ? how reliable and secure are they ?
The only feedback on them is on the threads over at PayPalsucks.com, etc.
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paypal have fucked me on numerous occasions, I'd say overall they've taken about $3000 out of my account without my permission, right now my balance is negative because they just took another $250 out a few days ago. I'm using nochex and thinking about stormpay aswell but they look a bit dodgy.

But Paypal is how most peeps want to pay so I guess I have to keep using them.
I used to have a game called Motor City Online (racing game). When you won a race, you won fake cash in the game that you use to buy/modify cars to win even more races.

Well i had written a program to run the races without me even by my pc! Overnight i could rack up over $1 mil in game cash.

Id then sell it on ebay for about $100 per mil. Some people actually still do it even though the game economy has dropped:
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Anyhow, id make like $400 a day or so doing this! I was really rolling it in for a long time.

One day one of my biggest customers charged back like 12 purchases, totalling like $1,200 or something.

Being that i had no tracking info or proof of delivery, paypal did not protect me and i lost the cash.

To this day i am still negative $750 or something. I refuse to fill the account simply because of principal. I was a respected seller with over 4k transactions and no disputes, yet they still wouldnt protect me ... FUCK THEM!!!
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wonder if i should go back into biz doing this via epassporte, lol
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It's good and well saying stick with Paypal because that's what people want to accept. But after May 12th you won't be able to use them. So to those of you who are still using Paypal, what are you gonna do?
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Paypal is the best. There is nothing better than paypal and i never heard of anybody complaining about them.

let me be the first for you then...

they're holding a few K ransom on me for reasons that they can't seem to relate with any coherance...

they are requiring that I send in so much private information I'd feel less violated if someone were sticking a wrench up my ass...

I'm waiting for thier reply to setup the day I can get my lip-tatoo'd






PS: I felt the same way the rest of you did that love paypal until about 3 days ago...
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Old 05-01-2003, 06:37 AM   #23
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Paypal is the best. There is nothing better than paypal and i never heard of anybody complaining about them.
Ahhh, maybe peek in on http://www.paypalsucks.com and you might see some real horror stories.

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You must have missed the last discussion about storm pay we had here. The general consensus was that storm pay is a piece of shit. Poorly planned and poorly executed.
I love when people talk out of their mouth without facts. Meanwhile 95,000 webmaster worldwide are using it already.
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Stormpay? Why dont you join probono pay! Who the hell are they and why would I even want to give a MLM payment scheme my banking information?
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I love when people talk out of their mouth without facts. Meanwhile 95,000 webmaster worldwide are using it already.
StormPay is in fact poorly planned and executed. Also, probably 80,000 of the webmasters you are referring to are MLM folks since that is what stormpay was for originally.
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Have I ever been fucked by paypal????



humm, no but I fucked a penpal once!!!





And she was fucking smokin too!!!
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even if i consider joining stormpay, it will never happen under a spammer like you buddy.
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Its kind of funny hearing porn guys knocking MLM and Networking Marketing.

First off the porn industry is chump change in comparison.

Network marketing currently generates $83 Billion worldwide and $27 Billion of that in the US. Over 12 Million people are employed by companies in this industry.

Yes, there are some bad apples out there just like there are oodles of porn scammers. But you can't even compare the two size wise.

Whatever, to each his own . . . .
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1) 360.00 in pending referrals over a year old I will never see.

2) Their buyer/seller policy fucked me a couple of times.

Other than that, they have been ok. My overall rating of PayPal from 1-10.....

I rate them a 6
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Its kind of funny hearing porn guys knocking MLM and Networking Marketing.

First off the porn industry is chump change in comparison.

Network marketing currently generates $83 Billion worldwide and $27 Billion of that in the US. Over 12 Million people are employed by companies in this industry.

Yes, there are some bad apples out there just like there are oodles of porn scammers. But you can't even compare the two size wise.

Whatever, to each his own . . . .
I'm not knocking MLM. Simply stating that Stormpay was created with MLM in mind and not too long ago had enough holes in security to stay away from them. Maybe they fixed it.
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I'm not knocking MLM. Simply stating that Stormpay was created with MLM in mind and not too long ago had enough holes in security to stay away from them. Maybe they fixed it.
Its not a big deal. Just curious why so many people throwing spears at alternatives. Try things out. Maybe they won't work for you maybe they will. That's how I look at things.

I've seen a lot of deals over the years that people said sucked that I did well with. A lot of people protect their own interests in this biz and lambast everything else.

Anyway, forget StormPay and go to carrier pidgeons instead of PayPal. Maybe that'll work for you.
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Anyway, forget StormPay and go to carrier pidgeons instead of PayPal. Maybe that'll work for you.
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who is stormpay ? how reliable and secure are they ?

stormpay is first april joke, I wont say that if you use them, they will steal you $10.

they have several funding option, which is attractive for person that is looking for e-payment sol.

"Variety of Funding Options: StormPay offers a variety of funding options, such as, by credit card, check (cheque), bullion systems (e-Gold, etc.), online payment systems and much more! Several of these options allow you to fund your account instantly! "


why would you trust someone who is afraid to post his phone number and fax on contact us page, if you check contact info on stormpay.com they use pobox in 3rd world country

these 2 companies have high reputation if you are looking for e-payment solutiuon.
neteller.com
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StormPay has close to 95,000 affiliates already"
Hahahaha, created on 08-14-2002, I doubt that stormpay has more then 200 active users! 95,000 affiliate and they use virtual hosting at interland, who are you trying to fool.

better tell how you are affiliated with stormpay?

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We were with Paypal for 15 months and up until last week had absolutely no problems with them.

We had two Charge Backs in that time, one due to a client who had changed their mind, the other a guy who had his wallet stolen. Both times our account was suspended until they checked us over.

Yes they required information to clear us again, some of it was just verification of what they already had. But unless it escaped TheJimmy they are sending you money which is not theirs, so maybe they want to find out who you are. The info I had to send them was far from personal it was business info.

Usually they just ask for the bank account or credit card you have registered with them. But I feel as CC Processors they have every right to find out who they are giving money to. Address, Bank, Social Security Card, Passport all fine for them to see, IMHO.

Last week they stopped processing for us and stopped the two bank transfers that were going through. Maybe they thought with May 12 coming so soon it would be better for them to be holding a few thousand of our money to safeguard against charge backs. As a businessman I do not blame them.

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stormpay is first april joke, I wont say that if you use them, they will steal you $10.

they have several funding option, which is attractive for person that is looking for e-payment sol.

"Variety of Funding Options: StormPay offers a variety of funding options, such as, by credit card, check (cheque), bullion systems (e-Gold, etc.), online payment systems and much more! Several of these options allow you to fund your account instantly! "


why would you trust someone who is afraid to post his phone number and fax on contact us page, if you check contact info on stormpay.com they use pobox in 3rd world country

these 2 companies have high reputation if you are looking for e-payment solutiuon.
neteller.com
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StormPay has close to 95,000 affiliates already"
Hahahaha, created on 08-14-2002, I doubt that stormpay has more then 200 active users! 95,000 affiliate and they use virtual hosting at interland, who are you trying to fool.

better tell how you are affiliated with stormpay?
It doesn't matter to me who you use. You obviously aren't too high up the ladder in the business world if you are knocking the use of international corporations.

Why don't you learn how to speak English properly also before you post statements without any factual basis.

Stick with what you're doing and I wish you the best of luck. I prefer full diversification for myself and every payment option possible for my customers.
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why would you trust someone who is afraid to post his phone number and fax on contact us page, if you check contact info on stormpay.com they use pobox in 3rd world country
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEND THEIR MONEY THROUGH A COMPANY OPERATING LIKE THIS DESERVES TO BE ROBBED.

Not saying Stormpay will, just that this is not the approach I want from a CC processor.
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Old 05-01-2003, 09:58 AM   #42
assistant27
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
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We can talk in Deutch or English, but based on your business intl corp. geek thinking, you probally only speak English.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...tormpay%2Bscam

I have already use e-payment intl corps for payments
and I myself will never use stormpay and dont recommend it to anyone!



lets debate crime mind.

why would someone who is trying to run long-term business, hide phone numbers, hide fax numbers, use po boxes in 3rd world countries and run entire business on tight line between what is legal and ilegal.

Mr.Stormay is just trying to get as much victims as possible and when there will be enough of $ located in his system, he will run for life.
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