Why the North Korea summit is going off the rails, explained by an expert

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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #101
    robbie, you were offended by the thread and lashed out. you lost any credibility in this thread several posts ago.

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    • dyna mo
      just a fucking jerk
      • Dec 2008
      • 68184

      #102
      Originally posted by xClips Jim
      Right? I mean - does it seem logical that they are not acting in good faith? Reasonable that we would pull out of this because of some bellicose language? And that we respond to their language with "Our nukes are bigger than your nukes...?"

      I don't know the answer - my super secret private websites where all the real information is hidden away from prying eyes and nobody else can look (also known as - government and justice department websites) are not expounding on the national security strategy of the United States - in public.

      I can only wonder and ask questions. North Korea has done nothing different and is showing good faith, despite allegedly aggressive language. Is that enough, with all the good faith shown to cancel an important summit? To people that hate Trump, they will see it as confirmation of things they believe. To me, it is not a logical move - so I wonder what else is going on that we don't know.
      most of what's going on we don't know.

      That's why I think threads like this have value, the intent is to take a serious unbiased view and discuss it. The op article provided a pragmatic view of the timeline of events.

      One thing we do know now- the summit is postponed indefinitely.

      correction: trump says summit is canceled.

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      • pimpmaster9000
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2011
        • 26732

        #103
        Originally posted by dyna mo
        ruskie dick suckers give ruskie invaders a free pass. Add up all the invasions over time and dance, USA wouldn't be anywhere near the top. but but but viet nam. farmers. bombs. WAAH GFY amewicans...
        once you take away the ability of small countries to fight your invaders conventionally, the small countries will seek another way to keep your gangsters away...USIS has simply invested too much money in invasion apparatus and research for other smaller countries to keep up...also USIS is too dependent on war profits to ever quit invading...so the only logical solution is nukes or bacteria...

        you can now go back to playing dumb to what your country does, this changes nothing...sooner or later 1 country will make the bacteria/nukes and start selling...I hope this day comes as soon as possible
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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #104
          uhh, this thread proves I'm certainly not playing dumb to what's going on in the world.

          keep dancing ruskie dick sucker.

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          • Robbie
            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
            • Aug 2002
            • 20960

            #105
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            robbie, you were offended by the thread and lashed out. you lost any credibility in this thread several posts ago.
            I wasn't offended. And I don't think I have any "credibility" with any of the faceless nickname people on GFY anyway.
            Again...couldn't care less.

            By the way, I re-read what I wrote earlier and you are right. It did come across like I was insulting you.
            I didn't mean that at all. Sorry about that. The written word doesn't always convey meaning correctly. No offense was meant.
            -Robbie
            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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            • Rochard
              Jägermeister Test Pilot
              • Dec 2001
              • 75733

              #106
              Originally posted by crucifissio
              once you take away the ability of small countries to fight your invaders conventionally, the small countries will seek another way to keep your gangsters away...USIS has simply invested too much money in invasion apparatus and research for other smaller countries to keep up...also USIS is too dependent on war profits to ever quit invading...so the only logical solution is nukes or bacteria...

              you can now go back to playing dumb to what your country does, this changes nothing...sooner or later 1 country will make the bacteria/nukes and start selling...I hope this day comes as soon as possible
              No one has attacked North Korea in the past fifty years, so... They are pretty safe.

              Also, in the event of some kind of an attack the first thing they would do would be to strike out at their command and control facilities and their missiles.

              They shouldn't kid themselves here. It takes them days to launch a test missile. It would be taken out long before it could launch.
              Herschel Savage
              Brooklyn, NY

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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #107
                Originally posted by Robbie
                I wasn't offended. And I don't think I have any "credibility" with any of the faceless nickname people on GFY anyway.
                Again...couldn't care less.

                By the way, I re-read what I wrote earlier and you are right. It did come across like I was insulting you.
                I didn't mean that at all. Sorry about that. The written word doesn't always convey meaning correctly. No offense was meant.
                I appreciate that. Let's just call it a miscommunication and move on.

                I'm not here to argue at all, if i disagree on something I try to phrase it unoffensively. I do come across confident in my opinion, maybe too much so. I'm certainly not emotional about trump but there's a lot going on around him that I am interested in. I had high hopes for this deal, it wasn't about being right or wrong on GFY for me.

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                • crockett
                  in a van by the river
                  • May 2003
                  • 76818

                  #108
                  Nobody knew diplomacy could be so complicated
                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184

                    #109
                    Originally posted by crockett
                    Nobody knew diplomacy could be so complicated
                    trump sure isn't being trump in the letter. no bluster at all.

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                    • xClips Jim
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 845

                      #110
                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                      I'm certainly not emotional about trump but there's a lot going on around him that I am interested in. I had high hopes for this deal, it wasn't about being right or wrong on GFY for me.
                      Once you get used to the roller coaster the show gets pretty good. A lot of times you have that excitement build up as the coaster ratchets it's way to the top - click click click - and then you crest - and your hands go up in the air - WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! This is one of those times.

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                      • Bladewire
                        StraightBro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 56228

                        #111
                        ↑↑↑ Fake nic xClips Jim aka JohnnyClips aka JohnnyNight


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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #112
                          Originally posted by xClips Jim
                          Once you get used to the roller coaster the show gets pretty good. A lot of times you have that excitement build up as the coaster ratchets it's way to the top - click click click - and then you crest - and your hands go up in the air - WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! This is one of those times.
                          yes! except for the nuke part eh. although I'm not hitting the panic button yet on that. I'm pretty confident USA will never ever launch the first nuke again, and Un isn't going to do anything like that either. cooler heads prevail.

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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Robbie
                            I wasn't offended. And I don't think I have any "credibility" with any of the faceless nickname people on GFY anyway.
                            Again...couldn't care less.

                            By the way, I re-read what I wrote earlier and you are right. It did come across like I was insulting you.
                            I didn't mean that at all. Sorry about that. The written word doesn't always convey meaning correctly. No offense was meant.
                            Robbie, I've done the same with my posts here and see I came across offensively at times, I apologize. We're both Americans and want the same things in general.

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                            • Robbie
                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 20960

                              #114
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              I appreciate that. Let's just call it a miscommunication and move on.

                              I'm not here to argue at all, if i disagree on something I try to phrase it unoffensively. I do come across confident in my opinion, maybe too much so. I'm certainly not emotional about trump but there's a lot going on around him that I am interested in. I had high hopes for this deal, it wasn't about being right or wrong on GFY for me.
                              I was worried for a minute that you might "Trump" me and walk away from the table.

                              It's all good.
                              I should have re-read what I wrote and saw how cold it came across before I hit "submit"
                              -Robbie
                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                              • BaldBastard
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 16805

                                #115
                                Several ballistic missiles launches have been detected from North Korea, YOU HAVE 38 minutes.

                                https://edition.cnn.com/2018/7/24/no...rea/index.html

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                                • xClips Jim
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2017
                                  • 845

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                  yes! except for the nuke part eh. although I'm not hitting the panic button yet on that. I'm pretty confident USA will never ever launch the first nuke again, and Un isn't going to do anything like that either. cooler heads prevail.
                                  Well, sometimes the coaster flies off the tracks... Still, even that is more likely than a nuclear attack so I'm not afraid to get on the ride.

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56228

                                    #117







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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                      I was worried for a minute that you might "Trump" me and walk away from the table.

                                      It's all good.
                                      I should have re-read what I wrote and saw how cold it came across before I hit "submit"


                                      I read the art of the deal years ago, I remember a blurb in it about how trump talked about how he liked to get the guy across the table so riled up the sweat circles under his arms would touch.

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                                      • dyna mo
                                        just a fucking jerk
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 68184

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                        Several ballistic missiles launches have been detected from North Korea, YOU HAVE 38 minutes.

                                        https://edition.cnn.com/2018/7/24/no...rea/index.html
                                        I'd keep an eye out if I were you, no telling where those missiles fall out of the sky.

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                                        • pimpmaster9000
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Dec 2011
                                          • 26732

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          No one has attacked North Korea in the past fifty years, so... They are pretty safe.

                                          Also, in the event of some kind of an attack the first thing they would do would be to strike out at their command and control facilities and their missiles.

                                          They shouldn't kid themselves here. It takes them days to launch a test missile. It would be taken out long before it could launch.
                                          yes, adequate missile technology is still out of reach for weak and poor countries...this is why bacteria is better...all it takes is 1 sleeper agent with 1 vial in 1 random country...keeping up with USIS with conventional weapons is futile, invasions are becoming normal and sovereignty is just a meaningless word...unconventional warfare is the way to go...

                                          we live in the age of the internet and information can be passed on in seconds...freedom for small countries will come in a vial or in a missile or some other way...it is just a matter of time...I do not believe there will be much future for mankind but at least the small get to die standing on their feet because the strong would not leave them alone...
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                                          • Rochard
                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 75733

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                            Nobody knew diplomacy could be so complicated
                                            Trump had no idea.
                                            Herschel Savage
                                            Brooklyn, NY

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                                            • RedFred
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2016
                                              • 9782

                                              #122

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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                yes, adequate missile technology is still out of reach for weak and poor countries...this is why bacteria is better...all it takes is 1 sleeper agent with 1 vial in 1 random country...keeping up with USIS with conventional weapons is futile, invasions are becoming normal and sovereignty is just a meaningless word...unconventional warfare is the way to go...

                                                we live in the age of the internet and information can be passed on in seconds...freedom for small countries will come in a vial or in a missile or some other way...it is just a matter of time...I do not believe there will be much future for mankind but at least the small get to die standing on their feet because the strong would not leave them alone...
                                                regardless of whether or not you are your GFY persona, posting this reveals just how horrible a person you are.

                                                if you're not psychotic, you need to get a hold of yourself. If you are psychotic, none of this will make sense to you.

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                                                • dyna mo
                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 68184

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by RedFred
                                                  that's a good one really!

                                                  the whole thing is remarkable.

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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56228

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by RedFred


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                                                    • pimpmaster9000
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                      • 26732

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                      regardless of whether or not you are your GFY persona, posting this reveals just how horrible a person you are.

                                                      if you're not psychotic, you need to get a hold of yourself. If you are psychotic, none of this will make sense to you.

                                                      invader, I am sure you want to feel safe and keep invading but the rest of the world is not obligated to put up with your invader bullshit...I know this confuses your invader brain...you must be like "what?!?!?!? some country does not want to be invaded by USIS?!?!?!?!? WHY????? WHYYYYYYYYY?????"

                                                      look invader, its not up to me...USIS will not stop invading until somebody stops them...it will not be americans who do it because they give exactly 0 fucks...with your drone/robot bullshit coming there will be 0 chance to fight your invaders so what is left is what I wrote...nukes/bacteria/other nasty shit...

                                                      did you really think you would get to USIS the world for ever without any consequences? escalation is a bitch and you guys practically got down on your knees and begged for it
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                                                      • Robbie
                                                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 20960

                                                        #127
                                                        So today North Korea answered to Pres. Trump's canceling the summit.
                                                        North Korea's foreign ministry said this:
                                                        "We reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way, I would like to conclude that President Trump's statement on the North Korea-US summit is a decision that is not in line with the wishes of the who hope for the peace and stability of the Korean peninsula as well as the world."

                                                        The negotiations continue. Art Of The Deal.
                                                        -Robbie
                                                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                        • Bladewire
                                                          StraightBro
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 56228

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          So today North Korea answered to Pres. Trump's canceling the summit.
                                                          North Korea's foreign ministry said this:
                                                          "We reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way, I would like to conclude that President Trump's statement on the North Korea-US summit is a decision that is not in line with the wishes of the who hope for the peace and stability of the Korean peninsula as well as the world."

                                                          The negotiations continue. Art Of The Deal.
                                                          Moon has done everything, Trump has done nothing but cause drama and try to derail president Moons 11 months of negotiations with NK.


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                                                          • dyna mo
                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                            • 68184

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                                            So today North Korea answered to Pres. Trump's canceling the summit.
                                                            North Korea's foreign ministry said this:
                                                            "We reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way, I would like to conclude that President Trump's statement on the North Korea-US summit is a decision that is not in line with the wishes of the who hope for the peace and stability of the Korean peninsula as well as the world."

                                                            The negotiations continue. Art Of The Deal.
                                                            But in Trump's letter to Un prior to NK releasing that statement Trump claims Un changed his mind:

                                                            "If you change your mind having to do with this most important summit, please do not hesitate to call me or write."

                                                            I wonder which one is telling the truth.

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                                                            • dyna mo
                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 68184

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                              So today North Korea answered to Pres. Trump's canceling the summit.
                                                              North Korea's foreign ministry said this:
                                                              "We reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way, I would like to conclude that President Trump's statement on the North Korea-US summit is a decision that is not in line with the wishes of the who hope for the peace and stability of the Korean peninsula as well as the world."

                                                              The negotiations continue. Art Of The Deal.
                                                              someone should have had Pence read art of the deal because his threat to Un re: the libya model just a couple days ago is what upset Un and from what I've read, trump as well is not happy with Pence over it.

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                                                              • crockett
                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 76818

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by RedFred
                                                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                • BroadwayJoe69
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jun 2018
                                                                  • 340

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Looks like a lot of people were wrong. The summit did happen. Is this thread fake news?

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