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oppoten 05-29-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22277837)
The last groups I saw convicted of this were Eastern European not Muslim.

Narrative malfunction. 90% of the gromming gang convictions in the UK are Muslims.

Here's the stream for those who don't have kikebook (probably no-one on GFY except me). Tommy mentions the statistics @ 16:55


mineistaken 05-29-2018 12:54 PM

Free patriot, jail rapists!

dyna mo 05-29-2018 12:57 PM

I'm outraged!

harrumph.

EddyTheDog 05-29-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22278118)
Again, this is not about whether someone likes the guy or not. I may or may not share your 100 pct. negative sentiment, but that's completely irrelevant.

He may have skeletons in the closet or he may not be everybody's cup of tea, but to put him in jail in an obscure and undercover trial for merely publicizing issues no politician or media ever dares to touch is preposterous.

He was tried and convicted of a crime - As has been mentioned on here many times - You can't pick and choose what laws you want to obey...

Cherry7 05-29-2018 02:11 PM

Typical GFYers defending a thug and a Nazi.

A guy who makes false statements to fit his sick racist vision of the world.

Muslims commit less crime than non Muslims.

You would be much safer discussing politics with a Muslim than with "Tommy fascist Robinson" who was sentenced to 12 weeks for headbutting a fellow EDL Nazi member.

CarlosTheGaucho 05-29-2018 02:20 PM

Ok went through the archive of the live streamed video there's no evidence of any interference with the court proceeding. Zero.

They say they're arresting him for a 'breach of peace'.

The weakest attempt at putting somebody in jail under extremely dubious circumnstances, likely for purely political reasons and a very poor job covering it. This won't go away easily.

EddyTheDog 05-29-2018 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22278206)
Ok went through the archive of the live streamed video there's absolutely no evidence of any interference with the court proceeding. Zero.

They say they're arresting him for a 'breach of peace'.

The weakest attempt at putting somebody in jail under extremely dubious circumnstances, likely for purely political reasons and a very poor job covering it. This won't go away easily.

He was warned that his presence would cause a 'A Breach Of The Peace' - He chose to do it anyway - He has been tried and convicted of a crime - He fucked up - That's the law in the UK - He knew it better than anyone...

RazorSharpe 05-29-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22278206)
Ok went through the archive of the live streamed video there's no evidence of any interference with the court proceeding. Zero.

They say they're arresting him for a 'breach of peace'.

The weakest attempt at putting somebody in jail under extremely dubious circumnstances, likely for purely political reasons and a very poor job covering it. This won't go away easily.

You can ask for people to put their feelings about him aside all you like, but unfortunately, that only works in a perfect world, and this isn't a perfect world where we can all easily compartmentalise.

But let's forget that for a minute. He was already on a suspended sentence for doing the same thing last year. You have to consider that maybe, just maybe, you're going to get knicked for it. And he did. You making the UK government out to be some sort of gestapo operation because YOU think a serial offender has been unfairly charged is ludicrous.

You're claiming he was jailed because he publicised events that no one will touch. No one was reporting on it because of a media blackout. The media blackout was in place to preserve the integrity of the trial.

dyna mo 05-29-2018 02:49 PM

I'm not following how the media blackout preserved the integrity of the trial and if it did, does that make it ok? Save a few bucks?

Sly 05-29-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22278224)
I'm not following how the media blackout preserved the integrity of the trial and if it did, does that make it ok? Save a few bucks?

I'm confused about that as well.

Let's just say for example sake that this Tommy is a total piece of shit. How does that explain the media blackout? The media blackout is completely over my head. I do not see any justification for it whatsoever.

You want to blackout this rape grooming gang trial? Okay, that seems off to me as well, but okay I'll extend a little leniency. You want to blackout Tommy's trial, or lack thereof, and any story about Tommy at all? Not following.

Scott McD 05-29-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 22278202)
Typical GFYers defending a thug and a Nazi.

Typical idiot defending pedos...

dyna mo 05-29-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 22278228)
I'm confused about that as well.

Let's just say for example sake that this Tommy is a total piece of shit. How does that explain the media blackout? The media blackout is completely over my head. I do not see any justification for it whatsoever.

You want to blackout this rape grooming gang trial? Okay, that seems off to me as well, but okay I'll extend a little leniency. You want to blackout Tommy's trial, or lack thereof, and any story about Tommy at all? Not following.

not only that but it's a massive fail. talk about backfire. wow.

xClips Jim 05-29-2018 03:36 PM

The writing has been on the wall in the UK for some time now. Let's see if the people can learn from it.

Forget "versions" of the story designed to make you choose sides - those are distractions.

What happened and continues to happen? That is what is important.

RazorSharpe 05-29-2018 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 22278228)
I'm confused about that as well.

Let's just say for example sake that this Tommy is a total piece of shit. How does that explain the media blackout? The media blackout is completely over my head. I do not see any justification for it whatsoever.

You want to blackout this rape grooming gang trial? Okay, that seems off to me as well, but okay I'll extend a little leniency. You want to blackout Tommy's trial, or lack thereof, and any story about Tommy at all? Not following.

No idea why Tommy's trial had a media ban. I was referring to the media ban on the trial for the other sick fucks.

SleepWalker 05-29-2018 04:21 PM

Here’s how media works


CarlosTheGaucho 05-30-2018 03:41 AM

Here's the actual interview I've been referring to, saw longer time ago, it's from February 2016 from The Rubin Report:



Some of the early talking points:

- are you "anti Muslim"..
etc.

The interview itself starts at 4:00

in case anyone would be intrigued what this is all about and has an option to listen to this while working etc. feel free to make a mind on your own. There are some solid points he makes.

Of course you may need to overcome the mental block of listening to someone who the mass media non stop label as "far right".

celandina 05-30-2018 09:37 AM

All of this is just a sign of the times... Many Caribbean emigrants invited to England to help rebuilding after the war and their descendants are now being deported and ISIS fighters coming back to UK are getting a social support, so why would not the idiots and the "aparatchicks" jail a guy who speaks the truth....go figure !

...the end of the civilisation as we know it is getting nearer.. :2 cents:

... but do not forget to talk about Stormy, Roseanne, Russian meddling...while the Rome burns..;)

MaDalton 05-30-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22278497)
Of course you may need to overcome the mental block of listening to someone who the mass media non stop label as "far right".

so what do you consider a reputable trustworthy source? I'm curious...

Cherry7 05-31-2018 11:33 AM

First up, there was the so-called media blackout. Robinson’s supporters screamed about a “media blackout” and “secret courts”. There was indeed a temporary reporting restriction in place over his imprisonment.

But this was to protect the trial Robinson was live streaming from, not to hush up the fact of his arrest. As one lawyer pointed out, contempt laws exist to ensure defendants have fair trials.

So let’s be clear. This is not an attack on free speech. This is not an attack on freedom of the press. Tommy Robinson is not a martyr. And there are no grand conspiracies regarding his imprisonment.

EddyTheDog 05-31-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 22279266)
First up, there was the so-called media blackout. Robinson’s supporters screamed about a “media blackout” and “secret courts”. There was indeed a temporary reporting restriction in place over his imprisonment.

But this was to protect the trial Robinson was live streaming from, not to hush up the fact of his arrest. As one lawyer pointed out, contempt laws exist to ensure defendants have fair trials.

So let’s be clear. This is not an attack on free speech. This is not an attack on freedom of the press. Tommy Robinson is not a martyr. And there are no grand conspiracies regarding his imprisonment.

:thumbsup:2 cents::2 cents:...

Mr Pheer 05-31-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 22279266)
First up, there was the so-called media blackout. Robinson’s supporters screamed about a “media blackout” and “secret courts”. There was indeed a temporary reporting restriction in place over his imprisonment.

But this was to protect the trial Robinson was live streaming from, not to hush up the fact of his arrest. As one lawyer pointed out, contempt laws exist to ensure defendants have fair trials.

So let’s be clear. This is not an attack on free speech. This is not an attack on freedom of the press. Tommy Robinson is not a martyr. And there are no grand conspiracies regarding his imprisonment.

Do you also deny that the media in the UK is turning a blind eye to massive rape problem?

Tasty1 05-31-2018 06:57 PM

I am glad here people are still able to film on a public road.
Wonder how long that will last, a black out seem to work for 'the system'.
It worked about 10 years to look the other way. Just like they did with the pedo priest.

CarlosTheGaucho 06-03-2018 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22278734)
so what do you consider a reputable trustworthy source? I'm curious...

I can't think of any... none really. Local media are a disaster, international as well most of the time. I prefer to read books instead or watch / listen to whoever is in question directly, media merely act as a filter, to remove or spin the information that wouldn't suit their narrative.

What one may find shocking though is I don't see that something like Breitbart would be in any way worse or more biased than say NYT or Washington Post.

Only one side is presented with all those, some issues are never discussed or spoken about. One sided, emotionally appealing, often semi-fake narratives presented non stop.

The power of Breitbart is that most of the other media make it way too easy for them, as they are blind and deaf to anything politically incorrect, and do not report reality.

Labeling is present in all these PC media (everyone not in our team is immediately a "populist" "far right" etc.) - this is absolutely reminiscent of the old socialist censorship and journalism btw. as everybody from the other side of the barricade was "imperialist" "diversant" etc. There are hit pieces, character assassinations, straight up lies.

The McCarthy era returned except we don't hunt for communists but for all kinds of "-ists" and anybody who prefers their own culture as opposed to surrendering it to the mandated "diversity" is immediately labeled as "far-right".

And anytime I quote something from a news source I have to now state something like "if the reported is true" because they were all caught, if not straight up lying, then fabricating and spinning facts, and routinely using all kinds of "expert opinions" to fill the rest of the space in order to suit their narrative.


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