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Old 04-30-2003, 07:56 PM   #1
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have sent numerous emails and hate to post here but if anyone else has any ideas. I have had close to $300 in rebills DUE me from College Fuckfest since January 16 2003 but have not been paid for ANY of them. Have emailed the "contact" address for College Fuckfest and even Website Billing. Last payment I received was March 5th, 2003 and that was for Jan 1-Jan 15, 2003. Thanks in advance
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Old 04-30-2003, 07:57 PM   #2
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did you completely miss all the WSB drama?
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Old 04-30-2003, 07:58 PM   #4
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it was WSB and I did probably miss most of the WSB drama. So basically CollegeFuckfest is not paying people who were with them in the beginning using WSB (had no choice)????
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Old 04-30-2003, 07:59 PM   #5
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:00 PM   #6
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it was WSB and I did probably miss most of the WSB drama. So basically CollegeFuckfest is not paying people who were with them in the beginning using WSB (had no choice)????
Last I heard, WSB is only spitting out payments slowly.

And CFF instructed to WSB to pay it's affiliates before they get paid.

So next time you try to trash someone, do your research.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:01 PM   #7
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wonder why the hell there are people still promoting the program when they haven't even paid those of us who started in the beginning. Pretty fucked up. Especially since you can sign up and promote them STILL and even use WSB or CCBill... great Sponsor
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:03 PM   #8
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not "trashing someone". Asked a question. Unlike alot of people I don't hang out on the boards as I am a little too busy working my sites. But I am disappointed at the NUMEROUS emails I have sent to College Fuckfest with NO REPLY. If they had just let me know what YOU just told me I wouldn't even need to post here. I am cool with your reply.
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not "trashing someone". Asked a question. Unlike alot of people I don't hang out on the boards as I am a little too busy working my sites. But I am disappointed at the NUMEROUS emails I have sent to College Fuckfest with NO REPLY. If they had just let me know what YOU just told me I wouldn't even need to post here. I am cool with your reply.
How about you apologize to CFF instead of making excuses?
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:06 PM   #10
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those guys run a good program, it's wsb that's got issues. use ccbill, you won't have any problems getting your checks.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:07 PM   #11
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those guys run a good program, it's wsb that's got issues. use ccbill, you won't have any problems getting your checks.
The problem is CCBill doesn't seem to be converting as well as WSB. Oh well.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:08 PM   #12
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How about CFF pay me for promoting their program for the last three months for FREE... how about CFF using good business sense and contacting or replying to their affiliates so they will know what is going on. Wow, you must be awesome if you can work for FREE. How about I just tell the IRS I can't pay them what I owe them because the guy who writes my checks is sick today. Lame excuses. Funny if they don't have the money to pay then perhaps they shouldn't be soliciting new affiliates.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:09 PM   #13
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300 bux? Fuck dude, you ain't NEVER gonna get paid.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:11 PM   #14
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How about CFF pay me for promoting their program for the last three months for FREE... how about CFF using good business sense and contacting or replying to their affiliates so they will know what is going on. Wow, you must be awesome if you can work for FREE. How about I just tell the IRS I can't pay them what I owe them because the guy who writes my checks is sick today. Lame excuses. Funny if they don't have the money to pay then perhaps they shouldn't be soliciting new affiliates.
Dude, do you understand how their affiliate program works?
They don't pay you, WSB does. WSB doesn't have cash. They haven't paid CFF and they haven't paid hundreds of others. WSB is sending checks out as they get the cash. You're problem is with WSB, not with CFF.

Why are they still soliciting new affiliates? Because ccBill is still sending out payments. Switch over your WSB links to ccBill links.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:13 PM   #15
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300 bux? Fuck dude, you ain't NEVER gonna get paid.
your'e probably right - as for using ccbill - that was NOT an option when CFF first started it's affiliate program. Otherwise I would have. Perhaps I don't know all the financial logistics but if CFF is continuing to get paid perhaps they should pay off their outstanding debts to affiliates. A similar thing happened to Lightspeed a while back (900# issue) but THEY paid EVERYONE and made good on their promises. See in the business world this is called contract fullfillment.
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The problem is CCBill doesn't seem to be converting as well as WSB. Oh well.
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Dude, do you understand how their affiliate program works?
They don't pay you, WSB does. WSB doesn't have cash. They haven't paid CFF and they haven't paid hundreds of others. WSB is sending checks out as they get the cash. You're problem is with WSB, not with CFF.

Why are they still soliciting new affiliates? Because ccBill is still sending out payments. Switch over your WSB links to ccBill links.
I understand that..and switching New links is a good idea. However ALL my rebills can't switch. You would think they would try to make good on the old affiliates however.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:17 PM   #18
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:17 PM   #19
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your'e probably right - as for using ccbill - that was NOT an option when CFF first started it's affiliate program. Otherwise I would have. Perhaps I don't know all the financial logistics but if CFF is continuing to get paid perhaps they should pay off their outstanding debts to affiliates. A similar thing happened to Lightspeed a while back (900# issue) but THEY paid EVERYONE and made good on their promises. See in the business world this is called contract fullfillment.
Dude, did you miss the part where I said that CFF opted to forego their WSB payments so that their affiliates could get paid first? That means you'll get your cash from WSB before CFF gets their cash from WSB.

And with only $300 worth of rebills over 10 weeks, I don't think you're WSB's top priority for payour right now.

So get it through your thick skull:
THIS IS NOT CFF'S FAULT, IT'S WSB'S FAULT.
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have sent numerous emails and hate to post here but if anyone else has any ideas. I have had close to $300 in rebills DUE me from College Fuckfest since January 16 2003 but have not been paid for ANY of them. Have emailed the "contact" address for College Fuckfest and even Website Billing. Last payment I received was March 5th, 2003 and that was for Jan 1-Jan 15, 2003. Thanks in advance
WSB is/was one of our credit card processors. They have fucked up a lot of payments for our affiliates. We have opted not to be paid until ALL of our affiliates get paid first.

If the contact for our CFF emails is not being received then I apologize. I'll definitely tell him that you are trying to reach him. In the meantime also send your correspondence directly to me at [email protected]

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Old 04-30-2003, 08:34 PM   #23
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Dude, did you miss the part where I said that CFF opted to forego their WSB payments so that their affiliates could get paid first? That means you'll get your cash from WSB before CFF gets their cash from WSB.

And with only $300 worth of rebills over 10 weeks, I don't think you're WSB's top priority for payour right now.

So get it through your thick skull:
THIS IS NOT CFF'S FAULT, IT'S WSB'S FAULT.
DUDE did you miss the part where they are STILL responsible? They can take the money they are earning now and make GOOD on their debts to their older affiliates. Take a lesson from Lightspeed.
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Did you ever consider maybe CFF *DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY* to pay out to you?

If they are getting ZERO from WSB, and it's also a fairly new program when all that shit hit the fan.. I would doubt they could cover the spread so to speak.

I'm sure if they had the money in reserve somewhere, they would have paid in full for all current rebills up to date XYZ and said no more WSB.

Now, if the program owners start to go buy ferraris and shit, you'll have cause to bitch. Until then bitch at WSB.

For the lightspeed thing, that was stand up and the way to do biz. But, they also were an established program and it was probably less than a few percent of their gross they had to cover. CFF was brand new, and it was 100% of their gross... Hrm....

I think CFF should be held "liable" in the way that they shouldn't accept a dime until affiliates are paid, but to bring them down because they don't have a huge cash reserve for a PARTNERSHIP program is just downright insane.

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DUDE did you miss the part where they are STILL responsible? They can take the money they are earning now and make GOOD on their debts to their older affiliates. Take a lesson from Lightspeed.
Dude... are you mentally handicapped? Did you not understand the part about them not being paid by WSB?

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PAID BY WSB.

what language do you speak? i'll pay someone to translate the above sentence for you.
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How about you apologize to CFF instead of making excuses?
why should he apologize when they didn't reply to his emails?
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if CFF has the money to pay their employees, shoot new content for new sites then they sure as hell do have money to pay their affilliates what's owed to them for traffic.

Affilliates sign up to do business with a program NOT the third party processor. Third party processors do NOT run traffic programs, they do provide software to run a webmaster affilliate program and they do handle payouts. BUT the debt sits squarely with the company who solicited the traffic.
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How about you apologize to CFF instead of making excuses?
... I wouldn´t say he has to appologize to anyone, it was cff that picked wsb for billing, not the webmaster. in my opinion cff should go ahead and cover whatever is owned ... but that is just my opinion.
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... I wouldn´t say he has to appologize to anyone, it was cff that picked wsb for billing, not the webmaster. in my opinion cff should go ahead and cover whatever is owned ... but that is just my opinion.
If he was unhappy withe their processor choice, he didn't have to sign up.

No one put a gun to his head.
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... once again, he did not signup to websitbilling, he signed up to cff (and it wasn´t just him, there are a few hundreds more).

... cff has chosen to process through websitebilling in the first place. most webmasters don´t even know what processing and shit is, all they care about is their payment ... damn, is this so hard to understand ??
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look, I had my accoutn hijacked from wsb, and it took 3 weeks to get it back and then they stoped payments that were stolen,

so that means the money was not sucessfully stolen,

but wsb has yet to pay me that money, and CFF does not give a shit about my lossy 1000$, it my fault someone got my password,

but you know what, 15 programs, and only CFF and AFF were hijacked,

and AFF stoped payment on the check and sent me my money,

only wsb stiffed me, not only the money that was stolen but the money that was not stolen,

and CFF does not care and never followed up or took care of me, which is why I dont sell anything from them and I sugest people stay away from them and anything to do with wsb,

lol

I got 2 checks from WSB, 70$ and 70$, I guess whats left of my rebills,

PS WSB peeps who answer the phone, every last one, moronic and full of shit
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... I wouldn´t say he has to appologize to anyone, it was cff that picked wsb for billing, not the webmaster. in my opinion cff should go ahead and cover whatever is owned ... but that is just my opinion.
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