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06-05-2018, 02:05 PM

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it took me a bit to process that article, it seems it hinges on the following:

unfortunately, there is no evidence to support these assertions.

I'm a little busy but I'll see what I can find for you. However, that is not point I'd like to stick with you at this time. The media (and this board) like to dissect into tiny pieces and ignore the larger picture.

WHY did the head of the NSA go to President-elect Trump after the election? What did he have to tell them? This thought doesn't hinge on anything at all - it requires you to wonder - what was he doing there? What did the guy who hoovers up ALL the information in the world have to tell the incoming President before he even took office?
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06-05-2018, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

it took me a bit to process that article, it seems it hinges on the following:

unfortunately, there is no evidence to support these assertions.

This is what began Mike Rogers' inquiry

Declassified memos show FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans with private parties
https://www.circa.com/story/2017/05/...rivate-parties

The full memo here

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/...r_Apr_2017.pdf

Fusion GPS was one of those 3rd parties.

This memo is because of what they were doing. It is DIRECTLY related to all of this. They continued on even after the court told them what they were doing was illegal which is what led to Rogers cutting off all access.. Once he did this they began to use the Ohr's to obtain the information via the State Dept. Nellie Ohr was hired on at Fusion and the information was given to her by Bruce who worked at the State Department. Rogers has testified to all of this before Congress.

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06-05-2018, 03:57 PM

before we move on, you'll need to sort out why trump does not declassify the carter page FISA warrant and checkmate this whole mf.
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06-05-2018, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

before we move on, you'll need to sort out why trump does not declassify the carter page FISA warrant and checkmate this whole mf.

Trump is letting them do their investigations while playing laser pointer with liberal cats. The FISA warrant is only 1 small piece.. Truth be told Congress isn't even sure what they have seen is what was actually presented to the court.. At this point the court has refused to provide their actual application copy to confirm both sides have the same thing.

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06-05-2018, 04:27 PM

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Trump is letting them do their investigations while playing laser pointer with liberal cats. The FISA warrant is only 1 small piece.. Truth be told the Congress isn't even sure what they have seen is what was actually presented to the court.. At this point the court has refused to provide their actual application copy to confirm both sides have the same thing.

except for the fact that the conspiracy was for hilary to win.

so wht you are claiming is that trump knew about the conspiracy to derail his campaign via dirt yet not only did team hilary NOT spill the dirt, trump did NOT spill the dirt on hilary digging up the dirt and backburnered that dirt on hilary only to use it to play laser AFTER the NYT revealed the Halper informant story.

you bring up more questions than answers.

not saying politics isn't ugly and all that, but you're not providing any reason to believe spygate isn't anything more than an opportunity seen by trump based on the Halper story.

on top of it all, trump is sitting on the bombshell that would blow the whole conspiracy wide open but instead of firing it like a nuclear powered laser gun he's playing taunt Americans with it, because that's fun.

come on. I mean reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllllly. I need 2 monocles and more tea for that fancy shit.
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06-05-2018, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

except for the fact that the conspiracy was for hilary to win.

so wht you are claiming is that trump knew about the conspiracy to derail his campaign via dirt yet not only did team hilary NOT spill the dirt, trump did NOT spill the dirt on hilary digging up the dirt and backburnered that dirt on hilary only to use it to play laser AFTER the NYT revealed the Halper informant story.

you bring up more questions than answers.

not saying politics isn't ugly and all that, but you're not providing any reason to believe spygate isn't anything more than an opportunity seen by trump based on the Halper story.

on top of it all, trump is sitting on the bombshell that would blow the whole conspiracy wide open but instead of firing it like a nuclear powered laser gun he's playing taunt Americans with it, because that's fun.

come on. I mean reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllllly. I need 2 monocles and more tea for that fancy shit.

Once again, he didn't find out until AFTER the election when Rogers made the trip to NY to inform him...

If Trump didn't let the investigations play out then no one would believe it.... McCabe? If he was fired by Trump rather than his peers because of the investigation playing out?

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06-05-2018, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by onwebcam

Once again, he didn't find out until AFTER the election when Rogers made the trip to NY to inform him...

If Trump didn't let the investigations play out then no one would believe it.... McCabe? If he was fired by Trump rather than his peers because of the investigation playing out?

unfortunately that premise would require Obama to have sought the FISA warrants. As I pointed out earlier, there is no evidence he did.

again, spygate is just a legal maneuver that tried to capitalize on the Halper story, which even FOX news states is baloney.
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06-05-2018, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by dyna mo

unfortunately that premise would require Obama to have sought the FISA warrants. As I pointed out earlier, there is no evidence he did.

again, spygate is just a legal maneuver that tried to capitalize on the Halper story, which even FOX news states is baloney.

Halper story is very real. No one is saying it's baloney. In fact they've all but admitted it. And if you think Obama didn't know about all of this you're in for a mind blowing surprise... Remember Page and Strzok texts.. "The White House is running this." "Obama wants to know everything"

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06-05-2018, 05:55 PM

of course halper was an informant, they use informants all the time, that's not a story, at all.

I never stated what I think about obama. what i stated was spygate conspiracy theorists have not shown that the FISA warrants were sought by obama. that's just one problem with the spygate ct.
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06-05-2018, 06:21 PM

another big problem with spygate-

why didn't the FBI also target trump himself and at least trump jr? why only flynn, manafort, page, and papadopolous? they nefariously spied on just them as per Obama orders?

unlikely.
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06-05-2018, 06:52 PM

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06-05-2018, 07:08 PM

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To paraphrase: "If the majority of Americans believe a lie, it is still a lie."

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06-05-2018, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by TheSquealer

I'm not closed to it. I'm not currently buying into spygate but I'm still open to something along the lines of it. But as it currently stands, I find it a theory needing a lot more facts.
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06-06-2018, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by dyna mo

I'm not closed to it. I'm not currently buying into spygate but I'm still open to something along the lines of it. But as it currently stands, I find it a theory needing a lot more facts.

It is extremely complicated, involving multiple countries and agencies. If you said you bought it already after little to no investigation on your part, you'd be like a conspiracy theorist who believes the first thing he reads. It speaks to your intelligence that you don't believe it right away.

For now - why did Admiral Mike Rogers (head of the NSA for the Obama admin) go see President-elect Trump right after the election? Why did they move out of Trump Tower the next day?
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